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Myefo: Moody's says budget deficits will be greater than projected – politics live Myefo: Moody's says budget deficits will be greater than projected – politics live
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Message for Govt: Stop blaming Parliament for not passing unfair zombie measures and take the lead by find'g common ground @cassandragoldie
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This is lazy policy making, going for easy targets, mainly low income earners, with no structural reform plan for nation: @cassandragoldie
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The govt has stubbornly kept $7bn in unfair zombie cuts that have no hope of passing Parliament: @cassandragoldie pic.twitter.com/2sbBNOsOIi
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The Business Council of Australia’s Jennifer Westacott says Myefo underlines that Australia can continue to muddle along and “sleepwalk into lower living standards” or seize the opportunity to deliver a stronger budget.
Why?
The MYEFO update makes it clear we must intensify efforts to meet the twin budget objectives of reducing the rate of growth in spending and accelerating economic growth. This means continuing to redesign major spending programs to improve the quality of spending, cut waste and deliver better value for taxpayer dollars. At the same time, we must better equip the economy to support jobs and prosperity.
Politicians must move on from the phony, dead-end argument that supporting growth comes at the cost of fairness. Growth and fairness go hand in hand because growth creates economic opportunity.
Only economic growth can create jobs, higher wages and the revenue to pay for the health, education and welfare services Australians value.
And only economic growth can ensure this country becomes more capable each year of caring for all of its citizens, no matter what their circumstances.
We can no longer afford to ignore or be complacent about this reality.”
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Increase in parliamentary staff costs about $9.1m a year for 33 positions, or about $275,000 for each job.
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Pull in your belt, except politicians
The government has set aside another $35.8m over four years to increase personal staff allocations by 33 for all MPs and senators across the parliament .
The government will spend an $8.1m for a third staffed electorate office for members with electorates larger than 350,000 square kilometres.
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The same-sex marriage plebiscite of course, failed to proceed through the parliament.
The government has booked a saving of $154m.
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Economist Stephen Koukoulas has written on the Myefo. Here is a kernel.
In addition to blowing the budget deficits out by tens of billions of dollars a year, Morrison has pushed out the return to surplus to 2020-21, some two years later than Hockey and is now forecasting net government debt to reach a 60-year high of 19% of GDP. Recall that 1% of GDP on 2020 dollar terms is about $20bn.
The question now is not whether the ratings agencies will downgrade Australia but whether there will be numerous downgrades over the next few years.
The curious thing about the debt and deficit widening of the last few years is that it has been driven by a rise in government spending together with a shortfall in revenue.
Government spending as a share of GDP under the Morrison Myefo forecasts is projected to be 25.2% of GDP in both 2016-17 and 2017-18, respectively, compared with the Hockey 2014 estimates of 24.7% and 24.8%, respectively. Accordingly, government spending is an average 0.5% of GDP higher each year than projected by Hockey.
At the time of the 2014 budget, government revenue as a proportion of GDP was forecast to be 24.4% in 2016-17 and 24.9% in 2017-18. The Morrison Myefo forecasts are for revenue to be 23.3% and 23.8%, respectively, a shortfall of an average 1.1% of GDP in each year.
Morrison has failed to address either spending, which is significantly higher than in the 2014 budget, nor revenue, which is clearly lower.
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So while revenue coming into government has dropped, there has also been a drop in what the government pays out.So while revenue coming into government has dropped, there has also been a drop in what the government pays out.
The drop in government payments is due partly to the following factors:The drop in government payments is due partly to the following factors:
Why? I have no answers as yet but I am seeking them. Any ideas, let me know.Why? I have no answers as yet but I am seeking them. Any ideas, let me know.
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The Labor finance shadow, Jim Chalmers, rejects suggestions the opposition should chip in and support government savings measures more. He says the government could dump the $50bn corporate tax cuts with a stroke of a pen if it wants to really repair the budget.The Labor finance shadow, Jim Chalmers, rejects suggestions the opposition should chip in and support government savings measures more. He says the government could dump the $50bn corporate tax cuts with a stroke of a pen if it wants to really repair the budget.
No opposition in recent memory has put more effort into proposing alternative savings when we oppose the savings the government has put.No opposition in recent memory has put more effort into proposing alternative savings when we oppose the savings the government has put.
We took $130bn worth of savings to a federal election, which is unheard of in this country.We took $130bn worth of savings to a federal election, which is unheard of in this country.
The effort that we put into proposing alternatives when we won’t cop smashing Medicare or we won’t cop smashing the most vulnerable people in this country to repair the budget. We believe in budget repair that’s fair. We have pitched up those alternatives for that reason because we do think there’s a better way.The effort that we put into proposing alternatives when we won’t cop smashing Medicare or we won’t cop smashing the most vulnerable people in this country to repair the budget. We believe in budget repair that’s fair. We have pitched up those alternatives for that reason because we do think there’s a better way.
Both sides agree that we need to fix the mess that the government has made of the budget. We think there’s a better way to do it.Both sides agree that we need to fix the mess that the government has made of the budget. We think there’s a better way to do it.
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Chris Bowen is asked, if Labor would reconsider supporting some of the government’s measures to repair the budget.Chris Bowen is asked, if Labor would reconsider supporting some of the government’s measures to repair the budget.
It was a theme of Scott Morrison’s presentation that he needs “partners in parliament”.It was a theme of Scott Morrison’s presentation that he needs “partners in parliament”.
Moody’s also made the point that legislating savings measures remains “challenging”.Moody’s also made the point that legislating savings measures remains “challenging”.
But Bowen says Labor had a responsibility to its own voters.But Bowen says Labor had a responsibility to its own voters.
The treasurer was boasting a few minutes ago he passed two-thirds of the government’s savings objectives, that’s right.The treasurer was boasting a few minutes ago he passed two-thirds of the government’s savings objectives, that’s right.
That’s with our support. Some of them are our ideas, which they then adopted. So we have shown that we can work with the government in the parliament to pass sensible savings measures, the treasurer himself said two-thirds has been passed. Yep and that was with, by and large, our support.That’s with our support. Some of them are our ideas, which they then adopted. So we have shown that we can work with the government in the parliament to pass sensible savings measures, the treasurer himself said two-thirds has been passed. Yep and that was with, by and large, our support.
But what we won’t do is sell out those Australians who voted for us and rely on us to protect them. We won’t say that it’s OK for unemployed people to wait an inordinate amount of time for basic support. We won’t say it’s OK that Australians should have the highest pension age in the world. We won’t say it’s OK because it’s not OK.But what we won’t do is sell out those Australians who voted for us and rely on us to protect them. We won’t say that it’s OK for unemployed people to wait an inordinate amount of time for basic support. We won’t say it’s OK that Australians should have the highest pension age in the world. We won’t say it’s OK because it’s not OK.
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From AAP, reaction from the ACTU:From AAP, reaction from the ACTU:
Trade unions say the government still refuses to acknowledge it has a revenue problem and continues to squib tax reform.The ACTU secretary, Dave Oliver, criticised the prime minister, Malcolm Turnbull, for delivering spending cuts that hit ordinary Australians, as well as presiding over an economy in reverse.“Mr Turnbull could give all Australians some good news ahead of Christmas and outline a plan for growth based on more well-paid, secure jobs,” he said.Trade unions say the government still refuses to acknowledge it has a revenue problem and continues to squib tax reform.The ACTU secretary, Dave Oliver, criticised the prime minister, Malcolm Turnbull, for delivering spending cuts that hit ordinary Australians, as well as presiding over an economy in reverse.“Mr Turnbull could give all Australians some good news ahead of Christmas and outline a plan for growth based on more well-paid, secure jobs,” he said.
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From AAP, reaction from the business sector:From AAP, reaction from the business sector:
Business believes the midyear budget update is a fresh reminder for parliament to work together to get the nation’s finances back in the black.The review, released on Monday, shows the bottom line worsening over the next three years but still with an expectation of a return to surplus by 2021.“The opposition and crossbenchers share with the government responsibility for the slow progress in balancing the budget and reducing the intergenerational burden of deficits,” Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry CEO James Pearson said.Pearson praised treasurer Scott Morrison for avoiding the temptation to reach for “economy-crushing” tax increases.“It was now clear a young Australian born in 2008 may need to wait until their teenage years before they experience a budget surplus,” he said.“Prolonged budget deficits mean long into their adulthood, that child will be paying the price for the collective reluctance of our current generation of politicians to make the tough decisions needed to curb spending.”Business believes the midyear budget update is a fresh reminder for parliament to work together to get the nation’s finances back in the black.The review, released on Monday, shows the bottom line worsening over the next three years but still with an expectation of a return to surplus by 2021.“The opposition and crossbenchers share with the government responsibility for the slow progress in balancing the budget and reducing the intergenerational burden of deficits,” Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry CEO James Pearson said.Pearson praised treasurer Scott Morrison for avoiding the temptation to reach for “economy-crushing” tax increases.“It was now clear a young Australian born in 2008 may need to wait until their teenage years before they experience a budget surplus,” he said.“Prolonged budget deficits mean long into their adulthood, that child will be paying the price for the collective reluctance of our current generation of politicians to make the tough decisions needed to curb spending.”
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Labor finance shadow Jim Chalmers calls the statement a triple-F performance from the Coalition.Labor finance shadow Jim Chalmers calls the statement a triple-F performance from the Coalition.
If Australia loses its coveted AAA rating, that means, that means higher costs for families and small businesses right around the country.If Australia loses its coveted AAA rating, that means, that means higher costs for families and small businesses right around the country.
Now higher mortgage repayments would be a steep price for Australians to pay for this treasurer and this government’s incompetence. They promised that they would fix the budget and they promised jobs and growth. Instead we got bigger deficits, we got a shrinking economy and we have got those full-time jobs disappearing. They have delivered precisely the opposite of what they promised that would deliver.Now higher mortgage repayments would be a steep price for Australians to pay for this treasurer and this government’s incompetence. They promised that they would fix the budget and they promised jobs and growth. Instead we got bigger deficits, we got a shrinking economy and we have got those full-time jobs disappearing. They have delivered precisely the opposite of what they promised that would deliver.
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Chris Bowen:Chris Bowen:
This update confirms the fact that, since the Liberals and Nationals came to office, debt is around $100bn higher, that’s around $4,500 for every Australian.This update confirms the fact that, since the Liberals and Nationals came to office, debt is around $100bn higher, that’s around $4,500 for every Australian.
It confirms the fact that this government has no plan, no proper plan, well thought out plan, importantly, which can pass the parliament to see our budget surplus protected.It confirms the fact that this government has no plan, no proper plan, well thought out plan, importantly, which can pass the parliament to see our budget surplus protected.
We warned during the election campaign that the government’s forecasts were overly optimistic.We warned during the election campaign that the government’s forecasts were overly optimistic.
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Labor: surplus is wafer thin and could be fixed by dumping the corporate tax cuts
Labor’s Chris Bowen is up now with the finance shadow, Jim Chalmers.
We welcome the fact that the surplus will be projected to continue for 20/21, however, it is a wafer-thin surplus, subject to any changes in the budget parameters that are, that would be further announced. It is a wafer-thin surplus which could be blown over by the slightest breeze. Now, the fact of the matter is that there could be a better way. The surplus for 20/21 could be around $4bn better if the government dropped their big business tax cuts and adopted Labor’s sensible plans for negative gearing and capital gains tax reform.
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#MYEFO statement from Moodys on Australia's AAA rating #auspol pic.twitter.com/d2NDNcjGXH
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Moody's expects budget deficits to be bigger than government projections
Moody’s has issued a statement that questions the government’s Myefo statement. I will give the full statement in a minute.
Here is the key sentences:
Although progress has been made since the budget in implementing fiscal consolidation measures, this has been achieved mainly through appropriations and regulations. Legislating fiscal consolidation measures remains challenging.
As a result, we expect that the budget deficits will be somewhat wider for longer than currently projected. Gross general government debt will rise in the next couple of years to rise to around 42% of GDP in our projections. This is broadly in line with the median level of AAA-rated sovereigns.
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BREAKING: Moody's says expects budget deficits to be bigger than revealed in #MYEFO...
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Abbott Hockey Asset Recycling Fund dumped
The end of the Arf.
This was the fund that would have provided incentive payments to state and territory governments that sell assets and use the proceeds to build “nation-building infrastructure”.
Q: Can I ask about the Assets Recycling Fund? It was a rather miserable end for Joe Hockey’s centrepiece for 2014. What leverage are you going to use on States to privatise and the like?
Just on the second question, the Asset Recycling initiative was a roaring success but what has turned out to be the case is that because the Senate wasn’t prepared to legislate the establishment of the Asset Recycling Fund, given we were able to fulfil our commitment without setting up a specific fund. I would not agree with your characterisation there.
Elsewhere, Tony Abbott has yet to comment. He is on a peace and love trip with Bill Shorten.
Peace in the Middle East. @billshortenmp @TonyAbbottMHR @TimSmithMP Australia Israel UK Leadership Dialogue #auspol pic.twitter.com/prw3GtZRqw
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Tony Abbott nanny childcare program dumped
Tony Abbott’s so-called nannies pilot – the interim home-based carer subsidy program – has been dumped.
The numbers in the pilot will be slashed from 3000 to 500 – a cut that will receive a saving of $170.4m over two years.
The government says there has been little take up of the pilot program, which aimed to subsidise nanny childcare for 10,000 kids. So while existing participants will be funded until it closes in June 2018, no new nannies will be funded.
It was heralded as the first big thing in the second Abbott childcare package of 2015, which followed the first big rolled gold signature childcare package which did not survive the partyroom.
Scott Morrison announced the measure initially as social services minister in 2015.
Key workers such as nurses, police officers, ambulance officers and firefighters, as well as other shift workers, are too often unable to access childcare and take advantage of government support because of the nature and hours of their work.
The same is often true for families in rural and regional areas and those who have children with special needs, for whom mainstream childcare services are often inaccessible, lack the necessary flexibility or do not cater for their specific needs.
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Let’s move on to the details of some key changes, some of which we knew about.
The green army is cactus.
The government will cut the program, worth $224.7m over four years.
Existing contracts will be funded.
The majority of savings will be directed towards other programs with a bit for budget repair.
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OK the press conference has wrapped with the treasurer’s well-known homage to the Australian singer Tina Arena.
We have measures of parliament which need the approval of partners to ensure future generations aren’t saddled with bad debt.
Bad debt paying for welfare payments of today through higher taxes on people in the future. That’s not the way we want to go.
So we are delivering on those commitments. We will continue to do that in the new year as we work towards next year’s budget.
On that note, can I wish you all a very merry Christmas. Tina Arena I don’t think has a Christmas CD out this year, which is a great disappointment to me.
I will have to go back to the old ones. I hope your families have a safe and Merry Christmas.
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Govt confirms the 15-16 MYEFO plan to change pathology bulk-bill arrangements has been deferred for "further consultation" - #MYEFO
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Our neighbour Shane Wright of the West Australian:
The govt still has $205 million in savings for 16-17 to announce #MYEFO