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Is it possible for Britons to keep freedom of movement? Join our live look at the week Would you kill a mole in your garden? Join our live look at the week
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Many of you taking the response to that piece on moles 100% seriously, we note.
Would you kill a mole in your garden?
Hold him hostage. Maybe you'll be able to bag Ratty, Toad and Badger as well.
Would I "kill a mole in my garden"?
Good lord no! No filthy moles nor other creatures for that matter in my garden.
It is a nice sterile space laid entirely to concrete complemented nicely by nice steal patio furniture and a few nice decorative plastic shrubs which have been sprayed to keep the vermin off.
We have nice tight electric fencing reaching from 4 metres high down to a recessed guttering 10cms below grade, UV lamps to zap the bugs and twice a week I have the whole wretched lot hosed down and disinfected.
Yes indeed. Thankfully, there's nothing "a live" in Hortum-Roared.
Frankly... All this talk of moles is making me itch
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Would you kill a mole in your garden?
Brendan Borrell
After I published my piece about a feud among British molecatchers over mole welfare, my mother asked my opinion. “I think they need to be controlled, do you?” she wrote.
Although I had spent months researching this contentious topic, I didn’t have a simple answer for her. I live in dry, hot southern California, where many people have replaced their beloved lawns with drought-tolerant plants, and I think there’s a broader lesson there that applies to backyard mole control. Rather than designing our yards to some preconceived ideal, we should be taking into account the neighbouring wildlife and environment.
If you live in an area with lots of moles, you might be better off giving up the idea of an expansive lawn. You’ll have less aggravation and a clearer conscience if you fill more of your yard with native trees, shrubs, and flowers, where the moles’ labours will be less visible. (Mole control, however, may be unavoidable on playing fields or dairy farms but, as I note in the article, the damage caused by moles has generally been overblown.)
What do you think? Would you kill a mole in your garden? Why or why not?
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Matthew Holmes
We’ll move the conversation above the line here on a bit shortly, but you can of course continue to discuss freedom of movement (or indeed pretty much anything else you wish) in the comments below. We’d also like suggestions on what it is you’d like us to focus on up here, so do let us know.
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Some strong views below the line on freedom of movement – perhaps as expected?Some strong views below the line on freedom of movement – perhaps as expected?
Why not? Theresa May has ignored and frankly betrayed most of the population of this country (yes, only a minority actually voted for Brexit - not counting all those who were not given a say). The EU, of which they are in fact citizens, should now protect them. If May wants to turn the UK into an offshore bargain basement tax haven under semi-authoritarian rule, we shouldn't be dragged down with her.Why not? Theresa May has ignored and frankly betrayed most of the population of this country (yes, only a minority actually voted for Brexit - not counting all those who were not given a say). The EU, of which they are in fact citizens, should now protect them. If May wants to turn the UK into an offshore bargain basement tax haven under semi-authoritarian rule, we shouldn't be dragged down with her.
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One reader has been looking elsewhere on the site at this piece about online trolls, and relates it to our question on freedom of movement.One reader has been looking elsewhere on the site at this piece about online trolls, and relates it to our question on freedom of movement.
Re: the online trolling article, can I just say I'm still reeling at the cognitive dissonance of the man who was against all immigration complaining about the bureaucratic hurdles and expense of bringing his Thai mail order bride to the UKRe: the online trolling article, can I just say I'm still reeling at the cognitive dissonance of the man who was against all immigration complaining about the bureaucratic hurdles and expense of bringing his Thai mail order bride to the UK
I think we can confidently put him down as a BrexiterI think we can confidently put him down as a Brexiter
There’s an accompanying film, which seems worth a watch. We’d be interested to know your thoughts should you give it a go.There’s an accompanying film, which seems worth a watch. We’d be interested to know your thoughts should you give it a go.
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Here are a couple of readers’ views on the freedom of movement story so far ... you can click the links to expand the conversation and respond.Here are a couple of readers’ views on the freedom of movement story so far ... you can click the links to expand the conversation and respond.
Brilliant news, but if it was up to me, those who voted for Brexit would not be allowed to retain any rights!! In essence, when they voted to 'leave' they voted to have them taken away, so why should they have the option now?Brilliant news, but if it was up to me, those who voted for Brexit would not be allowed to retain any rights!! In essence, when they voted to 'leave' they voted to have them taken away, so why should they have the option now?
And yes, I am bitter. All of this Brexit business is sheer madness!And yes, I am bitter. All of this Brexit business is sheer madness!
The problem for UK nationals like myself is not freedom to move about in Europe but to continue living in Germany or which ever state where people happen to reside. There are other questions like pensions for people who have paid into different schemes. At present such entitlements are dealt with by cross-crediting. If these agreements are stopped by the right-wing government in England there is not a lot UK expatriates can do about it.The problem for UK nationals like myself is not freedom to move about in Europe but to continue living in Germany or which ever state where people happen to reside. There are other questions like pensions for people who have paid into different schemes. At present such entitlements are dealt with by cross-crediting. If these agreements are stopped by the right-wing government in England there is not a lot UK expatriates can do about it.
British nationals residing outside the UK were not given a chance to vote to remain in the EU. Now I wonder why that is.British nationals residing outside the UK were not given a chance to vote to remain in the EU. Now I wonder why that is.
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Is it possible for Britons to keep freedom of movement?Is it possible for Britons to keep freedom of movement?
Jennifer RankinJennifer Rankin
The Guardian’s Brussels correspondent comments on news the European parliament’s chief Brexit representative wants British citizens to be able to choose to keep freedom of movement.The Guardian’s Brussels correspondent comments on news the European parliament’s chief Brexit representative wants British citizens to be able to choose to keep freedom of movement.
British citizens should be allowed to apply for associate EU citizenship after Brexit, according to the European parliament’s Brexit representative, Guy Verhofstadt. While the idea may be appealing for dejected remain voters, it faces huge hurdles to become reality. The EU’s 27 member states, who are in charge of Brexit talks, will not want to give benefits, such as free movement, to British citizens that are denied to their own nationals. The proposals would also require changing EU treaties, a fraught political task that will require the unanimous consent of EU governments and at least 35 national and regional parliaments.British citizens should be allowed to apply for associate EU citizenship after Brexit, according to the European parliament’s Brexit representative, Guy Verhofstadt. While the idea may be appealing for dejected remain voters, it faces huge hurdles to become reality. The EU’s 27 member states, who are in charge of Brexit talks, will not want to give benefits, such as free movement, to British citizens that are denied to their own nationals. The proposals would also require changing EU treaties, a fraught political task that will require the unanimous consent of EU governments and at least 35 national and regional parliaments.
What do our readers think about this? Share your views.What do our readers think about this? Share your views.
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Welcome to our socialWelcome to our social
Let’s get started with our weekly social. We have a lot of good stuff lined up for you, so look forward to chatting. If there’s anything you really want to talk about either let us know in the comments or email us: sarah.marsh@theguardian.com/ matthew.holmes@theguardian.comLet’s get started with our weekly social. We have a lot of good stuff lined up for you, so look forward to chatting. If there’s anything you really want to talk about either let us know in the comments or email us: sarah.marsh@theguardian.com/ matthew.holmes@theguardian.com
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