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Federal court hearing on AWU raids set for 2.15pm – question time live | |
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Tony Burke: In his previous answer the Prime Minister said that Senator Cash had assured him that she did not advise the press gallery of the raids. Did Senator Cash assure the Prime Minister that her office did not advise the press gallery of the raids? | |
Malcolm Turnbull: the honourable member can attempt to cross-examine Senator Cash by proxy here in the House. He should make sure that his friends in the Senate can address all the questions to first hand. | |
4.30am BST | |
04:30 | |
Adam Bandt has the crossbench question and he uses it to ask about the Adani coal mine planned for Queensland: As former environment minister Peter Garrett pointed out this week, the Queensland Labor government is strongly backing the Adani coal mega-mine which will mean more deaths from heatwaves and bushfires.Prime Minister, will you take steps to step in and override this rogue state government like Bob Hawke did with the Franklin Dam? Or is the only way of stopping the Adani mine is for the people of Brisbane to elect the Greens [he names three MPs, but I missed that] to hold the balance of power in the Queensland parliament? | |
We get the shortest answer of the week from Malcolm Turnbull: as I said to the honourable member once before, I can only conclude from his question that he believes that Queenslanders should go without jobs and Indians should go without electricity. | |
Then Julie Bishop gets a dixer. It is on energy. | |
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Scott Morrison gets the next dixer. It is on energy. | |
Tony Burke has the next opposition question: Given TV cameras turned up at the site of AFP raids yesterday, can the Prime Minister guarantee that his employment minister or her office didn’t notify anyone in the press gallery before the raid? | |
Malcolm Turnbull: the employment minister is in estimates as we speak so I’m sure will be dealing with that, but I can assure - well, Mr Speaker, that can be addressed. But I can assure honourable members opposite that the real question here is what was -what happened to that $100,000. That’s the real issue, Mr Speaker.” | |
The whole chamber erupts. Burke has a point of order, saying he had no preamble and a very specific question. Speaker Tony Smith, after warning the chamber, says the prime minister was talking about the substance of the question, under the standing orders. | |
Turnbull: Thank you very much, Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, the minister, the Minister forEmployment, has assured me that she did not advise any journalists about the raid and, Mr Speaker, but she will be in estimates, she’s in estimates I believe this afternoon and will no doubt have the opportunity to go into this in great deal. But, Mr Speaker, the issue, the real issue is this: Why did the AWU give $100,000 of its hardworking members’ union dues to ‘GetUp!’? Was it authorised under the rules? Now, that is the matter, the Registered Organisations Commission is investigating and that enquiry was the subject or the context of the search warrants that were exercised yesterday. And as honourable members would know, the register Registered Organisations Commission said yesterday in a statement, since the investigation commenced, the ROC received information which raised reasonable grounds for suspecting documents relevant to this investigation may be on the premises of the AWU... They went to a magistrate, they secured a warrant and the warrant was executed and now I see that their lawyers are in court, the AWU’s lawyers are in court trying to stop the police having access to the documents. | |
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Tanya Plibersek is next on the Labor question roster: | |
The Federal Police did not have the resources to fully investigate a 1.6tonne cocaine importation, when the Federal Police already don’t have enough resources to do the important work they do, why is this born to rule Prime Minister diverting the limited resources of the FederalPolice so that he can attack his political opponents? | |
Christopher Pyne makes a point of order about a reference to the prime minister in the question–it doesn’t take a genius to know that it is ‘born to rule’ he is taking umbrage against. | |
Tony Smith allows the question, saying he doesn’t like the term, but terms like that have been used in the past. | |
Malcolm Turnbull gets to his feet, but doesn’t answer the question. | |
“I thank the honourable member for her question and, Mr Speaker, I accept the rather snide barb in her question. Let me say this to the honourable member. Throughout my life, throughout my life, my wife and I have started one business after another. We created jobs. We’ve invested. We know what creates enterprise and jobs. And we know that families like Nick and Louise, who get on with investment,create jobs. And all of those hereditary union princelings opposite, all of those people ,regardless of the donations that they, the contributions they get from union members, giving them away, giving them to political organisations that want to put their members out of work, that, MrSpeaker, on this side of the House we know what enterprise and jobs are about. We know it’s investment.Every one of our policies, everyone, is focused on creating more investment and more employment.That’s why we are resolute in our determination to deliver lower electricity prices, affordable power, reliable power, that’s our commitment. And we’re already reducing the burden of tax on thousands of small and medium businesses and, Mr Speaker, the members on the other side can mock and scoff as much as they like...Not everybody has a privileged ride to power through a union job. No, they don’t. No, they don’t. The reality is, Mr Speaker, hard work, enterprise, investment -that’s what delivers the jobs,that’s what’s delivered 371,000 jobs over the last year. And so I say, Mr Speaker, for those who have done so well from the union movement and ridden on the backs of the workers into parliament, think a little about how the jobs those workers have were created. Not by you, but by hardworking businessmen and women like Nick and Louise.” | |
And Tim Watts just became the first MP to be asked to leave. | |
4.12am BST | |
04:12 | |
Craig Kelly has the dixer and he all but yells it across the chamber. You get the feeling that he wishes he could be fighting Labor on unions, but instead, he’s being made to ask a question about lower energy prices and whether there are any alternative approaches. | |
You know what an actual alternative approach might be? Using your alloted question time to ask a question that is actually on the behalf of your constituents, instead of what your political party wants to prosecute. | |
I hate dixers. I hate them. | |
4.10am BST | |
04:10 | |
Question time begins | |
Malcolm Turnbull and Bill Shorten offer their condolences to Linda Burney. The whole chamber is silent. | |
I’ll bring those to you shortly. | |
Then it’s into the questions, and the first one is on the AWU raid. | |
Shorten: | |
Yesterday, it was revealed that the federal police did not have the resources to investigate the importation of 1.6 tonnes of cocaine. But on the very same day, the prime minister’s Registered Organisations Commission sent at least 25 AFP officers to look at a donation to GetUp. How can the prime minister find the resources to investigate the political … | |
He runs out of time, but Turnbull knows what the question is. He practically has written answers. | |
Turnbull: | |
The leader of the opposition talked about a 10-year-old donation. Is he suggesting that breaches of the law, breaches of union rules, should not be investigated because they’re 10 years old? That would be very convenient for the leader of the opposition. That would, indeed, be very convenient for the Leader of the Opposition ... what we have seen from the Labor party since that search warrant was executed is an attack on the integrity of the Australian Federal Police. | |
This is what they know as well as we do, as we all do, that the Australian Federal Police is absolutely independent in its operations. They decide who to investigate, how to investigate, that is a matter for them and so it should be. But what we saw yesterday was the member for Gordon say the government is using the power of the state to attack its political opponents. The prime minister is willing to use the police like his plaything, they are accusing the Federal Police of acting on political direction. That’s what they’re doing. | |
And, Mr Speaker, it is very, very familiar rhetoric because this is exactly what John Setka said in that notorious speech in Melbourne when he accused the Federal Police of being a political police force and of being political henchmen of the government. Mr Speaker, the reality is this: the Labor party does not respect the integrity of the Federal Police. They are all too ready to accuse them of being a political police force and, Mr Speaker, there is nothing in substance that differs from what the member for Gordon said yesterday and what John Setka said on his platform in Melbourne. | |
The same denial of the rule of law, the same contempt for the rule of law, the same contempt for the independence of the police and, Mr Speaker, the question for the leader of the opposition is not just why the AWU gave $100,000 to an organisation whose principle objective seems to be shutting down industries in which members of the AWU work, but also why he has not apologised for and disowned the outrageous attacks on the independence, the integrity of the men and women that keep us safe. | |
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The Greens have come together as a united front to condemn the AWU raids. | The Greens have come together as a united front to condemn the AWU raids. |
Following on from Adam Bandt this morning, leader Richard Di Natale says it “was part of a broader crackdown on people speaking out against this government”. | |
This is a government that sought to remove the charitable status of environment organisations; it is a government that seeks to silence whistleblowers and people speaking out against detention through the imposition of harsh laws. What we have is a government that is using every tool it has to silence dissent, to crack down on civil society and effectively say to its opponents ‘we are not going to tolerate you’. That is what we see in a police state, not in a democracy like Australia. Utterly shameful from a prime minister who doesn’t like being held to account, who doesn’t like criticism and will do everything he can to silence his opponents. We are extremely disappointed and angry that in a country like Australia we are seeing the police force being used in this way.” | |
Di Natale says the Greens will be taking advantage of the ROC’s appearance in front of an estimates committee this afternoon. | |
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We are getting very close to question time, so what do we know? | We are getting very close to question time, so what do we know? |
Michaelia Cash referred a historical donation matter involving the AWU and GetUp while Bill Shorten was union secretary to the Registered Organisations Commission. | Michaelia Cash referred a historical donation matter involving the AWU and GetUp while Bill Shorten was union secretary to the Registered Organisations Commission. |
The AFP, directed by the ROC, carried out raids on the AWU Sydney and Melbourne offices yesterday afternoon. | |
The media were tipped off, arriving before the AFP. | |
Labor has accused the government of misusing its power to target political rivals. | |
The government has denied that and accused Labor of questioning the integrity of the AFP. | |
Everyone is angry. | Everyone is angry. |
We all caught up? Other than the AWU raids, what else is on your QT bingo card? Anyone predicting what time I’ll fall over? So many surprises await us! | We all caught up? Other than the AWU raids, what else is on your QT bingo card? Anyone predicting what time I’ll fall over? So many surprises await us! |
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Federal court hearing set for 2.15pm over AWU raids | Federal court hearing set for 2.15pm over AWU raids |
Maurice Blackburn, who are representing the AWU, have filed an application with the federal court, challenging the validity of the AFP raids. | Maurice Blackburn, who are representing the AWU, have filed an application with the federal court, challenging the validity of the AFP raids. |
Josh Bornstein, the firm’s principal, said the raids were “an outrageous abuse of power” and the Registered Organisations Commission could have written to the union, or produced a summons, for the documents. | Josh Bornstein, the firm’s principal, said the raids were “an outrageous abuse of power” and the Registered Organisations Commission could have written to the union, or produced a summons, for the documents. |
“None of these actions were taken. Instead, a highly orchestrated media strategy was implemented so that television cameras arrived before the AFP to capture the raid and thereby seek to paint the union in the worst possible light,” he said in a statement. | “None of these actions were taken. Instead, a highly orchestrated media strategy was implemented so that television cameras arrived before the AFP to capture the raid and thereby seek to paint the union in the worst possible light,” he said in a statement. |
“This is an outrageous abuse of power and a farcical misuse of police resources that raises serious questions about the conduct of both the ROC and federal minister Michaelia Cash, who instigated the investigation. | “This is an outrageous abuse of power and a farcical misuse of police resources that raises serious questions about the conduct of both the ROC and federal minister Michaelia Cash, who instigated the investigation. |
“Prior to the raid, we wrote to the ROC, expressing our concern about possible political interference by the federal government in this matter. | “Prior to the raid, we wrote to the ROC, expressing our concern about possible political interference by the federal government in this matter. |
“We sought copies of all communications it has had with minister Cash and her staff but the ROC has declined to provide us with those documents. We will continue to press for that crucial information to be provided to the AWU.” | “We sought copies of all communications it has had with minister Cash and her staff but the ROC has declined to provide us with those documents. We will continue to press for that crucial information to be provided to the AWU.” |
The hearing has been set down for 2.15pm in Melbourne in the federal court. | The hearing has been set down for 2.15pm in Melbourne in the federal court. |
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Labor’s Nick Champion told Sky News he has some concerns about the AWU raids: | Labor’s Nick Champion told Sky News he has some concerns about the AWU raids: |
I am concerned for our country. I am concerned for the type of politics that are now becoming normalised by this government. What we had yesterday was a Kafkaesque show trial, where the media was notified before the union was aware. The union, as I understand it, was informed by the media subsequently appearing out the front of their offices. What this was was a government initiated show trial, it was designed for one purpose and this is to do damage to the leader of the opposition and do damage to the union movement and really there is no substance behind it other than that. | I am concerned for our country. I am concerned for the type of politics that are now becoming normalised by this government. What we had yesterday was a Kafkaesque show trial, where the media was notified before the union was aware. The union, as I understand it, was informed by the media subsequently appearing out the front of their offices. What this was was a government initiated show trial, it was designed for one purpose and this is to do damage to the leader of the opposition and do damage to the union movement and really there is no substance behind it other than that. |
It should be noted that Michaelia Cash has denied that she or her office tipped off the media (in estimates). | It should be noted that Michaelia Cash has denied that she or her office tipped off the media (in estimates). |
Champion says he is not accusing any individual of letting the media know, but says: “it’s a strange consequence that a government initiated, you know, investigation and the reference was provided by the government, after, you know, some toing and froing, the government admitted to that this morning on Sky. Those facts weren’t forthcoming in the prime minister’s interview but they were by the justice minister, who said Michaelia Cash provided the reference to the Registered Organisations Commission.” | Champion says he is not accusing any individual of letting the media know, but says: “it’s a strange consequence that a government initiated, you know, investigation and the reference was provided by the government, after, you know, some toing and froing, the government admitted to that this morning on Sky. Those facts weren’t forthcoming in the prime minister’s interview but they were by the justice minister, who said Michaelia Cash provided the reference to the Registered Organisations Commission.” |
He reiterated that Labor “has no beef” with the AFP for doing their job. | He reiterated that Labor “has no beef” with the AFP for doing their job. |
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Josh Frydenberg is still trying to talk energy, but keeps hitting the roadblocks of, you know, no modelling to back up the claims. | Josh Frydenberg is still trying to talk energy, but keeps hitting the roadblocks of, you know, no modelling to back up the claims. |
“... Everyone has said this is a practical, workable, credible, way forward and that is why the Labor party should get on board, that is why we are getting further modelling undertaken.” | “... Everyone has said this is a practical, workable, credible, way forward and that is why the Labor party should get on board, that is why we are getting further modelling undertaken.” |
Further modelling? | Further modelling? |
The analysis by the energy security board has given us a sense of where the savings will be, that is put in writing of $100 to $115, that was analysis that they undertook, based on a series of modelling that they had done previously on a whole range of relevant areas. So we need to get more modelling done, I have written to the energy security board, and when that modelling is done, it will be provided to the states through the Coag process so that we can have a constructive debate at the meeting at the end of the November. | The analysis by the energy security board has given us a sense of where the savings will be, that is put in writing of $100 to $115, that was analysis that they undertook, based on a series of modelling that they had done previously on a whole range of relevant areas. So we need to get more modelling done, I have written to the energy security board, and when that modelling is done, it will be provided to the states through the Coag process so that we can have a constructive debate at the meeting at the end of the November. |
So far, the Labor states don’t seem inclined to go along. Yesterday (was it only yesterday?) Malcolm Turnbull made the somewhat extraordinary admission that the states are saying one thing to him privately and another thing publicly. Keep in mind that Queensland is expected to head to the polls (the chatter will not stop that the election is being called within days) and potentially could have another government by that Coag meeting – and One Nation could be part of it. | So far, the Labor states don’t seem inclined to go along. Yesterday (was it only yesterday?) Malcolm Turnbull made the somewhat extraordinary admission that the states are saying one thing to him privately and another thing publicly. Keep in mind that Queensland is expected to head to the polls (the chatter will not stop that the election is being called within days) and potentially could have another government by that Coag meeting – and One Nation could be part of it. |
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