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| 'My fear is they just won't bother': the cold callers turning out the marriage equality vote | 'My fear is they just won't bother': the cold callers turning out the marriage equality vote |
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| Verbal abuse, apathy and voicemail are just some of the hurdles for those volunteering for the yes campaign | |
| Steph Harmon | |
| Tue 19 Sep 2017 19.12 BST | |
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| On Saturday afternoon, in a park in Sydney’s inner west, 30 young people gathered in the sun to debrief about the past hour they had spent cold calling for the yes campaign for marriage equality. | On Saturday afternoon, in a park in Sydney’s inner west, 30 young people gathered in the sun to debrief about the past hour they had spent cold calling for the yes campaign for marriage equality. |
| “It was heaps harder than I thought it would be,” one woman said, to murmurs of deflated agreement. | “It was heaps harder than I thought it would be,” one woman said, to murmurs of deflated agreement. |
| “But I had some good calls!” said another. | “But I had some good calls!” said another. |
| Since 23 August, the yes campaign coalition – which is led by the Equality Campaign and includes GetUp and Australian Marriage Equality – have been hosting calling parties, using an automated phone tool connecting volunteers to presumed yes voters around the country. | Since 23 August, the yes campaign coalition – which is led by the Equality Campaign and includes GetUp and Australian Marriage Equality – have been hosting calling parties, using an automated phone tool connecting volunteers to presumed yes voters around the country. |
| From these official events, grassroots phone banks have sprung up organised by unions, churches, businesses, clubs and groups of friends, using the same tool. The campaign estimates 305 registered calling events have taken place so far, with more than 200 others planned. | From these official events, grassroots phone banks have sprung up organised by unions, churches, businesses, clubs and groups of friends, using the same tool. The campaign estimates 305 registered calling events have taken place so far, with more than 200 others planned. |
| The calls are dialling a purchased database of commercially available phone numbers held by people who, based on demographic indicators including gender and age, are considered likely to vote yes. (According to the campaign’s data, 80% of young women under 25 support marriage equality, for instance, and while young men also support it, they are less likely to be sure they will vote.) | The calls are dialling a purchased database of commercially available phone numbers held by people who, based on demographic indicators including gender and age, are considered likely to vote yes. (According to the campaign’s data, 80% of young women under 25 support marriage equality, for instance, and while young men also support it, they are less likely to be sure they will vote.) |
| The goal is to activate yes voters to not only return their ballot but to take action themselves: to talk to friends and family, post on social media, or even volunteer themselves. | The goal is to activate yes voters to not only return their ballot but to take action themselves: to talk to friends and family, post on social media, or even volunteer themselves. |
| For those making the calls, the process has been eye-opening, offering first-hand access to a divisiveness that many – often in a bubble of their own – might not otherwise have encountered. | For those making the calls, the process has been eye-opening, offering first-hand access to a divisiveness that many – often in a bubble of their own – might not otherwise have encountered. |
| On Tuesday, the Guardian Essential poll found support for marriage equality has fallen 4% in a fortnight and now sits at 55% to 34% of those opposed (up 3%), with yes voters more likely to vote. A yes vote is by no means a done deal and the campaign believes these conversations will be crucial to its success. | On Tuesday, the Guardian Essential poll found support for marriage equality has fallen 4% in a fortnight and now sits at 55% to 34% of those opposed (up 3%), with yes voters more likely to vote. A yes vote is by no means a done deal and the campaign believes these conversations will be crucial to its success. |
| But, for the volunteers, they’re not all easy. | But, for the volunteers, they’re not all easy. |
| One man, Alex, estimates he has made around 150 calls so far, 80% of which went straight to voicemail. Of the remainders, 50% were a hard “yes”, 20% a soft “yes” and 20% wanted to be left alone. The rest were “no”. | One man, Alex, estimates he has made around 150 calls so far, 80% of which went straight to voicemail. Of the remainders, 50% were a hard “yes”, 20% a soft “yes” and 20% wanted to be left alone. The rest were “no”. |
| “There are two kinds of negative calls I’ve run into: the hard, ‘Fuck off, I don’t want to talk to you about this’ ... and the definite no voters who are – in the main – reasonably pleasant in how they blow you off,” he said. “That said, maybe five to 10 of the calls I’ve made, the person on the other end has been vitriolic and aggressive. Calling me a ‘faggot’, telling me they’re disappointed in Australia, that I’m ruining Australia, that I’m a paedophile. These calls are why I’ve made sure to be in a group when I’m calling – they’re super hard to recover from and respond to.” | “There are two kinds of negative calls I’ve run into: the hard, ‘Fuck off, I don’t want to talk to you about this’ ... and the definite no voters who are – in the main – reasonably pleasant in how they blow you off,” he said. “That said, maybe five to 10 of the calls I’ve made, the person on the other end has been vitriolic and aggressive. Calling me a ‘faggot’, telling me they’re disappointed in Australia, that I’m ruining Australia, that I’m a paedophile. These calls are why I’ve made sure to be in a group when I’m calling – they’re super hard to recover from and respond to.” |
| I’ve made sure to be in a group when I’m calling – [some calls] are super hard to recover from and respond to. | I’ve made sure to be in a group when I’m calling – [some calls] are super hard to recover from and respond to. |
| Over a few weeks of calling, Alex said, he has noticed “more angry hang-ups” and “more frustration that the conversation is occurring and taking up so much time” – but each time he calls a hard “yes”, his spirits are bolstered. | Over a few weeks of calling, Alex said, he has noticed “more angry hang-ups” and “more frustration that the conversation is occurring and taking up so much time” – but each time he calls a hard “yes”, his spirits are bolstered. |
| “They’re usually super vocal about their support. When you ask if they’ve spoken to friends, they say, ‘Hell yeah and all my friends are voting yes!’ It feels like a really significant community spirit has built around the yes campaign.” Sally Rugg, the marriage equality director at GetUp who has made around 100 calls herself, agrees: “I’ve been working on this campaign for nearly five years and I have never seen this level of public enthusiasm and unrelenting energy.” | “They’re usually super vocal about their support. When you ask if they’ve spoken to friends, they say, ‘Hell yeah and all my friends are voting yes!’ It feels like a really significant community spirit has built around the yes campaign.” Sally Rugg, the marriage equality director at GetUp who has made around 100 calls herself, agrees: “I’ve been working on this campaign for nearly five years and I have never seen this level of public enthusiasm and unrelenting energy.” |
| After the postal votes were mailed out on 12 September, the script for the calls, which is provided by the campaign, changed from encouraging people to vote yes as soon as they received their letter, to reminding them to mail back their votes immediately and urging them to talk to their loved ones. | After the postal votes were mailed out on 12 September, the script for the calls, which is provided by the campaign, changed from encouraging people to vote yes as soon as they received their letter, to reminding them to mail back their votes immediately and urging them to talk to their loved ones. |
| Ben took part in a phone bank on 9 September and another the following weekend. He said he found a lot more negativity between one weekend and the next. | Ben took part in a phone bank on 9 September and another the following weekend. He said he found a lot more negativity between one weekend and the next. |
| “From the first weekend to the second, I called a lot more people saying that it was none of my business how they were going to vote, which was actually kind of troubling,” he said. “It was troubling because it bolsters two claims made by the no campaign: that people feel pressured into silence and that there’s a big mass of no voters who aren’t vocal about it.” | “From the first weekend to the second, I called a lot more people saying that it was none of my business how they were going to vote, which was actually kind of troubling,” he said. “It was troubling because it bolsters two claims made by the no campaign: that people feel pressured into silence and that there’s a big mass of no voters who aren’t vocal about it.” |
| People who had taken part in phone banks over two or three weeks noticed that they seemed to be reaching more men and older people last weekend. It seemed that the calls were getting harder. “I thought there were more waverers, more emboldened ‘no’s, or upset people later [in the campaign],” a volunteer, James, said. “Could be [that we were calling] a different list, hard to say.” GetUp wouldn’t comment on whether the people they are targeting has changed. | People who had taken part in phone banks over two or three weeks noticed that they seemed to be reaching more men and older people last weekend. It seemed that the calls were getting harder. “I thought there were more waverers, more emboldened ‘no’s, or upset people later [in the campaign],” a volunteer, James, said. “Could be [that we were calling] a different list, hard to say.” GetUp wouldn’t comment on whether the people they are targeting has changed. |
| Another volunteer, Bryony, said she worried that the campaign could backfire with some voters. Following the script last weekend, she called a woman who said she supported marriage equality: “Then I got to the bit where I said, ‘When you get your ballot, tick yes, pop it in the envelope and mail it ASAP.’ | Another volunteer, Bryony, said she worried that the campaign could backfire with some voters. Following the script last weekend, she called a woman who said she supported marriage equality: “Then I got to the bit where I said, ‘When you get your ballot, tick yes, pop it in the envelope and mail it ASAP.’ |
| Most were easy ‘yes’s, with not much to do but encourage their vote. | Most were easy ‘yes’s, with not much to do but encourage their vote. |
| “‘DID YOU JUST TELL ME TO TICK YES?!’ she said. ‘I can’t believe you’re calling people and telling them how to vote. You know that it’s human nature to do the opposite of what you’ve been told. If you call people and tell them to tick yes, they’re going to tick no. I can’t believe you would say that.’” | “‘DID YOU JUST TELL ME TO TICK YES?!’ she said. ‘I can’t believe you’re calling people and telling them how to vote. You know that it’s human nature to do the opposite of what you’ve been told. If you call people and tell them to tick yes, they’re going to tick no. I can’t believe you would say that.’” |
| James reported speaking to one woman who was “furious about the waste” of resources – “I think she thought taxpayer money was being spent on the call, which I didn’t get a chance to correct” – and other people who were “very cagey about even being asked ‘such a personal question’”. | James reported speaking to one woman who was “furious about the waste” of resources – “I think she thought taxpayer money was being spent on the call, which I didn’t get a chance to correct” – and other people who were “very cagey about even being asked ‘such a personal question’”. |
| But, he said, most calls he made were “easy ‘yes’s, with not much to do but encourage their vote”. Other volunteers spoke of successful calls: explaining the postal plebiscite to people who supported marriage equality but had not heard about it; or speaking to supporters who were “stoked” to be called and pledged to vote quickly and talk to their friends. | But, he said, most calls he made were “easy ‘yes’s, with not much to do but encourage their vote”. Other volunteers spoke of successful calls: explaining the postal plebiscite to people who supported marriage equality but had not heard about it; or speaking to supporters who were “stoked” to be called and pledged to vote quickly and talk to their friends. |
| For Matt, the highlight was one man who sounded busy but was quick to say “yes”. As per the script, Matt followed up to explain why he thought the vote mattered: “He said, ‘No, I promise, all my friends and family will be voting yes. We were one of the first gay couples in Sydney to have a surrogate child. We all really want this to happen.’” | For Matt, the highlight was one man who sounded busy but was quick to say “yes”. As per the script, Matt followed up to explain why he thought the vote mattered: “He said, ‘No, I promise, all my friends and family will be voting yes. We were one of the first gay couples in Sydney to have a surrogate child. We all really want this to happen.’” |
| One volunteer, Alyx, thinks the biggest threat to the yes campaign is apathy. “While there have been really beautiful moments, making calls has made me slightly less confident about the result of the postal vote. People have busy lives. They live in their own worlds. My fear is that if they, or someone they love, isn’t directly affected, they just won’t bother voting.” | One volunteer, Alyx, thinks the biggest threat to the yes campaign is apathy. “While there have been really beautiful moments, making calls has made me slightly less confident about the result of the postal vote. People have busy lives. They live in their own worlds. My fear is that if they, or someone they love, isn’t directly affected, they just won’t bother voting.” |
| After each call closes, the caller is asked to answer a series of questions about how it went. Was it a “not interested”? A “meaningful conversation”? Did they agree to talk to their family and friends? On Monday, GetUp said the campaign had made 300,000 phone calls so far; 40,000 reached voters and 19,000 had resulted in “meaningful conversations”. | After each call closes, the caller is asked to answer a series of questions about how it went. Was it a “not interested”? A “meaningful conversation”? Did they agree to talk to their family and friends? On Monday, GetUp said the campaign had made 300,000 phone calls so far; 40,000 reached voters and 19,000 had resulted in “meaningful conversations”. |
| My dad has voted LNP for 50 years and he supports it. So that makes me feel a lot better about the result. | My dad has voted LNP for 50 years and he supports it. So that makes me feel a lot better about the result. |
| Alex said that, of the 150 calls he has made, the most meaningful he had was with his father – a lifelong conservative voter. “I’d been calling strangers all day and hadn’t worked up the courage to properly chat to my parents about it,” he said. But his father, it turned out, was ticking the yes box. | Alex said that, of the 150 calls he has made, the most meaningful he had was with his father – a lifelong conservative voter. “I’d been calling strangers all day and hadn’t worked up the courage to properly chat to my parents about it,” he said. But his father, it turned out, was ticking the yes box. |
| “Until that conversation, I’d been pretty worried about the bubble I was in convincing me that we’re headed for a yes ... when the actual sentiment of broader Australia [could be] a no,” Alex said. “My dad has voted LNP for 50 years and he supports it. So that makes me feel a lot better about the result.” | “Until that conversation, I’d been pretty worried about the bubble I was in convincing me that we’re headed for a yes ... when the actual sentiment of broader Australia [could be] a no,” Alex said. “My dad has voted LNP for 50 years and he supports it. So that makes me feel a lot better about the result.” |
| Alex also spoke to one young gay man for 20 minutes, as he was walking home the day the “Vote No” skywriting appeared across Sydney. “He said he just ‘needed someone to distract him’. It wasn’t about convincing him but supporting him. And I think that’s important.” | Alex also spoke to one young gay man for 20 minutes, as he was walking home the day the “Vote No” skywriting appeared across Sydney. “He said he just ‘needed someone to distract him’. It wasn’t about convincing him but supporting him. And I think that’s important.” |
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