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| 'A very British form of privatisation': readers on Grayling's rail plans 'A very British form of privatisation': readers on Grayling's rail plans | |
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| Britain could be set for a fully privatised rail line, as transport secretary Chris Grayling outlines plans for a new line connecting Oxford and Cambridge. | Britain could be set for a fully privatised rail line, as transport secretary Chris Grayling outlines plans for a new line connecting Oxford and Cambridge. |
| “What we are doing is taking this line out of Network Rail’s control,” Grayling told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme. | “What we are doing is taking this line out of Network Rail’s control,” Grayling told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme. |
| The transport secretary said the new private line, to be funded by “private finance, in a form to be decided”, would provide “a degree of comparison with Network Rail to say, ‘can we build lines quicker and cheaper than we are at the moment?’.” | The transport secretary said the new private line, to be funded by “private finance, in a form to be decided”, would provide “a degree of comparison with Network Rail to say, ‘can we build lines quicker and cheaper than we are at the moment?’.” |
| Readers below the line largely echoed the RMT union and Labour’s shadow transport secretary Andy McDonald in expressing scepticism at the proposals. | Readers below the line largely echoed the RMT union and Labour’s shadow transport secretary Andy McDonald in expressing scepticism at the proposals. |
| Below we highlight a selection of reader views. | Below we highlight a selection of reader views. |
| This amounts to a state regulated private monopoly | This amounts to a state regulated private monopoly |
| On the plus side a fully integrated rail system owned by one organisation will surely create efficiencies, on the minus side, there surely is nothing more economically deleterious than a complete 100% private monopoly. | On the plus side a fully integrated rail system owned by one organisation will surely create efficiencies, on the minus side, there surely is nothing more economically deleterious than a complete 100% private monopoly. |
| At least with a public monopoly, the profit motive does not extract resources away from the particular public service, and health and safety concerns are paramount. | At least with a public monopoly, the profit motive does not extract resources away from the particular public service, and health and safety concerns are paramount. |
| I wonder what the competition and markets authority will think of this state regulated private monopoly? Even if the contract is put out to tender every ten years or so, whilst in operation, it is still a monopoly. I say bring back proper nationalisation across the nations rail network and run this essential public service for the good of the people. Nationalisation does not have to be inefficient, it just needs to be run properly, with highly skilled, well paid and motivated staff, who have a stake in the success of the enterprise. | I wonder what the competition and markets authority will think of this state regulated private monopoly? Even if the contract is put out to tender every ten years or so, whilst in operation, it is still a monopoly. I say bring back proper nationalisation across the nations rail network and run this essential public service for the good of the people. Nationalisation does not have to be inefficient, it just needs to be run properly, with highly skilled, well paid and motivated staff, who have a stake in the success of the enterprise. |
| We will see higher fares | We will see higher fares |
| Given that all passenger train operating companies (TOCs) operate on the franchise model and that most franchises are between seven and ten years, what happens when a TOC, in the last year or two of their franchise, knows they won't get a franchise renewal? Are they going to keep spending their own money to maintain a network they know they'll be handing to a competitor in the near future or are they going to maintain it on a shoe string budget to maximise their own profits? | Given that all passenger train operating companies (TOCs) operate on the franchise model and that most franchises are between seven and ten years, what happens when a TOC, in the last year or two of their franchise, knows they won't get a franchise renewal? Are they going to keep spending their own money to maintain a network they know they'll be handing to a competitor in the near future or are they going to maintain it on a shoe string budget to maximise their own profits? |
| Also, what happens to operators who run trains on more than one company's section of line? Cross Country for example? Suddenly they are going to have to pay a premium to several other operators, rather than the current single access charge to Network Rail. You can guess how thry are going to recoup the cost. Yup, higher ticket prices. The same goes for the wholly private freight operators, which could quite easily be priced off the rails altogether and onto the roads. The notion that Grayling's proposal is somehow going to benefit passengers by lower fares or better safety, is pure fantasy. | Also, what happens to operators who run trains on more than one company's section of line? Cross Country for example? Suddenly they are going to have to pay a premium to several other operators, rather than the current single access charge to Network Rail. You can guess how thry are going to recoup the cost. Yup, higher ticket prices. The same goes for the wholly private freight operators, which could quite easily be priced off the rails altogether and onto the roads. The notion that Grayling's proposal is somehow going to benefit passengers by lower fares or better safety, is pure fantasy. |
| Let them raise their own capital | Let them raise their own capital |
| If private companies really are so wonderful at owning, providing and managing infrastructure, why not let them rise their own capital and take care of crossrail, HS2 and Heathrow? Oh right, they couldn't. | If private companies really are so wonderful at owning, providing and managing infrastructure, why not let them rise their own capital and take care of crossrail, HS2 and Heathrow? Oh right, they couldn't. |
| Why spend billions from the public purse one one rail line only to allow private companies to cream off the profits from an existing one? | Why spend billions from the public purse one one rail line only to allow private companies to cream off the profits from an existing one? |
| There will still be subsidies | There will still be subsidies |
| Does fully privatised mean that the government will give them no subsidies, that there will be no special tax breaks, that they will actually stand on their own two feet as no other privatised industry seems to be able to do? | Does fully privatised mean that the government will give them no subsidies, that there will be no special tax breaks, that they will actually stand on their own two feet as no other privatised industry seems to be able to do? |
| Rail requires a monopoly - state or private | Rail requires a monopoly - state or private |
| Deutsche Bahn runs practically everything in Germany. So yes it works as long as there is no competition. You can only run a railway if everything is under the control of one organisation. Which should be either the state or a heavily regulated and accountable monopoly. | Deutsche Bahn runs practically everything in Germany. So yes it works as long as there is no competition. You can only run a railway if everything is under the control of one organisation. Which should be either the state or a heavily regulated and accountable monopoly. |
| Will they pay for track maintenance? | Will they pay for track maintenance? |
| Does that mean that the new privatised rail company will pay the full cost of track maintenance ?Or does it mean that bigger subsidies will be handed out ?At present Network Rail cannot charge privatised rail companies the full cost of maintenance, as this is capped by government. | Does that mean that the new privatised rail company will pay the full cost of track maintenance ?Or does it mean that bigger subsidies will be handed out ?At present Network Rail cannot charge privatised rail companies the full cost of maintenance, as this is capped by government. |
| The plan could end up worse than Railtrack | The plan could end up worse than Railtrack |
| This is worse than Railtrack. Not only is a profit motive introduced to track maintenance, but making the train company responsible sets up a conflict of interest which is very likely to lead to corner cutting on safety. This is how a tory government with a huge poll lead acts- there's barely even any pretence of doing things for the public good even, just 'opportunities for private investment'. | This is worse than Railtrack. Not only is a profit motive introduced to track maintenance, but making the train company responsible sets up a conflict of interest which is very likely to lead to corner cutting on safety. This is how a tory government with a huge poll lead acts- there's barely even any pretence of doing things for the public good even, just 'opportunities for private investment'. |
| And whilst I'm sure an East-West line is a good idea, it's grossly unfair that infrastructure spending is so brazenly skewed to the South East. Hull-Selby electrification has just been axed and both E Midlands and trans-Pennine upgrades keep getting put back. The difference in age, speed and cleanliness of trains between regions is one of the starkest illustrations of the N-S divide. | And whilst I'm sure an East-West line is a good idea, it's grossly unfair that infrastructure spending is so brazenly skewed to the South East. Hull-Selby electrification has just been axed and both E Midlands and trans-Pennine upgrades keep getting put back. The difference in age, speed and cleanliness of trains between regions is one of the starkest illustrations of the N-S divide. |
| This is a government mostly for the south and mostly by the South. | This is a government mostly for the south and mostly by the South. |
| It’s a very British kind of privatisation | It’s a very British kind of privatisation |
| Wonderful We supply the funding for the project and then hand it over to the private sector on a plate.Its a very British form of privatisation where the taxpayer pays for and builds all costly the infrastructure and then hands it over to the private sector to take all the profit. | Wonderful We supply the funding for the project and then hand it over to the private sector on a plate.Its a very British form of privatisation where the taxpayer pays for and builds all costly the infrastructure and then hands it over to the private sector to take all the profit. |
| Just like the energy in the UK.Where the taxpayer will pay now have to pay replace all the ageing power stations the privates sector has profited from for the last 30 years. Just to keep the lights on. | Just like the energy in the UK.Where the taxpayer will pay now have to pay replace all the ageing power stations the privates sector has profited from for the last 30 years. Just to keep the lights on. |
| You got to love the Tories they're happy to spend taxpayers money (the've increased debt by £555 billion since George Osborne took office in 2010,) on big vanity projects.Only to hand them over to their backers and donors to make fats profits with none of the risk. Yet still we trust these charlatans with our money. | You got to love the Tories they're happy to spend taxpayers money (the've increased debt by £555 billion since George Osborne took office in 2010,) on big vanity projects.Only to hand them over to their backers and donors to make fats profits with none of the risk. Yet still we trust these charlatans with our money. |