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Coalition appears to have numbers to pass Gonski 2.0 bill in Senate – question time live Coalition appears to have numbers to pass Gonski 2.0 bill in Senate – question time live
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Shorten to Turnbull: This morning it is reported that a Liberal Party member and a mother of a child at Corpus Christi said “I can’t begin to describe how disappointed I am with the government right now, that we are being hung out the dry by our own MPs. Why is the Prime Minister hanging the parents of school children out to dry just because they choose to send their children to a Catholic primary school?
Turnbull says the Catholic sector will see a substantial increase in funding over 10 years - $81bn or an increase of $3.4bn in total.
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Plibersek to Turnbull: On Monday in Question Time the Prime Minister claimed funding for students with a disability in Tasmania would not be cut by one-third or $12 million in2018. Yesterday the Prime Minister again refused to admit he was cutting their funding. Has the Prime Minister now seen this answer to a question on notice issued by his own education department which confirms his cut? Will the Prime Minister now admit that he mislead the House on Monday, or is he so arrogant that he can’t admit he got it wrong?
Turnbull says under Gonski 2.0, the funding loading for disabled kids will change. Previously students with disabilities were funded at the same rate no matter what their level of disability.
Now there will be three different loadings from:
supplementary: 42% in primary, 33% in secondary.
substantial: 146% in primary, 116% in secondary.
extensive: 312% in primary, 240% in secondary.
It is a nationally consistent measure and what it means is that more students in Tasmania and across the country will be receiving supplementary support.
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Shorten to Turnbull: A press release by the National Catholic Education Commission this afternoon calls on senators to vote against the plan that will not deliver needs-based funding. Why is this prime minister punishing parents who choose to give their children a Catholic education with this rushed legislation? Why won’t he take it back to the drawing board and start again?
Josh Frydenberg takes the question and goes over the same ground.
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Labor to Turnbull: According to the National Catholic Education Commission St Theresa’s Catholic Primary School in the electorate of Corangamite will have to increase its fees by as much as $2,841 because of the Prime Minister’s $4. 6bn cut to Catholic schools. Why is the prime minister making parents of Catholic school children pay more while giving millionaires a tax cut in just 10 days’ time?
Turnbull accuses Labor of mocking children.
Not sure how we got there ...
But what is interesting is the PM is still using the $18bn of additional funding over the decade – which was the original bill.
The Greens and the crossbench were negotiating more money at a faster rate, some $5bn on top of the $18bn. It may be that the extra funding needs to be ticked off by the expenditure review committee. Or maybe there is something different in the compromise package.
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So the questions are going back and forth on school funding.
Then Christopher Pyne takes a question on the CFMEU official John Setka, which was covered earlier.
Pyne contrasts Anthony Albanese’s condemnation with Shorten’s comments.
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Indi MP Cathy McGowan asks Darren Chester: In 2016 the government commissioned an independent review of the Regional Development Australia program to make recommendations on the future scope, structure and delivery model of RDAs. I understand that the government received the final report after the independent reviewer, Warwick Smith, in January. Minister, RDAs have the ability to play a crucial part in the inquiry into the regional development and decentralisation, which has been undertaken by theHouse of Representatives, but to do this they need certainty about their future. Minister, can you tell the House when will the government release this report, provide certainty to the RDAs.Indi MP Cathy McGowan asks Darren Chester: In 2016 the government commissioned an independent review of the Regional Development Australia program to make recommendations on the future scope, structure and delivery model of RDAs. I understand that the government received the final report after the independent reviewer, Warwick Smith, in January. Minister, RDAs have the ability to play a crucial part in the inquiry into the regional development and decentralisation, which has been undertaken by theHouse of Representatives, but to do this they need certainty about their future. Minister, can you tell the House when will the government release this report, provide certainty to the RDAs.
Chester says the minister has received the report and the government is considering its options. He does not say when it will be released.Chester says the minister has received the report and the government is considering its options. He does not say when it will be released.
Chester tells her to get on board with the Coalition.Chester tells her to get on board with the Coalition.
You have to pick a team.You have to pick a team.
Note to Chester: McGowan is an independent.Note to Chester: McGowan is an independent.
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Labor to the PM: Data released by the New South Wales government show that because of the prime minister’s $22 bn cut to schools in the electorate of Gilmore over the next two years, over $1.3 m will be cut from Nowra East public school, and over $890,000 will be cut from Sanctuary Point public school. Has the member for Gilmore made any representations at all to the prime minister about these cuts to schools in her electorate?Labor to the PM: Data released by the New South Wales government show that because of the prime minister’s $22 bn cut to schools in the electorate of Gilmore over the next two years, over $1.3 m will be cut from Nowra East public school, and over $890,000 will be cut from Sanctuary Point public school. Has the member for Gilmore made any representations at all to the prime minister about these cuts to schools in her electorate?
Speaker Tony Smith rules it out of order.Speaker Tony Smith rules it out of order.
I’m ruling that question out of order. I will say it is very clearly out of order, because the prime minister is not responsible for the statements of other members. Whether they have made representations or not.I’m ruling that question out of order. I will say it is very clearly out of order, because the prime minister is not responsible for the statements of other members. Whether they have made representations or not.
Labor rephrases the question to end with, what would the prime minister say to the parents of the students in those schools about these cuts?Labor rephrases the question to end with, what would the prime minister say to the parents of the students in those schools about these cuts?
That question is in order and the PM says all schools in the electorate of Gilmore will receive more money.That question is in order and the PM says all schools in the electorate of Gilmore will receive more money.
Turnbull says parents deserve to know whether the money is there in the budget.Turnbull says parents deserve to know whether the money is there in the budget.
It is committed and it’s paid for and it’s in the budget. We’ve done that. We have done the hard yards.It is committed and it’s paid for and it’s in the budget. We’ve done that. We have done the hard yards.
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The latest wrap on Gonski 2.0 from Paul Karp.The latest wrap on Gonski 2.0 from Paul Karp.
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Shorten to Turnbull: When will the prime minister simply withdraw this rushed legislation, go back to the drawing board, and stop $22 bn worth of cuts to schools?Shorten to Turnbull: When will the prime minister simply withdraw this rushed legislation, go back to the drawing board, and stop $22 bn worth of cuts to schools?
Turnbull says the $22bn was funny money.Turnbull says the $22bn was funny money.
It was never, ever paid for. And every member of the Gillard government at the time knew that. It was a parting shot. A parting shot nobody in the schools sector – Catholic, independent or public school sector – ever believed.It was never, ever paid for. And every member of the Gillard government at the time knew that. It was a parting shot. A parting shot nobody in the schools sector – Catholic, independent or public school sector – ever believed.
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Plibersek to Turnbull: In the prime minister’s Closing the Gap report this year, the prime minister appears in a photo at Fregon school in the remote APY lands. Can the prime minister confirm that Fregon school will lose over $100,000 next year compared to actual funding it received in 2015? Why use these kids for a photo opportunity and then cut funding to their school?Plibersek to Turnbull: In the prime minister’s Closing the Gap report this year, the prime minister appears in a photo at Fregon school in the remote APY lands. Can the prime minister confirm that Fregon school will lose over $100,000 next year compared to actual funding it received in 2015? Why use these kids for a photo opportunity and then cut funding to their school?
Turnbull says the teachers in the APY lands are doing an amazing job.Turnbull says the teachers in the APY lands are doing an amazing job.
My government is providing more funding to support schools and particularly children in remote areas, Indigenous students, than ever before.My government is providing more funding to support schools and particularly children in remote areas, Indigenous students, than ever before.
He commits to reporting to her later in QT.He commits to reporting to her later in QT.
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Baby Alina, in time for the Gonski 2.0 debate. Baby Alia, in time for the Gonski 2.0 debate.
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Question time coming up people.Question time coming up people.
In the meantime, Labor MP Pat Conroy is brandishing the parliamentary state of origin touch footy game this morning. He commends small biz minister Michael McCormack for side stepping Pauline Hanson to score a try. He also notes that he is (NOT) too modest to say that he scored a try past Barnaby Joyce. NSW beat Queensland 9-4.In the meantime, Labor MP Pat Conroy is brandishing the parliamentary state of origin touch footy game this morning. He commends small biz minister Michael McCormack for side stepping Pauline Hanson to score a try. He also notes that he is (NOT) too modest to say that he scored a try past Barnaby Joyce. NSW beat Queensland 9-4.
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Lunchtime politicsLunchtime politics
Paul KarpPaul Karp
The Turnbull government has won widespread crossbench support for its schools package in a Senate vote after making concessions, including a purported promise that Catholic schools will not have their funding growth cut pending a review.The Turnbull government has won widespread crossbench support for its schools package in a Senate vote after making concessions, including a purported promise that Catholic schools will not have their funding growth cut pending a review.
Concessions to the Nick Xenophon Team and Jacqui Lambie, as described by those senators, include the creation of a national schools resource body, delivering the package in six years not 10 with an extra $4.9bn in funding; compelling the states to increase their funding; and preserving the status quo for Catholic schools for 12 to 18 months.Concessions to the Nick Xenophon Team and Jacqui Lambie, as described by those senators, include the creation of a national schools resource body, delivering the package in six years not 10 with an extra $4.9bn in funding; compelling the states to increase their funding; and preserving the status quo for Catholic schools for 12 to 18 months.
Early on Wednesday afternoon the government won a vote at the second reading stage of the bill with the support of One Nation, NXT, Lambie, Derryn Hinch and Lucy Gichuhi.Early on Wednesday afternoon the government won a vote at the second reading stage of the bill with the support of One Nation, NXT, Lambie, Derryn Hinch and Lucy Gichuhi.
If those 10 crossbench senators continue to vote with the government, the bill can be passed without the Greens, who have been dealing extensively with the government but have not concluded a final position and voted against the move to bring on the second reading.If those 10 crossbench senators continue to vote with the government, the bill can be passed without the Greens, who have been dealing extensively with the government but have not concluded a final position and voted against the move to bring on the second reading.
If the Senate grouping holds, education minister Simon Birmingham will have crafted a package that addresses retiring Western Australian senator Chris Back’s concerns for the Catholic sector, and avoids the added difficulty in the Coalition partyroom of being seen to deal with the Greens.If the Senate grouping holds, education minister Simon Birmingham will have crafted a package that addresses retiring Western Australian senator Chris Back’s concerns for the Catholic sector, and avoids the added difficulty in the Coalition partyroom of being seen to deal with the Greens.
Chief scientist Alan Finkel has refused to buy into whether the Coalition should in invest in new coal facilities.Chief scientist Alan Finkel has refused to buy into whether the Coalition should in invest in new coal facilities.
Both Anthony Albanese and Bill Shorten have distanced themselves from a CFMEU officials alleged threat involving Australian Building and Construction Commission inspectors and their families. Albanese said it was appropriate that the matter was referred to the police.Both Anthony Albanese and Bill Shorten have distanced themselves from a CFMEU officials alleged threat involving Australian Building and Construction Commission inspectors and their families. Albanese said it was appropriate that the matter was referred to the police.
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Over to chief scientist Alan Finkel because there is just not enough going on in the building ...Over to chief scientist Alan Finkel because there is just not enough going on in the building ...
The full speech is here.The full speech is here.
Katharine Murphy asks ‘Is it a good idea for any government at this point in the economic transition, with a view to Australia’s emissions reduction agreement and the world’s emissions reductions agreements, to be contemplating building an HELE [high-efficiency low-emissions] coal plant?Katharine Murphy asks ‘Is it a good idea for any government at this point in the economic transition, with a view to Australia’s emissions reduction agreement and the world’s emissions reductions agreements, to be contemplating building an HELE [high-efficiency low-emissions] coal plant?
FinkelFinkel
So my personal opinion, the panel’s opinion, the review, it’s all about the long term, and what you’re trying to do with that question and the other questions is get me to pass an opinion or a judgement on a [system]So my personal opinion, the panel’s opinion, the review, it’s all about the long term, and what you’re trying to do with that question and the other questions is get me to pass an opinion or a judgement on a [system]
Murph: “You’re perfectly qualified”Murph: “You’re perfectly qualified”
Finkel:Finkel:
for a short-term need. It’s not going to be decadal impact. I just don’t know enough about how the process will be run, what the result will be. Even whether the process will be run in the first place. It is what you have to call a hypothetical.for a short-term need. It’s not going to be decadal impact. I just don’t know enough about how the process will be run, what the result will be. Even whether the process will be run in the first place. It is what you have to call a hypothetical.
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Chief scientist Alan Finkel sees a place for "reverse auction" to get bids to reduce emissions. @PressClubAust
Finkel offers no endorsement for coal. Says it's up to government on taking bids to build new coal power. https://t.co/vuLxwaNzWn
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Christopher Knaus reports:
A Chinese student organiser and gold trader linked to ALP Senate candidate Simon Zhou used a shell company to donate $45,000 to the Labor party while working for the shadow assistant treasurer in last year’s federal election campaign.
Xin “Filip” Shu, then 26, began working casually for Labor’s Matt Thistlethwaite during the election campaign, after finishing stints with several gold traders, including one now known to be involved in a $143m gold-trading tax scandal.
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Mike Bowers was in the chamber when for the second reading of Gonski 2.0.
Birmingham was on the phone in the latter stages of the debate.
After Derryn Hinch spoke in favour, the speakers ran out and the finance minister, Mathias Cormann, called on a vote.
Bowers says that took the Greens by surprise and there were hurried conferences as the vote was taking place.
And just after.
Soon after, it became clear the government “at this stage, says Lambie” has her support. That is the 10th vote, the magic number.
It would appear the Greens were cut out, in favour of a deal with the crossbench.
Not relying on the Greens vote makes it politically easier for Turnbull and Birmingham in their own party room with the three As – Tony Abbott, Eric Abetz and Kevin Andrews.
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While it seems that the government has a deal with the crossbenchers, there are no official amendments on the chamber documents yet. But the consensus in the debate from the players is:
Faster rollout of funding, from 10 years to six
Binding the states to commit their funding
Independent school funding body to oversee funding formulas and audits
For the next 12 months, a delay to changes to the Catholic system. The details on this are a bit sketchy and may mean different things to different senators, so all things are liable to change without notice.
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Nick Xenophon predicts the cross media ownership will not get through the Senate this week.
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UPDATE: I will support Gonski 2.0 at this stage pic.twitter.com/b15x6Fduo2
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Jacqui Lambie, Nick Xenophon and his colleagues Rebekha Sharkie and Sky Kakoschke-Moore are holding a doorstop on Gonski 2.0.
They were asked about threats by the Australian Education Union to campaign against them.
Lambie gets her back up and says she will put it back on the AEU and ask them why they are not teaching kids properly.
Xenophon says meh, there is such a long list of people out to get me...
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Meanwhile at the Press Club, Alan Finkel is comparing the national electricity market to an Italian novel.
Chief Scientist Dr Alan Finkel will conclude press club speech by comparing the electricity market to plot of an historical Italian novel: pic.twitter.com/Aso3RrRdaY
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Government appears to have numbers on Gonski 2.0
Independent Jacqui Lambie is supporting the school funding bill “at this stage”.
This would appear to give the government the numbers to pass the bill.
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Education minister Simon Birmingham paints himself as the saviour of Gonski, the guy that fixes the problem.
He says the Greens have been thoughtful contributors in the public debate on this issue.
He says Labor would rather play politics on this issue.
It’s never been for them about applying needs-based funding across Australia. It is about a political wedge.
This how I see it.
Labor’s original intentions under Julia Gillard was to sort school funding through Gonski.
Due to the leadership fights and the minority parliament, her hands were tied and she could not complete deals quickly enough. The Coalition states were agin her but Gonski 1.0 was a good start.
The Coalition never believed in needs-based funding until recently – Tony Abbott broke his promise about being on the Gonski ticket in 2013 – so this latter-day conversion to needs-based funding is the ultimate reverse ferret.
But now that most of the Coalition have accepted it, Labor should welcome it and promise to ramp up funding when we get there. Due to competing constituencies, Labor will find it harder to stare down Catholic and independent schools.
If Labor are worried about enshrining the 80-20 split between public and private schools, they can also fix that with Greens support when they are in government.
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