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Labor asks ministers about response to One Nation recording – question time live Labor targets bank tax and school funding in question time – politics live
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Tanya Plibersek is thrown out of the chamber. When Christopher Pyne rises, he says he is disappointed that Plibersek did not stay in the chamber, given she was going so well. Smirk.
Speaker Smith warns him he can arrange he goes out and continues the conversation with TPlibs. ie I will throw you out.
Pyne says no thanks even though TPlibs is good company.
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Plibersek to Turnbull: Given Victorian public schools face a $630m funding cut, according to the Victorian government’s own numbers, and with schools in Corangamite set to lose$12m over the next two years alone, how is this policy fair or needs-based?
Turnbull says year on year, the funding growth is going to be 4.6% in 2018, 4.6% in 2019, 4.6 in 2020 and 4.3% in 2021.
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Tanya Plibersek to Malcolm Turnbull: How is it fair or needs-based that in this budget Peel high school in the deputy prime minister’s electorate will lose $1.68m over the next two years while the Armidale School, with fees up to $20,000 per year, gets an extra $16.3m over the decade?
Turnbull says Peel high school will receive over 10 years $8.5m in additional funding. The funding per student from the commonwealth is estimated at $4,171 and by 2027, it will be $6,659.
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Ben Doherty
One Nation Senator Malcolm Roberts has arrived in estimates and asked the immigration department secretary Mike Pezzullo to provide details on the number of Muslims allowed entry into Australia.
Pezzullo, wiping his eyes, he has been before the the committee for about 17 hours now, promises to take it on notice. The department’s information on religion is incomplete.
The pair has a short tete a tete about Roberts’s use of the phrase of “indiscriminate” to describe Australia’s immigration policy. Pezzullo says the terminology he has used is “non-discriminatory”.
Roberts: “The overwhelming weight of terrorist acts are committed by people of the Islamic ideology.”
“I would put it slightly differently,” Pezzullo says, drawing a distinction between the religion of Islam and Islamist fundamentalism.
“Twenty years ago it was Irish, I might say,” Ian Macdonald chips in, terribly usefully.
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Shorten to Turnbull: I refer to S.674 of the Corporations Act and Australian stock exchange listing rule 3.1 which requires corporations to provide accurate updates to the stock exchange on matters which may affect their share price. Inconveniently the figures that the banks have nominated they will have to pay is less than the prime minister’s budget forecast. What is it prime minister? Are the budget numbers wrong, or are the banks lying?
Turnbull says Labor has to learn the difference between cash and accrual accounting.
I have never seen a more pathetic or confused attempt to try to throw dust in the obstacles in the way of the major bank levy. It may well be if the banks have a different view about it, different assumptions, they are entitled to express that.
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Bowen to Morrison: I refer the treasurer to his previous answer and I refer to Morgan Stanley’s note issued today which indicates the bank tax will raise $1bn in 2017-18. Given the government has gone from claiming it will raise $1.6bn yesterday by the prime minister to $1.2bn today by the treasurer, what will be the shortfall in the bank tax over the forward estimates?
Morrison says:
The banks and their advisers and their boards have all been provided with copies of the draft legislation and we have continued to consult with them over the course of the last week or so and that legislation will be introduced into this parliament during this sitting fortnight as I suggested.
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Bowen to Morrison: it refers to his previous answer which he claimed the relevant figure that will be raised by the bank tax is $1.2bn this year. If that is the case, why did the prime minister yesterday tell the house that the net revenue received by the commonwealth shown in the fiscal balance impact is $1.6bn? Why is this tax so poorly implemented and why is this government so incompetent?
Morrison repeats the cash and accrual figures. Then:
The shadow treasurer has gone out to some accountant’s picnic and thinks somehow he has come back with some clever observation. All I know that the shadow treasurer is doing is running the lines of the banks. I don’t know how many bank executives you met with in the last couple of weeks?
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Chris Bowen to Scott Morrison: The Budget forecasts that the bank tax will raise $1.6bn in its first year. The big four banks have reported it will cost them just $965m after tax in the first year. Does the Treasurer stand by the forecast for the bank tax in the Budget which he brought down just two weeks ago? Chris Bowen to Scott Morrison: The budget forecasts that the bank tax will raise $1.6bn in its first year. The big four banks have reported it will cost them just $965m after tax in the first year. Does the treasurer stand by the forecast for the bank tax in the budget which he brought down just two weeks ago?
Scott Morrison does stand by them.Scott Morrison does stand by them.
I do.I do.
The cash gross estimate for 17/18 is $1.2bn. The cash gross estimate for 2017-18 is $1.2bn.
The accrual figure is $1.6bn.The accrual figure is $1.6bn.
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The next government question is to social services minister Christian Porter on the Medicare rise to fund the NDIS.The next government question is to social services minister Christian Porter on the Medicare rise to fund the NDIS.
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Bob Katter asks energy and environment minister Josh Frydenberg if he will meet with the Queensland Labor government and get the Adani agreements sorted out, lest 500 million Indians go without lights and the world suffers as low grade Indian coal and cheap technology belches eruptions of CO2. Bob Katter asks the energy and environment minister, Josh Frydenberg, if he will meet with the Queensland Labor government and get the Adani agreements sorted out, lest 500 million Indians go without lights and the world suffer as low grade Indian coal and cheap technology belches eruptions of CO2.
Frydenberg uses it to attack Bill Shorten and the Labor Herbert MP Cathy O’Toole, whom he said met with Adani representatives when they announced Townsville would be the head office for the coal mine. Frydenberg uses it to attack Bill Shorten and the Labor Herbert MP Cathy O’Toole, who he said met with Adani representatives when they announced Townsville would be the head office for the coalmine.
There’s some 11% unemployment in Townsville. Youth unemployment is some double that. And the Member forHerbert has now gone quiet. And so with the Leader of the Opposition. The Leader of the Opposition goes to Townsville and says he’s all for jobs and he’s all for apprentices. But when he goes to the rest of the country he says it’s too hard. There’s some 11% unemployment in Townsville. Youth unemployment is some double that. And the member for Herbert has now gone quiet. And so with the leader of the opposition. The leader of the opposition goes to Townsville and says he’s all for jobs and he’s all for apprentices. But when he goes to the rest of the country, he says it’s too hard.
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Shorten to Turnbull: I refer to the bank tax which Labor will not stand in the way of. But I note concerns, reported in today’s media, there is a $2bn hole in the government’s bank tax. Does the PM stand by the forecasts on the bank tax. What it will raise in the budget, a budget handed down two weeks ago. Or is his budget already falling apart?Shorten to Turnbull: I refer to the bank tax which Labor will not stand in the way of. But I note concerns, reported in today’s media, there is a $2bn hole in the government’s bank tax. Does the PM stand by the forecasts on the bank tax. What it will raise in the budget, a budget handed down two weeks ago. Or is his budget already falling apart?
Turnbull does not address any budget hole but rather accuses Labor of walking away from its commitments to the NDIS.Turnbull does not address any budget hole but rather accuses Labor of walking away from its commitments to the NDIS.
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Dreyfus tries again. To Turnbull, Yesterday the PM undertook to report to the House after he had taken advice from theCommissioner of the AustralianFederal Police, the Minister for Justice and the Attorney-General about revelations of One Nation irregularities. What can the PM report? Dreyfus tries again. To Turnbull, yesterday the PM undertook to report to the House after he had taken advice from the commissioner of the Australian federal police, the minister for justice and the attorney general about revelations of One Nation irregularities. What can the PM report?
Turnbull says the One Nation matter (in the Ashby tapes) has been referred to the AFP so it would be inappropriate to comment.Turnbull says the One Nation matter (in the Ashby tapes) has been referred to the AFP so it would be inappropriate to comment.
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Coalition asks a question on funding the National Disability Insurance Scheme.Coalition asks a question on funding the National Disability Insurance Scheme.
It is a chance to attack Shorten on the NDIS. Malcolm Turnbull:It is a chance to attack Shorten on the NDIS. Malcolm Turnbull:
Only yesterday, as he endeavoured to justify defying the wishes of the majority of his own Shadow Cabinet, defying the advice of his own colleagues to support the government’s decision to increase the Medicare levy by 50 basis points, instead of supporting that he’s wanted to differentiate himself and play the old politics to which he is so accustomed nowadays. Only yesterday, as he endeavoured to justify defying the wishes of the majority of his own shadow cabinet, defying the advice of his own colleagues to support the government’s decision to increase the Medicare levy by 50 basis points, instead of supporting that he’s wanted to differentiate himself and play the old politics to which he is so accustomed nowadays.
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Labor opens question time on One Nation.Labor opens question time on One Nation.
Mark Dreyfus to Malcolm Turnbull: This year there have been allegations that One Nation failed to declare the donation of $100,000 plane, adopted a constitution which breached electoral laws and conspired to defraud electoral authorities. When allegations against One Nation have been mounting for months, why is it that when Labor raised this issue yesterday, the PM had taken no action? Is the PM dragging his heels because he is more interested in One Nation preferences?Mark Dreyfus to Malcolm Turnbull: This year there have been allegations that One Nation failed to declare the donation of $100,000 plane, adopted a constitution which breached electoral laws and conspired to defraud electoral authorities. When allegations against One Nation have been mounting for months, why is it that when Labor raised this issue yesterday, the PM had taken no action? Is the PM dragging his heels because he is more interested in One Nation preferences?
Speaker Smith does not allow the question in that form and there is no opportunity to rephrase. The Coalition gets the first question.Speaker Smith does not allow the question in that form and there is no opportunity to rephrase. The Coalition gets the first question.
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Malcolm Turnbull:Malcolm Turnbull:
This incident, this attack, is especially vile especially criminal, especially horrific because it appears to have been deliberately directed at teenagers. This is an attack on innocence. Surely there is no crime more reprehensible than the murder of children. This is a direct and brutal attack on young people everywhere, on freedom everywhere.This incident, this attack, is especially vile especially criminal, especially horrific because it appears to have been deliberately directed at teenagers. This is an attack on innocence. Surely there is no crime more reprehensible than the murder of children. This is a direct and brutal attack on young people everywhere, on freedom everywhere.
Bill Shorten:Bill Shorten:
What makes this different to a casualty on a battlefield is that you think when your kids go to listen to music, they would be safe. My eldest two are teenagers, they go to concerts, like so many here and so many elsewhere. When you see that shaky iPhone footage on that relentless 24-hour coverage, you see so many young people.What makes this different to a casualty on a battlefield is that you think when your kids go to listen to music, they would be safe. My eldest two are teenagers, they go to concerts, like so many here and so many elsewhere. When you see that shaky iPhone footage on that relentless 24-hour coverage, you see so many young people.
They’re dressed to go out to a concert, to dance, to listen to music. And I can only begin to imagine the pain of parents wondering where their kids are when the first reports come out and the first texts and they realise that their family, their kids are at this concert. And I can only begin to dimly imagine the parents whose calls are being unanswered and the messages go through to that voicemail. And then I also think today - how do I explain this to my own kids? They’re dressed to go out to a concert, to dance, to listen to music. And I can only begin to imagine the pain of parents wondering where their kids are when the first reports come out and the first texts and they realise that their family, their kids are at this concert. And I can only begin to dimly imagine the parents whose calls are being unanswered and the messages go through to that voicemail. And then I also think today how do I explain this to my own kids?
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Both the prime minister and the opposition leader are speaking on the Manchester explosion.
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Re the use of acting deputy prime minister by Fiona Nash, someone has been busy...
Here are all the times that acting deputy prime minister have been used.
Arthur Calwell, Member for Melbourne, VIC (QT on 28 April 1950): “I direct a question to the acting deputy Prime Minister.” -http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/genpdf/hansard80/hansardr80/1950-04-28/0009/hansard_frag.pdf;fileType=application%2Fpdf
[Arthur Calwell was a Labor politician]
Senator Don Farrell (Senate Chamber Speech on 12 December 2013): “What also amazed me yesterday, when it was clear that there was a serious issue here in that Prime Minister Abbott had not contacted the company, was what the Acting Prime Minister or the acting Deputy Prime Minister—I am not sure what he was—Minister Truss did.” - http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/genpdf/chamber/hansards/8c194fbe-dfed-4da6-82c2-d9a2425960e0/0213/hansard_frag.pdf;fileType=application%2Fpdf
John Howard as Leader of the Opposition (Press Conference on 15 November 1995): “It is Jennie George who is the acting deputy Prime Minister of Australia and this idea that in some way it is a cook up between the Liberal Party and CRA is absolute nonsense.” - http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/download/media/pressrel/HPR02010440/upload_binary/HPR02010440.pdf;fileType=application/pdf#search=%22acting%20deputy%20prime%20minister%22
[Jennie George was a Labor politician in the Keating Government]
Charles Webb, Member for Stirling, WA (QT on 28 May 1968): “My question is directed to the Treasurer, or should I say to the Acting Deputy Prime Minister twice removed…” - http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/genpdf/hansard80/hansardr80/1968-05-28/0045/hansard_frag.pdf;fileType=application%2Fpdf
[Charles Webb was a Labor politician]
Fred Daly, Member for Grayndler, NSW (QT on 5 October 1960): “…will the right honourable gentleman inform the House whether there is now an acting leader of the Parliamentary Liberal Party, acting as Acting Deputy Prime Minister, or whether the Parliament is now subject to a take-over by the Australian Country Party?” - http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/genpdf/hansard80/hansardr80/1960-10-05/0037/hansard_frag.pdf;fileType=application%2Fpdf
[Fred Daly was a Labor politician]
Keating believes Howard was wrong to send Australian troops to Iraq in support of the US invasion. He recalls being acting deputy prime minister when George Bush snr called to ask Australia for help in the first Gulf War of 1991. “Bob Hawke and I were the first two people in the world to join the Americans in that coalition, ahead of the British and ahead of the Canadians, because Saddam Hussein invaded a sovereign country,” he says. - http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/The-prime-minister-we-had-to-have/2005/05/27/1117129901088.html
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We are coming to the Human Ken Doll in estimates.
.@kimbakit asking #estimates about the Prime Minister's #budget2017 function
.@kimbakit asking about who decides the guest list of #Budget2017 night parties... pic.twitter.com/YrvlpzIo6A
Question time coming up people.
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Eric Abetz is taking issue with the department of prime minister and cabinet on the anthem over some correspondence over the national anthem.
Essentially, a group of people took it upon themselves to rewrite Advance Australia Fair which strips out the words offensive to Indigenous people.
Here is a Courier Mail’s take:
Victorian Supreme Court judge Peter Vickery, via the Recognition in Anthem Project, changed the second line of verse one from, For we are young and free to In peace and harmony. The revision acknow­ledges Indigenous culture.
He has also written 10 new lyrics for a third verse, which makes mention of Dreamtime, Uluru and respecting country.
Because the Commonwealth owns the copyright, Justice Vickery, who is also a poet, wrote to Mr Turnbull asking if he could make the changes in his campaign to overhaul ­Advance Australia Fair.
Justice Vickery said the project, which he had undertaken as a private citizen, planned to embark on a process to consult with Australians to gain support for the changes.
“Many Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people find the words For we are young and free hurtful and offensive, and find it difficult – if not impossible – to stand or sing the anthem with these words,” he said.
The PM said yeah, nah.
Prime Minister and Cabinet Assistant Secretary Peter Rush responded on behalf of Mr Turnbull earlier this year, advising Justice Vickery, “I appreciate the effort and intent of your thoughtful and creative proposals for changes to the anthem.
“It would not be appropriate for alternative versions of Advance Australia Fair to be presented as the Australian national anthem, which should be performed as proclaimed.
“However, there may be occasions when your version of Advance Australia Fair could be performed as a patriotic song.
#estimates is now debating whether or not Australia a "young" country. It's in relation to national anthem " we are young and free"
Quickly reaching peak #estimates here. Brandis takes issue with the idea Aus is young, given we are one of the oldest democracies ...
Abetz wants reassurances that the anthem will not be changed.
He also wants to know the definition of a patriotic song.
Staff assure him there is no suggestion of changing the anthem.
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All hands on all the tillers, and coalmines
Katharine Murphy
Government MPs have gathered for their regular Tuesday party room festival of fellowship. Perhaps things were jolly because the meeting was short. There’s lots on around the building today, and the Senators are detained in various estimates committees.
The prime minister addressed colleagues. Malcolm Turnbull thought the budget had been well received and he told colleagues to get the word out. Like, now. Get out and sell the budget, was the advice. Turnbull referenced the stand off between Catholic education and the government about Gonski 2.0. Again, the prime minister thought everything would be fine if people would get those budget facts out. Turnbull thought voters wondered these days whether governments ever followed through with things – hence all the follow-through. Follow through, people.
The deputy prime minister, Barnaby Joyce, was also heavily into follow-through on the budget. True to form, he was also 100% behind the Adani project. The coalmine would mean jobs, jobs, jobs. It also meant split, split, split with the ALP. Queensland Labor was divided, Joyce noted, in Canberra, Bill Shorten was “silent” – and the Labor party needed to decide quick sticks whether it supported “jobs for working Australians”.
The deputy Liberal leader, Julie Bishop, spoke of a recent trip to Wagga, which was apparently about making foreign affairs less ... foreign. This seems like quite an ambitious task, just quietly, but who are we to judge?
When the great ones finished their various summations, five government MPs (four Queensland one NSW) backed in Joyce’s feelings about the Adani project. This needed to happen, and the government had to stump up $1bn through the Northern Australia Infrastructure Facility to fund it. One other MP made positive noises about how the budget had been received locally.
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From our friends at AAP.
A senior bureaucrat says there is no position of “acting deputy prime minister” despite the title having been used a number of times by Nationals deputy leader Fiona Nash.
When Malcolm Turnbull is overseas, the position of acting prime minister is filled by Nationals leader Barnaby Joyce.
During these times, Nash has issued media releases using the title “acting deputy prime minister”.
Labor senator Penny Wong asked officials from the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet on Tuesday whether it was standard practice to appoint an acting deputy PM.
“No,” replied DPMC deputy secretary Elizabeth Kelly.
Two other ministers were next in seniority to Joyce – the attorney general and the foreign minister.
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Lunch time politics
Malcolm Turnbull and Bill Shorten have commemorated 20 years since the Bringing Them Home report, again apologising to the Indigenous children taken from their parents.
Labor retains its lead over the Coalition 53-46 on a two party preferred basis.
Former senator Rod Culleton is in the parliament agitating for the Senate to force Brandis to explain his referral of Culleton’s election to the high court, which subsequently ruled his election invalid.
Education minister Simon Birmingham said he is not for turning, going back to existing school funding deals favouring some sectors over others. He was looking at sections of the Catholic education system, some of which claim it is unfair to that sector.
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In the House, the first debate is on the fair work amendment (corrupting benefits) bill that criminalises payments to unions in return for trading worker pay and conditions.
Labor’s employment shadow, Brendan O’Connor, wants to amend the bill:
Whilst not declining to give the bill a second reading, the House calls on the government to:
(1) abandon its support of the decision of the Fair Work Commission to cut penalty rates because it will mean nearly 700,000 Australians will have their take-home pay cut by up to $77 a week; and
(2) legislate to prevent the decision from taking effect to stop Australians from having their penalty rates cut.
Greens MP Adam Bandt wants to amend the bill:
The bill contains some improvements to the existing law, they are not enough and the House declines to give the bill a second reading and calls on the government to establish a national independent commission against corruption.
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@SenatorAbetz this is you pic.twitter.com/xDqoGh7Inn
Get a hobby, Eric. https://t.co/gpGqrGPXva