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Aphantasia: ‘I can’t visualise my own children’ | Aphantasia: ‘I can’t visualise my own children’ |
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Imagine a horse. You can probably picture one in your head. | Imagine a horse. You can probably picture one in your head. |
But if you're one of the 2% of people who live with "aphantasia" then you'll see nothing. | |
You know what a horse is, you know it has got four legs, but you just can't visualise one. | You know what a horse is, you know it has got four legs, but you just can't visualise one. |
Aphantasia is a phenomenon which has only recently been defined by scientists. | Aphantasia is a phenomenon which has only recently been defined by scientists. |
Aphantasia: A life without mental images | Aphantasia: A life without mental images |
Many people with it don't have a clue that they are different to anyone else. | Many people with it don't have a clue that they are different to anyone else. |
When we discussed it on the Jeremy Vine Show on BBC Radio 2 a number of listeners came forward to tell us that we were describing their experience of life; that they had aphantasia. | When we discussed it on the Jeremy Vine Show on BBC Radio 2 a number of listeners came forward to tell us that we were describing their experience of life; that they had aphantasia. |
Adam Zeman, a professor of cognitive and behavioural neurology, coined the term aphantasia with his team at the University of Exeter. | Adam Zeman, a professor of cognitive and behavioural neurology, coined the term aphantasia with his team at the University of Exeter. |
He said: "It's a lack of the mind's eye. An inability to visualise. It's an intriguing variation in experience, rather than a problematic condition; it's not a disease." | He said: "It's a lack of the mind's eye. An inability to visualise. It's an intriguing variation in experience, rather than a problematic condition; it's not a disease." |
Aphantasia can have an impact on memory, because people are unable to visually recall moments in their life. | Aphantasia can have an impact on memory, because people are unable to visually recall moments in their life. |
Prof Zeman says that as many as one in 50 people have aphantasia. | Prof Zeman says that as many as one in 50 people have aphantasia. |
He says people either tend to have it or not - rather than experiencing it to different degrees of severity: "There is quite a big spread in the range of how well people visualise things. | He says people either tend to have it or not - rather than experiencing it to different degrees of severity: "There is quite a big spread in the range of how well people visualise things. |
"But anyone with aphantasia is way off the scale. So, in broad terms, most people without aphantasia can visualise quite vividly. But anyone who does have it cannot." | "But anyone with aphantasia is way off the scale. So, in broad terms, most people without aphantasia can visualise quite vividly. But anyone who does have it cannot." |
Some Radio 2 listeners were astonished to find their experience of life being described on national radio: | Some Radio 2 listeners were astonished to find their experience of life being described on national radio: |
Rosie Edge, 63, Broadstairs: | Rosie Edge, 63, Broadstairs: |
"Listening to the programme, I found myself hearing someone describe exactly what I experience. | "Listening to the programme, I found myself hearing someone describe exactly what I experience. |
"My husband's always told me it was weird. Until you actually verbalise it, you don't realise it's different. I have two grown-up sons. If I think of them I don't get a picture in my mind. | "My husband's always told me it was weird. Until you actually verbalise it, you don't realise it's different. I have two grown-up sons. If I think of them I don't get a picture in my mind. |
"The first time I ever thought about it was when I had a conversation with my husband when I was in my 50s. | "The first time I ever thought about it was when I had a conversation with my husband when I was in my 50s. |
"We were talking about relaxation techniques and he said, 'Picture being by the sea in Cornwall.'" I said, 'Well, I can describe it in words.' And he said, 'No - actually visualise it. You must have an image of it.'" | "We were talking about relaxation techniques and he said, 'Picture being by the sea in Cornwall.'" I said, 'Well, I can describe it in words.' And he said, 'No - actually visualise it. You must have an image of it.'" |
"But I didn't. It was a confusing conversation; we couldn't even really work out if we were discussing the same thing. He described the image he had in his mind and that was completely alien to me. | "But I didn't. It was a confusing conversation; we couldn't even really work out if we were discussing the same thing. He described the image he had in his mind and that was completely alien to me. |
"I have really poor recall of really important events in my life. I can't picture my wedding day but I can remember the emotional feeling." | "I have really poor recall of really important events in my life. I can't picture my wedding day but I can remember the emotional feeling." |
Paul Arvidson, 47, Taunton: | Paul Arvidson, 47, Taunton: |
"When I heard you describe this condition on the radio I nearly drove my van into a hedge. It's the first time I'd ever actually heard it described. | "When I heard you describe this condition on the radio I nearly drove my van into a hedge. It's the first time I'd ever actually heard it described. |
"I used to be a theatrical lighting designer. It's not that I don't know what things are, I just can't see them in my head. So I can perfectly well design the lighting for a show but I just need a lot of paper or a computer because I've got to physically write it all down. | "I used to be a theatrical lighting designer. It's not that I don't know what things are, I just can't see them in my head. So I can perfectly well design the lighting for a show but I just need a lot of paper or a computer because I've got to physically write it all down. |
"If somebody wants me to do some DIY and they describe what they're imagining, I can't do it without drawing it - or getting them to draw it. | "If somebody wants me to do some DIY and they describe what they're imagining, I can't do it without drawing it - or getting them to draw it. |
"About seven years ago I wrote a book called The Dark which is a science fiction story set on an alien planet entirely without light. | "About seven years ago I wrote a book called The Dark which is a science fiction story set on an alien planet entirely without light. |
"But it wasn't until I heard the programme that I realised… maybe that's what the book is all about! Perhaps the entire purpose of the book was a subconscious look inside my head." | "But it wasn't until I heard the programme that I realised… maybe that's what the book is all about! Perhaps the entire purpose of the book was a subconscious look inside my head." |
Hear Paul on the Jeremy Vine Show | Hear Paul on the Jeremy Vine Show |
Steve King, 44, Sheffield: | Steve King, 44, Sheffield: |
"I switched on the radio and I heard this - it was like a lightbulb moment. | "I switched on the radio and I heard this - it was like a lightbulb moment. |
"I'm 44 and I can't really remember anything of real significance. I'm almost embarrassed to say it but… my wedding day, the birth of my sons, birthdays, holidays, my honeymoon - anything big like that, I can't remember. | "I'm 44 and I can't really remember anything of real significance. I'm almost embarrassed to say it but… my wedding day, the birth of my sons, birthdays, holidays, my honeymoon - anything big like that, I can't remember. |
"I can't see any of it in my mind. My wife doesn't even bother to ask me about those events any more. | "I can't see any of it in my mind. My wife doesn't even bother to ask me about those events any more. |
"When I look at photos of these events, it just reinforces the fact that I was there. | "When I look at photos of these events, it just reinforces the fact that I was there. |
"People laugh at me and just think I have a really bad memory." | "People laugh at me and just think I have a really bad memory." |
Dr Sarah Jarvis, a GP and BBC Radio 2's medical expert says: "The first academic paper which suggested this condition might exist was as early as 1880. | Dr Sarah Jarvis, a GP and BBC Radio 2's medical expert says: "The first academic paper which suggested this condition might exist was as early as 1880. |
"It's very interesting that people who have aphantasia cannot visualise anything when their eyes are closed and they are awake, but they can have the same vivid dreams as everyone else. | "It's very interesting that people who have aphantasia cannot visualise anything when their eyes are closed and they are awake, but they can have the same vivid dreams as everyone else. |
"In can cause some difficulties in education because these days so much learning is done visually - right up to university level. Mind maps are very common. But people who have aphantasia simply can't picture the mind maps. | "In can cause some difficulties in education because these days so much learning is done visually - right up to university level. Mind maps are very common. But people who have aphantasia simply can't picture the mind maps. |
"We're only very recently beginning to recognise the impact this condition can have." | "We're only very recently beginning to recognise the impact this condition can have." |
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