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Greens to oppose Coalition's citizenship crackdown – politics live Labor tries to stop Fair Work Commission from cutting penalty rates – politics live
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The lower house has put off the suspension vote until later in the day.
The senate voted to disallow the regulation relating to medicinal cannabis.
Bear with me, I am trying to interpret the double negatives to explain what it will mean in practice.
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So, to be clear, we have competing suspensions of both the lower house (on penalty rates) and the Senate (on medicinal cannabis).
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In the Senate there is also a suspension of standing orders over medicinal cannabis.
It is all breaking loose here.
It is over an old vote, which would have made medicinal cannabis easier to get. The vote went down, much to the pleasure of the Coalition.
At the time, Jacqui Lambie missed the vote but there was some reporting that she did so purposely because there was doubt over the measure.
The Greens want the vote taken again in line with longstanding Senate practice that votes should not be decided by misadventure.
The government is having no bar of it and the communications minister, Mitch Fifield, says there were plenty of other opportunities to redo the vote in the meantime – opportunities Lambie did not take.
So the Greens suspended standing orders to get a disallowance vote – which would overturn that vote.
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Labor’s Tony Burke is the second speaker on the suspension of standing orders.
He says the Turnbull government wants to stand by the Fair Work Commission’s decision to cut some penalty rates because it agrees with that decision.
Burke says while ordinary workers will get a pay cut as a result, the government stands by its decision to “give millionaires a pay rise” by removing the temporary deficit levy.
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Labor is now moving to suspend standing orders to get its bill debated to amend the Fair Work Act 2009, which would stop the Fair Work Commission from cutting penalties.
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Bill Shorten also underlines the ongoing debate in the ranks of parts of the Coalition backbench regarding Islamist terrorism.
The wisdom of [former Asio director general] David Irvine is always worth repeating at any discussion of national security. The tiny number of violent extremists does not represent the Islamic communities of Australia. We are talking about a few hundred abhorrent souls in a community of nearly 500,000.
Muslims see themselves as a committed component of Australia’s multicultural community. Our fight is with terrorism, not with Islam or with our Muslim community. The strongest defence against terrorism lies within the Australian Muslim community itself.
With that, his speech ends but we have clearer idea of where Labor stands on the specific changes in proposed citizenship bill, which has yet to be introduced to parliament.
Labor wants to see the details before committing.
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Bill Shorten backs the need to ensure that we cannot rely on self policing for tech giants like Facebook.Bill Shorten backs the need to ensure that we cannot rely on self policing for tech giants like Facebook.
He says government agencies also need resources to stop cyber attacks on Australian businesses.He says government agencies also need resources to stop cyber attacks on Australian businesses.
This is, of course, a difficult and complex area and there are two things we simply don’t know enough to deal with properly - I refer to the use of the digital currency bitcoin and the use of the dark web. A network of untraceable online activities and hidden websites, allowing those who wish to stay in the shadows to remain hidden. Terrorists are increasingly using this network to avoid detection, conduct planning and acquire capability and tools to carry out their evil actions. We must target this threat head-on.This is, of course, a difficult and complex area and there are two things we simply don’t know enough to deal with properly - I refer to the use of the digital currency bitcoin and the use of the dark web. A network of untraceable online activities and hidden websites, allowing those who wish to stay in the shadows to remain hidden. Terrorists are increasingly using this network to avoid detection, conduct planning and acquire capability and tools to carry out their evil actions. We must target this threat head-on.
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The Coalition party room’s Finkel discussion has broken for a second instalment at a later time in the day yet to be announced.The Coalition party room’s Finkel discussion has broken for a second instalment at a later time in the day yet to be announced.
An ominous sign, given the last time it happened was the marathon meeting on marriage equality.An ominous sign, given the last time it happened was the marathon meeting on marriage equality.
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Bill Shorten is up now.Bill Shorten is up now.
He is speaking about the victims and it is worth a quote at length, (as a mother whose daughter has recently returned from OS.)He is speaking about the victims and it is worth a quote at length, (as a mother whose daughter has recently returned from OS.)
We produce bold and resilient young people. The kind of people who run towards danger, bravely, without a second thought for themselves. People with the courage and character to make lives away from this country to achieve great things in other lands while always holding Australia in their heart.We produce bold and resilient young people. The kind of people who run towards danger, bravely, without a second thought for themselves. People with the courage and character to make lives away from this country to achieve great things in other lands while always holding Australia in their heart.
And, whether it’s years or decades later, they come home. As Clive James has said, “The same abundance of natural blessings that gave us the energy to leave has every right to call us back.”And, whether it’s years or decades later, they come home. As Clive James has said, “The same abundance of natural blessings that gave us the energy to leave has every right to call us back.”
But because of a vicious act of violent cowardice, a lightning strike of terror, Kirsty and Sara will never come home. They’re not going to walk through the sliding doors at the airport arrivals, embrace the loved ones who they’ve missed and missed them.But because of a vicious act of violent cowardice, a lightning strike of terror, Kirsty and Sara will never come home. They’re not going to walk through the sliding doors at the airport arrivals, embrace the loved ones who they’ve missed and missed them.
Instead, their families are left with the last conversation forever unfinished. Perhaps a cheery message about the night ahead, a friendly update from home. A routine exchange, an old joke or two and the things that we all say as parents – take care of yourself, have fun, we love you.Instead, their families are left with the last conversation forever unfinished. Perhaps a cheery message about the night ahead, a friendly update from home. A routine exchange, an old joke or two and the things that we all say as parents – take care of yourself, have fun, we love you.
Never truly knowing the weight of those words until they’re the last ones that we share with the most precious things in our lives. No matter how much they grow up, they’re always your daughter or your son, your life.Never truly knowing the weight of those words until they’re the last ones that we share with the most precious things in our lives. No matter how much they grow up, they’re always your daughter or your son, your life.
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Turnbull notes that George Brandis will meet with the Five Eyes to discuss digital security.Turnbull notes that George Brandis will meet with the Five Eyes to discuss digital security.
This is not about creating or exploiting back doors, as some privacy advocates continue to say, despite constant reassurance from us. It is about collaboration with and assistance from industry in the pursuit of public safety.This is not about creating or exploiting back doors, as some privacy advocates continue to say, despite constant reassurance from us. It is about collaboration with and assistance from industry in the pursuit of public safety.
But democracy must be safeguarded ...But democracy must be safeguarded ...
While there is currently no higher priority than defeating Islamist terrorism, our interests are also directly threatened by attempts by foreign states to compromise the integrity of our democratic institutions and processes. We should all guard jealously the principles of democracy that we practise here in this place.While there is currently no higher priority than defeating Islamist terrorism, our interests are also directly threatened by attempts by foreign states to compromise the integrity of our democratic institutions and processes. We should all guard jealously the principles of democracy that we practise here in this place.
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Turnbull moves from boat policy and on to social media platforms, previewing the government’s plans (reported earlier) on encryption platforms.
Not so long ago, only states and large corporations had megaphones powerful enough to address a nation. Now a tweet or a YouTube video can reach millions, if not billions, and do so in seconds ...
The first iPhone was launched in 2007. Facebook with 1.5bn accounts worldwide began in a Harvard dorm in 2004 and it has 200 million accounts in India and 100 million in Indonesia alone.
But these remarkable technologies are also being used by those who seek to do us harm. We need even stronger cooperation from the big social media and messaging platforms in the fight against terrorism and the extremism which spawns it.
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Malcolm Turnbull turns to the citizenship changes coming this week.
We are introducing legislation to change our visa and citizenship requirements to ensure that new members of our society will embrace our values and positively contribute to our Australian society, regardless of background or religious belief.
He urges Labor to support the bill.
Turnbull says Australia is the most successful multicultural country in the world.
We must not take that success for granted. There is no more important title in our democracy than Australian citizen and we should make no apology for asking those who seek to join our Australian family to join us as Australian patriots committed to the values that define us committed to the values that unite us.
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So far the statement has reviewed previous initiatives, including national security reviews and Australian efforts in the Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Katharine Murphy has previewed this statement here.
He begins remembering the loss of four Australians killed in terrorist attacks in the last few weeks, including Zynab Al Harbiya, the 12-year-old girl who was killed in Iraq, Kirsty Boden and Sara Zelenak, who were killed in London, and Kai Hao, who was killed in Melbourne.
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Patriot Games at 12pm in the chamber.
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Caucus has just broken and there are a couple of points that Gareth Hutchens will bring shortly.
We have no clearer steer on reported Labor plans to water down the citizenship laws, though Bill Shorten was part of a conversation which noted the prime minister’s call to “join us as patriots” and was critical of its use by white supremacists.
(This post has been amended).
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The prime minister is speaking at an event to back Australia’s bid for the 2023 women’s football World Cup, doing the rah rah for the Matildas and women’s sport in general.
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I have been riffing on Gday Patriots all morning, waiting for the spectacular entry of the authors of the terrific podcast on American politics to take the stage.
Gday Patriots is billed as the Biglyest Australian look at US Politics, by friends of the blog - @cjjosh, @willozap, @jcnerd & @rodl with sound engineering by @creogg.
Here they are...
Hey @GdayPatriots, the @GuardianAus is messing with our brand! pic.twitter.com/4k1ueXeYmK
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Greens partyroom: no to citizenship, maybe to Finkel, mum on Gonski
Paul Karp
The Greens party room has discussed donations and lobbying, terrorism and citizenship and the Finkel review.
On donations and lobbying, the Greens have signalled they will introduce a private members’ bill to create a lobbying commissioner to investigate whether rules are being breached on lobbying; to extend scrutiny to in-house lobbyists at big companies and not just those employed by specialist third-party lobbying firms; and to introduce sanctions for breaches of rules.
On citizenship, although legislation for Peter Dutton’s latest proposed crackdown has not been released, the Greens have already resolved to oppose it. The Greens have received reports of cancelled citizenship ceremonies, and they fear some current applicants who would qualify under old rules will miss out when the waiting time is extended from one year to four, and higher English language requirements are introduced.
The Greens questioned why Labor had yet to make their mind up on the legislation and why the government had kept public submissions to its inquiry confidential.
On the Finkel review, the Greens are concerned that the emissions limit could see subsidies go to gas power, and if the emissions targets are set by the Council of Australian Governments it could be very difficult to scale up.
The Gonski 2.0 schools funding plan was also discussed, although the Greens will not discuss their position until after a Senate report is released on Wednesday.
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Shortly we will know what happened in the caucus meeting this morning but Andrew Tillett of the Fin is reporting that Labor will try to water down key elements of the bill.
Negotiations are expected to focus on specific details, such as reducing the four-year waiting time and making the language requirement less strict, rather than trying to killing off the concept.
Generally Labor has tried to provide a level of bipartisanship on national security legislation so this would be an interesting development.