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Coalition accuses Labor of conspiring with foreign party to bring down Joyce – politics live Coalition and Labor trade blows over citizenship– question time live
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Labor has released statements from three of their MPs being questioned by the Coalition.
MARIA VAMVAKINOU:
I was born in Greece to Greek parents. On 9 August, 2000, I formally renounced Greek citizenship via the Consul General in Melbourne. I received an acknowledgement of my letter on 21 August 2000.
In Sykes v Cleary, the High Court of Australia stated that a candidate would not be disqualified under section 44(i) providing they had taken “reasonable steps” to renounce any foreign citizenship prior to nominating for election.
TONY ZAPPIA:
I ceased being an Italian citizen on acquiring Australian citizenship in December 1958.
The Italian Consul confirmed that is the case by letter dated July 2004 – before my election to parliament.
SUSAN LAMB:
As part of my nomination, I was advised that I may have been entitled to UK citizenship through my father, who is deceased.
On 23 May 2016 I took all necessary steps to renounce by completing and sending the UK Home Office Form RN, “Declaration of Renunciation of British Citizenship”, and paying the requisite fee.
Australia Post confirmed the Renunciation form was received by the UK Home Office in Liverpool on 25 May 2016.
I was subsequently cleared to stand by the Labor Party, and nominated on 7 June 2016.
In Sykes v Cleary, the High Court of Australia stated that a candidate would not be disqualified under section 44(i) providing they had taken “reasonable steps” to renounce any foreign citizenship prior to nominating for election.
I am immensely proud to have the privilege to serve as the Member for Longman.
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You find some funny things in the Constitution #qt #auspol pic.twitter.com/GG9uJfu2A7
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Joel Fitzgibbon to Turnbull: “Why is Barnaby Joyce different to anybody who has stood aside for this particular interest?” Why hasn’t the Prime Minister directed the Deputy Prime Minister to resign? Is it because the Prime Minister relies on his single vote to cling to power?
Turnbull repeats his previous statements, saying Joyce is the DPM, he sits in the cabinet, his citizenship was referred to the high court not because it was wrong but because the government wanted to clear up the law.
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I’m out of sync. Missed a question from Tanya Plibersek to Turnbull: The Prime Minister is due to attend the Pacific Islands forum in Samoa on 8 September. Who will be Acting Prime Minister while the Prime Minister is overseas?
Turnbull says the usual arrangements will apply.
ie. Barnaby.
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A government question from Andrew Hastie to Christopher Pyne regarding deviant behaviour, employer-employee organisations in order to do over Bill Shorten on citizenship and union history.
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Indi independent Cathy McGowan asks about the north east Victorian trainline: Could you please outline the scope of the works, how will the money be spent, and on what? What is the timeline for delivery? Most importantly, how will the communities of north-east Victoria, particularly of Indi, be put in touch with these decisions and know what the intentions of both ARTC and theGovernment are in this regard.
Transport minister Darren Chester says there will be community consultations following the $140m in funding to the service.
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Government question to Julie Bishop: Will the minister advise the house how serious it is for a political party in Australia to engage a foreign political party to undermine the Australian government?
General uproarious laughter and heckling.
Bishop repeats her press conference messages.
Mr Speaker, the leader of the opposition has shown that he has no interest in the true concerns about section 44. Uncertainties are awash across his side of the parliament.
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Labor’s Tony Burke to Julie Bishop: I refer to the foreign minister’s extraordinary press conference today where the minister announced that Australia’s relationship with New Zealand would be undermined by the partisan politics of New Zealand’s next election. If the foreign minister won’t be able to work with the New Zealanders, how will the foreign minister be able to work with the deputy prime minister?
ZINGER!
Question is ruled out of order.
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The Coalition doubles down on the foreign interference argument.
The first government question to the PM.
Will the prime minister update the house on the risk posed by foreign state interference in Australia’s democratic processes and the measures the government is taking to protect the national interest?
Turnbull describes previous behaviour by Labor senator Sam Dastyari regarding Chinese-linked political donations.
What we have seen this week is a member of the Australian Labor party contact a member of the member of the New Zealand parliament and ask them to check on the citizenship of Australians with the purpose and intent of undermining the commonwealth of Australia. So outrageous and improper has that conduct been that it was condemned already by Jacinta Ardern, the leader of the Labour party in New Zealand. The question for the leader of the opposition in Australia, is does he have the same character as Jacinta Ardern?
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Turnbull: Joyce judgement on Greens MPs was wrong in constitutional law
Shorten to Turnbull: The Deputy Prime Minister told ABC, “Unfortunately, that’s the law.” He went on, “They were members of Parliament but it is quite clear on Section 44, you can’t be a member of Parliament and have dual citizenship.” “It’s black and white”, he said. Why isn’t the Prime Minister holding his deputy to his own standards.
Turnbull says Joyce does not claim to be a constitutional expert, i.e. he got the constitution wrong.
What the Deputy Prime Minister said in that interview was not a correct interpretation or description of the way the law operates. That’s the fact!
Uproarious laughter.
You can laugh as much as you like. You can laugh as much as you like. But the constitution is interpreted by the High Court of Australia.
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QUESTION TIME!QUESTION TIME!
*live blogger rushes off to grab hot beverage**live blogger rushes off to grab hot beverage*
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I want to revisit the Andrew Wilkie’s statement today regarding confidence and supply because I was not entirely clear last time. I want to revisit Andrew Wilkie’s statement today regarding confidence and supply because I was not entirely clear last time.
Wilkie said that he had not guaranteed anyone anything.Wilkie said that he had not guaranteed anyone anything.
This is what he said today:This is what he said today:
I wish to make it absolutely clear that my relationship with the government has not changed.I wish to make it absolutely clear that my relationship with the government has not changed.
I will continue to approach all issues in the parliament on their merits and have not guaranteed anyone anything.I will continue to approach all issues in the parliament on their merits and have not guaranteed anyone anything.
A copy of my relevant press release from 9 July 2016 is attached.A copy of my relevant press release from 9 July 2016 is attached.
This is the press release from 9 July when Malcolm Turnbull was trying to form government.This is the press release from 9 July when Malcolm Turnbull was trying to form government.
Reports in some media that I support Malcolm Turnbull are wrong.Reports in some media that I support Malcolm Turnbull are wrong.
What I said yesterday is that I am committed to approaching all issues on their merits and will not vote against budget supply or confidence unless doing so would be clearly warranted.What I said yesterday is that I am committed to approaching all issues on their merits and will not vote against budget supply or confidence unless doing so would be clearly warranted.
I remain steadfast in my commitment to doing no deals with any political party. Nor have I cut any deal with Malcolm Turnbull.I remain steadfast in my commitment to doing no deals with any political party. Nor have I cut any deal with Malcolm Turnbull.
But more than ever Australia does need certainty and stability. I will not try and exploit the current political fragility by being politically destructive.But more than ever Australia does need certainty and stability. I will not try and exploit the current political fragility by being politically destructive.
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Cathy McGowan stands by confidence and supply agreement with TurnbullCathy McGowan stands by confidence and supply agreement with Turnbull
The Indi independent has released a statement on the supply issue.The Indi independent has released a statement on the supply issue.
The federal independent member for Indi, Cathy McGowan, stands by her position of support for the government on the questions of confidence and supply. The confirmation follows the revelation of the deputy prime minister Barnaby Joyce’s entitlement to dual citizenship.The federal independent member for Indi, Cathy McGowan, stands by her position of support for the government on the questions of confidence and supply. The confirmation follows the revelation of the deputy prime minister Barnaby Joyce’s entitlement to dual citizenship.
My relationship with the government stays the same. I am not going to be distracted by party politics. We have an agenda and we still have work to do on trains, renewable energy and mobile black spot funding.My relationship with the government stays the same. I am not going to be distracted by party politics. We have an agenda and we still have work to do on trains, renewable energy and mobile black spot funding.
Ms McGowan said she would support an audit of the citizenship status of all MPs and senators.Ms McGowan said she would support an audit of the citizenship status of all MPs and senators.
She plans to move a motion seeking the register of members’ interests to include citizenship status.She plans to move a motion seeking the register of members’ interests to include citizenship status.
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Treachery/conspiracy: Coalition party room a "Kill Bill (Shorten)" affairTreachery/conspiracy: Coalition party room a "Kill Bill (Shorten)" affair
Paul KarpPaul Karp
The foreign affairs minister, Julie Bishop, is not alone in using fighting words about the ALP and New Zealand Labour asking questions about Barnaby Joyce’s citizenship status.The foreign affairs minister, Julie Bishop, is not alone in using fighting words about the ALP and New Zealand Labour asking questions about Barnaby Joyce’s citizenship status.
In the Coalition party room, Malcolm Turnbull said that the Australian Labor party “has been conspiring with the New Zealand Labour party to undermine the position of the deputy prime minister and the government of Australia”.In the Coalition party room, Malcolm Turnbull said that the Australian Labor party “has been conspiring with the New Zealand Labour party to undermine the position of the deputy prime minister and the government of Australia”.
There is a conspiracy between the ALP and NZ Labour party to do so.There is a conspiracy between the ALP and NZ Labour party to do so.
Turnbull labelled this “sneakiness, dishonesty and disloyalty” and attacked Shorten’s record of “betrayal” under Kevin Rudd and Julia Gillard and his representation of workers’ interests at the Australian Workers Union.Turnbull labelled this “sneakiness, dishonesty and disloyalty” and attacked Shorten’s record of “betrayal” under Kevin Rudd and Julia Gillard and his representation of workers’ interests at the Australian Workers Union.
Joyce also described the “inappropriate use of the NZ Labour party” as “treachery”. He said Shorten was “not much of a bloke” and the tactics of Labor would “not pass the pub test”.Joyce also described the “inappropriate use of the NZ Labour party” as “treachery”. He said Shorten was “not much of a bloke” and the tactics of Labor would “not pass the pub test”.
Bishop discussed same-sex marriage, urging colleagues regardless of whether they are campaigning for Yes, No or neither to encourage Australians to have their say.Bishop discussed same-sex marriage, urging colleagues regardless of whether they are campaigning for Yes, No or neither to encourage Australians to have their say.
We should all encourage the public to participate in the postal plebiscite, to make it credible.”We should all encourage the public to participate in the postal plebiscite, to make it credible.”
It’s a good point but it does tend to contradict Turnbull telling 3AW on Friday that if some (or many) Australians don’t vote, it should not “delegitimise” the votes of those who do.It’s a good point but it does tend to contradict Turnbull telling 3AW on Friday that if some (or many) Australians don’t vote, it should not “delegitimise” the votes of those who do.
One senior Coalition member said Shorten’s speech last week on same-sex marriage (blasting the postal survey but announcing Labor would urge a Yes vote) was “the ugliest, most vile and most aggressive” speech he had ever heard in the parliament, particularly in its “vilification” of Turnbull.One senior Coalition member said Shorten’s speech last week on same-sex marriage (blasting the postal survey but announcing Labor would urge a Yes vote) was “the ugliest, most vile and most aggressive” speech he had ever heard in the parliament, particularly in its “vilification” of Turnbull.
That member warned if Shorten is the spear-carrier for the Yes case it would be “shedding votes every day”, and several others who do support the Yes case agreed Shorten does not represent them.That member warned if Shorten is the spear-carrier for the Yes case it would be “shedding votes every day”, and several others who do support the Yes case agreed Shorten does not represent them.
Despite all the talk of how vile Shorten’s speech was, there was no discussion of acting special minister of state Mathias Cormann’s offer to draft a bill setting the ground rules and applying electoral act protections to the postal survey debate.Despite all the talk of how vile Shorten’s speech was, there was no discussion of acting special minister of state Mathias Cormann’s offer to draft a bill setting the ground rules and applying electoral act protections to the postal survey debate.
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#BREAKING: Jacinda Ardern says Julie Bishops comments "highly regrettable" will register her disappointment with Aust HC @SkyNewsAust pic.twitter.com/RReRjRIM82#BREAKING: Jacinda Ardern says Julie Bishops comments "highly regrettable" will register her disappointment with Aust HC @SkyNewsAust pic.twitter.com/RReRjRIM82
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Lunch-time politicsLunch-time politics
The citizenship fallout continues with the Turnbull government threatening to refer Labor MPs to the high court over potential dual citizenship. The Coalition has also accused Labor of deliberately conspiring with a “foreign party” – aka the NZ Labour party – to undermine confidence in the Australian government.The citizenship fallout continues with the Turnbull government threatening to refer Labor MPs to the high court over potential dual citizenship. The Coalition has also accused Labor of deliberately conspiring with a “foreign party” – aka the NZ Labour party – to undermine confidence in the Australian government.
Bob Katter says he is not sticking by his agreement on confidence and supply with Malcolm Turnbull because he has not delivered his rural and regional wish list. This does not matter so much at this stage because the government still has a majority of one but, if Joyce were to be struck out, then it would become an issue.Bob Katter says he is not sticking by his agreement on confidence and supply with Malcolm Turnbull because he has not delivered his rural and regional wish list. This does not matter so much at this stage because the government still has a majority of one but, if Joyce were to be struck out, then it would become an issue.
Independent Andrew Wilkie said he has always approached the parliaments on the issues and said he never had an agreement.Independent Andrew Wilkie said he has always approached the parliaments on the issues and said he never had an agreement.
Nick Xenophon, whose MP Rebekha Sharkie is in the lower house, says that, until the high court rules, nothing to see here.Nick Xenophon, whose MP Rebekha Sharkie is in the lower house, says that, until the high court rules, nothing to see here.
Independent Cathy McGowan is due to put out a statement.Independent Cathy McGowan is due to put out a statement.
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Nick Xenophon has just visited. He is not entering into the confidence and supply issue because, until the high court rules otherwise, Joyce remains an MP.Nick Xenophon has just visited. He is not entering into the confidence and supply issue because, until the high court rules otherwise, Joyce remains an MP.
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Richard Di Natale and Sarah Hanson-Young are outlining the Greens’ position on the media reforms.Richard Di Natale and Sarah Hanson-Young are outlining the Greens’ position on the media reforms.
Hanson-Young says if the government wants the media package they need to protect the public broadcasters from Tony Abbott and One Nation. The Greens don’t want the ABC and SBS to be punching bags.Hanson-Young says if the government wants the media package they need to protect the public broadcasters from Tony Abbott and One Nation. The Greens don’t want the ABC and SBS to be punching bags.
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Re the Furreners’ argument:Re the Furreners’ argument:
Bishop also told party room it was "treachery" for ALP to "conspire" with NZ Labour #auspolBishop also told party room it was "treachery" for ALP to "conspire" with NZ Labour #auspol
The implication here is Australia's foreign minister would not trust a Labour government in New Zealand #auspolThe implication here is Australia's foreign minister would not trust a Labour government in New Zealand #auspol
And JBish said as much to reporters.And JBish said as much to reporters.
New Zealand is facing an election. Should there be a change of government, I would find it very hard to build trust with those involved in allegations designed to undermine the government of Australia.New Zealand is facing an election. Should there be a change of government, I would find it very hard to build trust with those involved in allegations designed to undermine the government of Australia.
I’m referring to Bill Shorten using a foreign political party to raise questions in a foreign parliament deliberately designed to undermine confidence in the Australian government.I’m referring to Bill Shorten using a foreign political party to raise questions in a foreign parliament deliberately designed to undermine confidence in the Australian government.
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I have been pretty slow on JBish due to various visits from various people.
The foreign affairs minister, Julie Bishop, has come out to deliver the argument that Malcolm Turnbull delivered in the party room – that is, the FOREIGN POWER argument.
The New Zealand Labor leader, Jacinda Ardern, has revealed that Bill Shorten sought to use the New Zealand parliament to undermine the Australian government.
Bill Shorten has sought to use a foreign political party to raise serious allegations in a foreign parliament designed to undermine confidence in the Australian government.
Bill Shorten has serious questions to answer. This is highly unethical, at least. But, more importantly, puts at risk the relationship between the Australian government and the New Zealand government.
Bill Shorten must reveal who he put up to this dirty task and the details of the urging of a foreign political party.
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Andrew Wilkie: I have not guaranteed anyone anything
Independent Andrew Wilkie has made it clear that he had no* supply and confidence agreement with the Turnbull government – never has, never will.
I wish to make it absolutely clear that my relationship with the government has not changed.
I will continue to approach all issues in the parliament on their merits and have not guaranteed anyone anything.
* amended as this post made no sense
** it made total sense in my head but sometimes I forget you are all not in here with me
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Greens party room
Paul Karp
The Greens party room this morning discussed the dual citizenship issue hanging over the eligibility of members of parliament and media reform negotiations.
On citizenship:
The Senate will vote on an audit of all members of parliament’s citizenship
The Greens have given notice of a motion for the Senate to order the government to produce the solicitor general’s advice that Barnaby Joyce is eligible to sit in parliament. That will be voted on on Wednesday
The Greens say that referrals to the high court should continue on a bipartisan basis and would frown on a “tit for tat” process of one side referring the other’s members to the court
On media reforms the Greens seem open to abandoning the two-out-of-three rule and have resolved to continue negotiations with the government but there’s no final decision yet.
Their wishlist on media reform:
Government support for the ABC and SBS, and it sounds like that will include more money for the public broadcasters
More protections for creation of local content
Protecting journalists’ jobs (unclear how to achieve that)
The Greens are on board with Nick Xenophon Team demands on protecting the ABC and tax breaks for not-for-profit media organisations but are working out how to prevent media organisations dodging tax.
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This is so much utter nonsense - while Hipkins' questions were inappropriate, they were not the instigator. Australian media inquiries were https://t.co/AwLrMYSapk
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Bob Katter withdraws agreement on supply and confidence to Malcolm Turnbull
Speaking to Sky, Bob Katter is critical of Malcolm Turnbull, who after the last election promised him an hour-long meeting at the beginning of this parliamentary term but looked at his watch and left after 25 minutes.
I wanted and need certain things. I wasn’t delivered certain things.
The certain things included the Hell’s Gate dam, Indigenous land title, and Galilee rail project.
He said he has no preference for Labor or Liberal but, after the last election, Labor was not in a position to form a government.
Samantha Maiden asks, so you are no longer guaranteeing confidence and supply?
Absolutely. Absolutely. It’s back to the drawing board.
This does not materially change things at the minute but, if the government loses a number, things could get interesting.
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Independent MP Bob Katter says the rules as he sees them are pretty clear. Barnaby Joyce is a dual citizen, he just has to face a by-election.
Katter also makes the point that the banking royal commission will be done, given the impending (in Bob’s mind) loss of the Turnbull government’s majority.
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NZ Labour leader confirms MP was asked by Australian Labor to raise citizenship
The Coalition have been arguing all morning that the Australian Labor party asked the New Zealand Labour party to ask a question.
AAP reports:
The New Zealand MP responsible for setting in train the possible removal of Barnaby Joyce from parliament was asked to raise the question of dual citizenship by the Australian Labor party.
The revelation by NZ Labour leader Jacinda Ardern on Tuesday has outraged the Turnbull government.
Junior minister Michael Sukkar says the situation “stinks to high hell” while cabinet minister Christopher Pyne accused Labor of stooping to new lows.
“Clearly the Labor party are involved in a conspiracy using a foreign government, in this case New Zealand, the try and bring down the Australian government,” Mr Pyne told Sky News.
NZ Labour MP Chris Hipkins, in a parliamentary question last week, asked the internal affairs minister whether a child born in Australia to a Kiwi father would automatically have citizenship. He’s yet to receive an answer.
Ms Ardern said she’d since asked her MP why he asked that question.
“He’s been very clear: Yes, someone from the ALP put some legal question to him around citizenship, no mention was made of anyone’s name, no rationale for any particular case being pursued was ever raised,” she told radio NZ.
“He asked the questions without knowing how that might be used and has made it very clear, in hindsight, had he known how it would be used, he would not have asked the questions.”
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Mother of Pistol and Boo.
To comfort Mr. Joyce in his hour need, I have sent him a box of New Zealand's finest kiwi fruit (assuming this passes his biosecurity laws) pic.twitter.com/lQHJzMyXT9
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Barnaby visits his ancestral lands.
Through the streets of your town- photoshop fakery from Dunedin @gabriellechan @GuardianAus @murpharoo #politicslive https://t.co/aFRYLbMuBA pic.twitter.com/kzGMVVeR2S
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Dick Smith says he wants a tax on the wealthiest 1%.
He says it’s totally ridiculous that there are no inheritance taxes and that billionaires can pass every cent on to their children.
Smith also says Australia cannot sustain a larger population and he said Australia needs to cut immigration as our birth rate will ensure the population is replaced.
All of our problems in the world today are harder to fix with more people.
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