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CPAC 2017 live: Steve Bannon taunts media and vows 'every day will be a fight' CPAC 2017 live: Steve Bannon taunts media and vows 'every day will be a fight'
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White House aides Steve Bannon and Reince Priebus seemed pretty relaxed in each other’s company earlier. But not that relaxed ...
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Farage: Trump does it in his own remarkable wayFarage: Trump does it in his own remarkable way
David SmithDavid Smith
Nigel Farage, the former leader of the UK Independence Party, has endorsed Steve Bannon’s attack on the media but declined to say whether he will meet the White House chief strategist during the conference.Nigel Farage, the former leader of the UK Independence Party, has endorsed Steve Bannon’s attack on the media but declined to say whether he will meet the White House chief strategist during the conference.
“The truth of it is that too much of the establishment broadcast media in particular has effectively become wedded to this form of global social democracy that we’ve lived through for the last 20 years and I think there are genuinely questions about impartiality with a series of major broadcasters right across the west,” Farage told the Guardian.“The truth of it is that too much of the establishment broadcast media in particular has effectively become wedded to this form of global social democracy that we’ve lived through for the last 20 years and I think there are genuinely questions about impartiality with a series of major broadcasters right across the west,” Farage told the Guardian.
“Trump does it in his own remarkable way but you know, public trust in these organisations has collapsed.”“Trump does it in his own remarkable way but you know, public trust in these organisations has collapsed.”
Farage said he has known Bannon for “many years” but, when asked whether they had talked here, he replied cryptically: “I can’t remember.”Farage said he has known Bannon for “many years” but, when asked whether they had talked here, he replied cryptically: “I can’t remember.”
The Brexit leader also attended last year’s Republican national convention in Cleveland and joined Trump on the campaign trail. Trump tweeted that he would make a great British ambassador to the US.The Brexit leader also attended last year’s Republican national convention in Cleveland and joined Trump on the campaign trail. Trump tweeted that he would make a great British ambassador to the US.
Farage, who put money on a Trump victory, said: “I think it’s a wonderful refreshing change to see someone who’s been elected who’s absolutely intent on putting his platform into policy. That I like. Clearly there have been some frustrations. As a self-made man who’s done his own thing for the last 50 years, he’s not going to find that easy. He’s used to making big decisions and whether it goes well or badly, the buck stops with him. It’s tough.”Farage, who put money on a Trump victory, said: “I think it’s a wonderful refreshing change to see someone who’s been elected who’s absolutely intent on putting his platform into policy. That I like. Clearly there have been some frustrations. As a self-made man who’s done his own thing for the last 50 years, he’s not going to find that easy. He’s used to making big decisions and whether it goes well or badly, the buck stops with him. It’s tough.”
Asked about Trump’s travel bans, which led to chaos and protests at airports, Farage replied: “I just don’t get the hypocrisy of all you people. Sixteen countries ban Jews [actually Israelis] going into them, you don’t say a dicky bird. This man says for 90 days he’s going to put a temporary suspension on while he looks at the vetting rules – and by the way, America’s vetting rules are quite strict already, interestingly – working out whether it’s right or not, and it’s being portrayed amongst elements in the media and by many in western politics as if it’s some sort of road to fascism or something awful.Asked about Trump’s travel bans, which led to chaos and protests at airports, Farage replied: “I just don’t get the hypocrisy of all you people. Sixteen countries ban Jews [actually Israelis] going into them, you don’t say a dicky bird. This man says for 90 days he’s going to put a temporary suspension on while he looks at the vetting rules – and by the way, America’s vetting rules are quite strict already, interestingly – working out whether it’s right or not, and it’s being portrayed amongst elements in the media and by many in western politics as if it’s some sort of road to fascism or something awful.
“I just frankly think it’s the most massively over the top reaction. Now obviously he’s got caught up in legal complexity; he’s going to come back and have another try.”“I just frankly think it’s the most massively over the top reaction. Now obviously he’s got caught up in legal complexity; he’s going to come back and have another try.”
Farage also dismissed persistent allegations about the Trump campaign’s connections with Russia. “It’s been interfering in every election the world for the last hundred years, as indeed America has, so this is what goes on. It doesn’t mean it’s right or good; it’s the reality. Countries spy on each other, companies spy on each other. That’s the way it works.Farage also dismissed persistent allegations about the Trump campaign’s connections with Russia. “It’s been interfering in every election the world for the last hundred years, as indeed America has, so this is what goes on. It doesn’t mean it’s right or good; it’s the reality. Countries spy on each other, companies spy on each other. That’s the way it works.
“Now, the interesting thing is how does his policy apropos Russia take shape? What’s it going to be? And it’s clear there are differing views in the administration as to what the approach to Russia is, but what I do firmly think is that he will meet Putin and he will attempt to forge a better understanding between the west and Putin. Goodness me, absolutely right as far as I’m concerned.”“Now, the interesting thing is how does his policy apropos Russia take shape? What’s it going to be? And it’s clear there are differing views in the administration as to what the approach to Russia is, but what I do firmly think is that he will meet Putin and he will attempt to forge a better understanding between the west and Putin. Goodness me, absolutely right as far as I’m concerned.”
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Richard Barrett, a 21-year-old student who identified himself as an early Trump supporter, said he felt vindicated by the pro-Trump tone that dominated CPAC’s opening day.Richard Barrett, a 21-year-old student who identified himself as an early Trump supporter, said he felt vindicated by the pro-Trump tone that dominated CPAC’s opening day.
“I was here last year, and this convention was pretty anti-Trump,” Barrett said. “It was really funny, because everybody here was ‘Never Trump’; [they said] he’s never going to win the primary, it’s going to be Ted Cruz all the way.’“I was here last year, and this convention was pretty anti-Trump,” Barrett said. “It was really funny, because everybody here was ‘Never Trump’; [they said] he’s never going to win the primary, it’s going to be Ted Cruz all the way.’
“And, well, here we are.”“And, well, here we are.”
Even those who did not initially back Trump’s candidacy had warmed up to his views, even if they often deviated from Republican orthodoxy.Even those who did not initially back Trump’s candidacy had warmed up to his views, even if they often deviated from Republican orthodoxy.
Ryan Errotabere, a supporter of Cruz during the primary who stood in the CPAC corridor donning one of the Make America Great Again hats, said the term “conservatism” was often misused in the current political climate.Ryan Errotabere, a supporter of Cruz during the primary who stood in the CPAC corridor donning one of the Make America Great Again hats, said the term “conservatism” was often misused in the current political climate.
“So far his cabinet is very conservative. He’s ran his presidency fairly conservative right now,” Errotabere said.“So far his cabinet is very conservative. He’s ran his presidency fairly conservative right now,” Errotabere said.
“As of now, he’s been more conservative than a lot of members in Congress that call themselves conservatives.”“As of now, he’s been more conservative than a lot of members in Congress that call themselves conservatives.”
Errotabere did, however, disagree with Trump’s broad characterization of the media as being “fake news”.Errotabere did, however, disagree with Trump’s broad characterization of the media as being “fake news”.
“I think there’s areas of the media that are dishonest, but I’d be remiss if I said I don’t trust any news whatsoever,” he said.“I think there’s areas of the media that are dishonest, but I’d be remiss if I said I don’t trust any news whatsoever,” he said.
“If it’s critical of Trump, it’s more [a question of] is it factual?”“If it’s critical of Trump, it’s more [a question of] is it factual?”
Errotabere was nonetheless reticent to say Trump should tone down his attacks on the media — which have included referring to the press last week as “the enemy of the American people.” The coverage of Trump, he noted, had been overwhelmingly negative.Errotabere was nonetheless reticent to say Trump should tone down his attacks on the media — which have included referring to the press last week as “the enemy of the American people.” The coverage of Trump, he noted, had been overwhelmingly negative.
Barrett was more scathing in his assessment of the Fourth Estate and its rapport with the new administration.Barrett was more scathing in his assessment of the Fourth Estate and its rapport with the new administration.
“In the same way that leaks to the liberal media are a hurdle for President Trump, President Trump is a new hurdle for the liberal media,” he said.“In the same way that leaks to the liberal media are a hurdle for President Trump, President Trump is a new hurdle for the liberal media,” he said.
“We’re going to double down. We’re going to fight through the ambush you set up. And we’re going to call it like it is.”“We’re going to double down. We’re going to fight through the ambush you set up. And we’re going to call it like it is.”
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David Burgess, 62, who runs a nonprofit organisation in Seattle, said it was “too early too tell” how Trump was doing so far.David Burgess, 62, who runs a nonprofit organisation in Seattle, said it was “too early too tell” how Trump was doing so far.
“There is obviously a lot of organised opposition. They need to deliver on their priorities and whether they can remains to be seen,” he said.“There is obviously a lot of organised opposition. They need to deliver on their priorities and whether they can remains to be seen,” he said.
He thought the role of the alt right in conservatism was “overblown”.He thought the role of the alt right in conservatism was “overblown”.
“There’s a lot of political jockeying back and forth. Liberals like to label the right extremists and conservatives like the label the left extremists. Some of the ideas of the Trump people like Bannon may not be traditional, but I think the antisemitism charges are over the top. It’s political posturing; it’s the game they play.”“There’s a lot of political jockeying back and forth. Liberals like to label the right extremists and conservatives like the label the left extremists. Some of the ideas of the Trump people like Bannon may not be traditional, but I think the antisemitism charges are over the top. It’s political posturing; it’s the game they play.”
He said Trump and co “seem to enjoy prodding the media and the media takes the bait. The media would be better sticking to their jobs and reporting fairly. If you read headlines and watch CNN, you just can’t be outraged by every single thing. They need to take a pill, have a glass of wine and just do their jobs. If everyone stuck to their jobs, America would be a better place.”He said Trump and co “seem to enjoy prodding the media and the media takes the bait. The media would be better sticking to their jobs and reporting fairly. If you read headlines and watch CNN, you just can’t be outraged by every single thing. They need to take a pill, have a glass of wine and just do their jobs. If everyone stuck to their jobs, America would be a better place.”
Deborah Aldrich, 60, a political activist from Salt Lake City, said Trump was doing “great” so far.Deborah Aldrich, 60, a political activist from Salt Lake City, said Trump was doing “great” so far.
“There may have been a few little hiccups at the beginning but he’s not a professional politician, he’s a successful businessman. He’s keeping the promises he made.”“There may have been a few little hiccups at the beginning but he’s not a professional politician, he’s a successful businessman. He’s keeping the promises he made.”
She said she considered herself “in the middle of the road”.She said she considered herself “in the middle of the road”.
“We are a party of inclusivity. We don’t want to discriminate against people. The alt-right doesn’t really have a platform here.”“We are a party of inclusivity. We don’t want to discriminate against people. The alt-right doesn’t really have a platform here.”
She agreed with Bannon about the media. “It’s almost impossible to turn on MSNBC, CNN or the liberal media, or pick up a newspaper because most of them are liberal, and get an honest view. That’s why I went to many of Trump’s rallies: I wanted to see for myself the message he was giving, the people who were there.”She agreed with Bannon about the media. “It’s almost impossible to turn on MSNBC, CNN or the liberal media, or pick up a newspaper because most of them are liberal, and get an honest view. That’s why I went to many of Trump’s rallies: I wanted to see for myself the message he was giving, the people who were there.”
Joseph Enders, 22, a student from Chicago now living in New York, who was wearing a red USA baseball cap and a parody Bernie Sanders T-shirt that says, said Trump was “holding up on a lot of his campaign promises” and “doing a really good job”.Joseph Enders, 22, a student from Chicago now living in New York, who was wearing a red USA baseball cap and a parody Bernie Sanders T-shirt that says, said Trump was “holding up on a lot of his campaign promises” and “doing a really good job”.
He added: “I keep up on the news, and not fake news ... I stand with Bannon because I stand for honest reporting. Where are all the Walter Cronkites?”He added: “I keep up on the news, and not fake news ... I stand with Bannon because I stand for honest reporting. Where are all the Walter Cronkites?”
Of the alt right, he said: “It’s growing but I don’t think the race wing of it is growing. Nationalism is part of the alt right but doesn’t necessarily have to be a bad thing.”Of the alt right, he said: “It’s growing but I don’t think the race wing of it is growing. Nationalism is part of the alt right but doesn’t necessarily have to be a bad thing.”
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George Longobardi of Marlboro, NJ, said he thought Trump was doing “a pretty good job so far”.George Longobardi of Marlboro, NJ, said he thought Trump was doing “a pretty good job so far”.
He said he thought the president was a “pragmatic person … a businessman”, rather than a conservative.He said he thought the president was a “pragmatic person … a businessman”, rather than a conservative.
The wall between the US and Mexico would not necessarily be “a stone and brick wall”, he predicted, and he felt it would be paid for through “lowering taxes [that] will create more revenue for the government in the long run”; Trump would also save money through cutting waste, he felt.The wall between the US and Mexico would not necessarily be “a stone and brick wall”, he predicted, and he felt it would be paid for through “lowering taxes [that] will create more revenue for the government in the long run”; Trump would also save money through cutting waste, he felt.
Longobardi had been to CPAC last year for the first time, but this year “the spirit is different, the energy is different. People feel the country is back on the right track … And more well-attended this year. More people I guess here looking for jobs, too.”Longobardi had been to CPAC last year for the first time, but this year “the spirit is different, the energy is different. People feel the country is back on the right track … And more well-attended this year. More people I guess here looking for jobs, too.”
What was his view of the alt right, the far right group which has become increasingly influential? “Well, they had a talk about it today and they said it was a hijacked slogan of the Republican conservative party,” said Longobardi. “I think that labels both ways, labels against Muslims or labels against conservatives, are wrong. You continue to do the right thing, all of that falls away.”What was his view of the alt right, the far right group which has become increasingly influential? “Well, they had a talk about it today and they said it was a hijacked slogan of the Republican conservative party,” said Longobardi. “I think that labels both ways, labels against Muslims or labels against conservatives, are wrong. You continue to do the right thing, all of that falls away.”
He added: “If they’re all back to work, if the areas are safer, if minority children get a better education, if all these things happen, all that fades away.”He added: “If they’re all back to work, if the areas are safer, if minority children get a better education, if all these things happen, all that fades away.”
He felt the Democrats were “doing themselves a disservice” by “screaming about everything”. “They need to pick their battles, for a real reason that they can win, not just to be obstructionist.”He felt the Democrats were “doing themselves a disservice” by “screaming about everything”. “They need to pick their battles, for a real reason that they can win, not just to be obstructionist.”
He added: “The media has taken over from them now because they’ve left a vacuum. They’re doing nothing. They’re promoting nobody to run for president in four years … They have to get their act together and until they can the media is picking up the slack for them. All they do is cry and moan – not that I can blame them; they’re pretty disappointed.”He added: “The media has taken over from them now because they’ve left a vacuum. They’re doing nothing. They’re promoting nobody to run for president in four years … They have to get their act together and until they can the media is picking up the slack for them. All they do is cry and moan – not that I can blame them; they’re pretty disappointed.”
But he didn’t agree with White House aide Steve Bannon’s description of the media as “the opposition party”. “I do think the media does lean left of centre … He’s from a conservative background, Breitbart, so that’s his prejudice, that;s his bias. Do I believe all of it? No. But I do think, again, his point, they do lean left of centre.”But he didn’t agree with White House aide Steve Bannon’s description of the media as “the opposition party”. “I do think the media does lean left of centre … He’s from a conservative background, Breitbart, so that’s his prejudice, that;s his bias. Do I believe all of it? No. But I do think, again, his point, they do lean left of centre.”
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Emily Larsen, from Boise, Idaho, said she thought Donald Trump “has been doing a really good job of keeping his promises that he campaigned on – the perspective of whether or not that’s a good thing that’s something that I’m personally trying to come to a conclusion on.”Emily Larsen, from Boise, Idaho, said she thought Donald Trump “has been doing a really good job of keeping his promises that he campaigned on – the perspective of whether or not that’s a good thing that’s something that I’m personally trying to come to a conclusion on.”
She said Trump should have consulted with Congress before implementing the travel ban. “I think it kind of showed a lack of communication between the executive and legislative branches with that.”She said Trump should have consulted with Congress before implementing the travel ban. “I think it kind of showed a lack of communication between the executive and legislative branches with that.”
She had supported Florida senator Marco Rubio in the Republican primary and described herself as a “very moderate kind of Republican”. “I’m still coming to terms with the decision to have Trump as president … It’s kind of getting past that shock. If I were to say that there’s anything positive coming out of Trump’s presidency it’s that I think this is the most engaged this country’s ever been in politics, at least in recent history. People are coming out and they’re marching or they’re in support or against things. They’re paying attention and that’s been really awesome.”She had supported Florida senator Marco Rubio in the Republican primary and described herself as a “very moderate kind of Republican”. “I’m still coming to terms with the decision to have Trump as president … It’s kind of getting past that shock. If I were to say that there’s anything positive coming out of Trump’s presidency it’s that I think this is the most engaged this country’s ever been in politics, at least in recent history. People are coming out and they’re marching or they’re in support or against things. They’re paying attention and that’s been really awesome.”
A lot of Trump’s proposals – the wall with Mexico, for example – would lead to a lot of public spending. Did Larssen think he was a real conservative? “Based on the definition of conservative, not using the executive branch for every decision that you make, or being very careful about expansive government. At this point I haven’t necessarily seen that – I’ve seen more of a unitary approach.”A lot of Trump’s proposals – the wall with Mexico, for example – would lead to a lot of public spending. Did Larssen think he was a real conservative? “Based on the definition of conservative, not using the executive branch for every decision that you make, or being very careful about expansive government. At this point I haven’t necessarily seen that – I’ve seen more of a unitary approach.”
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Trump repeats nuclear expansion threatTrump repeats nuclear expansion threat
Meanwhile Trump has given an interview to Reuters in which he has said he wants to expand the US nuclear arsenal to ensure it is “top of the pack”.Meanwhile Trump has given an interview to Reuters in which he has said he wants to expand the US nuclear arsenal to ensure it is “top of the pack”.
The president also told the news agency he felt the US had fallen behind in its atomic weapons capacity.The president also told the news agency he felt the US had fallen behind in its atomic weapons capacity.
He complained about Russian deployment of a cruise missile in violation of an arms control treaty and said he would raise the issue with Russian president Vladimir Putin when and if they meet.He complained about Russian deployment of a cruise missile in violation of an arms control treaty and said he would raise the issue with Russian president Vladimir Putin when and if they meet.
On another front, Trump said China could solve the national security challenge posed by North Korea “very easily if they want to”, ratcheting up pressure on Beijing to exert more influence to rein in Pyongyang’s increasingly bellicose actions.On another front, Trump said China could solve the national security challenge posed by North Korea “very easily if they want to”, ratcheting up pressure on Beijing to exert more influence to rein in Pyongyang’s increasingly bellicose actions.
Speaking from behind his desk in the Oval Office, Trump also declared himself “very angry” at North Korea’s ballistic missile tests and said accelerating a missile defense system for US allies Japan and South Korea was among many options available.Speaking from behind his desk in the Oval Office, Trump also declared himself “very angry” at North Korea’s ballistic missile tests and said accelerating a missile defense system for US allies Japan and South Korea was among many options available.
Trump made similar comments about nuclear weapons in December, when he tweeted: “The United States must greatly strengthen and expand its nuclear capability until such time as the world comes to its senses regarding nukes,” and told MSNBC’s Morning Joe: “Let it be an arms race … We will outmatch them at every pass and outlast them all.”Trump made similar comments about nuclear weapons in December, when he tweeted: “The United States must greatly strengthen and expand its nuclear capability until such time as the world comes to its senses regarding nukes,” and told MSNBC’s Morning Joe: “Let it be an arms race … We will outmatch them at every pass and outlast them all.”
Then and now, the remarks flew in the face of 35 years of bipartisan US policy geared towards reducing the number of nuclear weapons around the world.Then and now, the remarks flew in the face of 35 years of bipartisan US policy geared towards reducing the number of nuclear weapons around the world.
A 2013 US review found that the country already had a third more strategic weapons than were necessary to ensure nuclear deterrence.A 2013 US review found that the country already had a third more strategic weapons than were necessary to ensure nuclear deterrence.
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Trump supports a border adjustment tax – won’t it just be passed on to consumers?Trump supports a border adjustment tax – won’t it just be passed on to consumers?
When a company choses to leave our country and shed American jobs there is a big cost to our workers, he says.When a company choses to leave our country and shed American jobs there is a big cost to our workers, he says.
With that he calls it a day.With that he calls it a day.
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Does Steve Bannon really believe the media is the “opposition party”? Yes he does.Does Steve Bannon really believe the media is the “opposition party”? Yes he does.
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Will the administration hold people like former labor secretary nominee Andrew Puzder to account when they employ undocumented immigrants?Will the administration hold people like former labor secretary nominee Andrew Puzder to account when they employ undocumented immigrants?
Spicer says they will. Puzder did the right thing when he found out.Spicer says they will. Puzder did the right thing when he found out.
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Trump has said he has given permission for the US to sell two countries military equipment. Which countries? Spicer says they’ll reveal that at some point.Trump has said he has given permission for the US to sell two countries military equipment. Which countries? Spicer says they’ll reveal that at some point.
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Where is the travel ban legal fight up to?Where is the travel ban legal fight up to?
Spicer says it is being fought in “10 or so” courts and they continue to deal with it “in all of those venues”. And there is an “additional executive order” about to come out.Spicer says it is being fought in “10 or so” courts and they continue to deal with it “in all of those venues”. And there is an “additional executive order” about to come out.
He repeats his pledge that they will “prevail” in court on the merits of the case.He repeats his pledge that they will “prevail” in court on the merits of the case.
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Is Trump still committed to pulling out of the Paris climate change deal?Is Trump still committed to pulling out of the Paris climate change deal?
That’s a conversation he is having with secretary of state Rex Tillerson, Spicer says.That’s a conversation he is having with secretary of state Rex Tillerson, Spicer says.
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The media just got thrown out of the main hall so that it can be searched by law enforcement in preparation for Mike Pence’s speech here later, so I missed the last couple of questions.The media just got thrown out of the main hall so that it can be searched by law enforcement in preparation for Mike Pence’s speech here later, so I missed the last couple of questions.
What is the president’s thinking on Syria and the future of Bashar al-Assad?What is the president’s thinking on Syria and the future of Bashar al-Assad?
Spicer refers that one to the State Department.Spicer refers that one to the State Department.
What about safe zones? Trump’s goal is to get commitments from other world leaders on that, Spicer says.What about safe zones? Trump’s goal is to get commitments from other world leaders on that, Spicer says.