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No alternative but to sack Carl Sargeant says Carwyn Jones No alternative but to sack Carl Sargeant says Carwyn Jones
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Wales' First Minister Carwyn Jones has said he had no alternative but to sack Carl Sargeant following allegations about his conduct. First Minister Carwyn Jones has said he had no alternative but to sack Carl Sargeant following allegations about his conduct.
Mr Sargeant's body was found on Tuesday, four days after he was dismissed as communities minister and suspended from the Welsh Labour party.Mr Sargeant's body was found on Tuesday, four days after he was dismissed as communities minister and suspended from the Welsh Labour party.
It is understood he took his own life. Mr Jones said he had acted "by the book" over the matter. It is understood he took his own life but Mr Jones said he had acted "by the book" over the matter.
He said he would try to provide answers which Mr Sargeant's family deserved.He said he would try to provide answers which Mr Sargeant's family deserved.
Claims about inappropriate "touching or groping" were made to the first minister's office last week and following Friday's sacking, the Alyn and Deeside AM had vowed to clear his name but said he did not know the details of the allegations. There has been criticism of the way Mr Sargeant was treated and his family has called for an independent inquiry.
The inquest into Mr Sargeant's death will be opened and adjourned on Monday. Ex-Welsh Government minister Leighton Andrews, Welsh Conservative leader Andrew RT Davies and Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood also want inquiry, which Mr Jones suggested could take place in future.
Mr Jones met Labour AMs on Thursday to explain how he handled conduct allegations against Mr Sargeant. Claims about inappropriate "touching or groping" were made to the first minister's office last week and following Friday's sacking, the Alyn and Deeside AM had vowed to clear his name even though he said he did not know the details of the allegations.
Former Welsh Government minister Leighton Andrews, Welsh Conservative leader Andrew RT Davies, and Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood have called for an independent inquiry, which Mr Jones suggested could take place in future. An inquest into Mr Sargeant's death will be opened and adjourned on Monday.
Lifelong friend of Mr Sargeant, Flintshire council Labour deputy leader Bernie Attridge, said Mr Jones "had not done the decent thing". He had called for him to resign. Mr Jones met Labour AMs on Thursday to explain how he handled the conduct allegations against Mr Sargeant.
Mr Jones made a statement from Welsh Government headquarters in Cardiff on Thursday afternoon, following a meeting with Labour AMs at the Senedd in Cardiff Bay. Mr Jones then made a statement from Welsh Government headquarters in Cardiff on Thursday afternoon.
He called the situation "the darkest days" any of those at the assembly could remember but were the "darkest of all for the family".He called the situation "the darkest days" any of those at the assembly could remember but were the "darkest of all for the family".
There has been criticism of the way Mr Sargeant was treated and his family has called for an inquiry.
Mr Jones, speaking publicly for the first time since Mr Sargeant died, said: "There are a lot of inaccuracies in the press and many of you have questions to ask about what happened last week.
"Everybody is grieving and it is not appropriate for me to get into the precise detail.
"These are matters for the future - things that will need to be properly disclosed through what should be a coroner's inquest."
"As there will in all probability be an inquest, I and my team will of course be cooperating fully with any questions that are raised there."
"The family deserve to have their questions answered and if that isn't possible through the inquest then I will endeavour to make that happen through other means."
He paid tribute to Mr Sargeant, adding: "Carl was a true force of nature - he drove through more legislation than any other minister. Not just through force of argument, but through force of personality."
Despite speculation Mr Jones could have resigned on Thursday, the speech made no reference to his own political future.Despite speculation Mr Jones could have resigned on Thursday, the speech made no reference to his own political future.
Speaking publicly for the first time since Mr Sargeant's death, he said: "There are a lot of inaccuracies in the press and many of you have questions to ask about what happened last week."
He said precise details "will need to be properly disclosed" at the inquest.
"I and my team will of course be cooperating fully with any questions that are raised there," he said.
"The family deserve to have their questions answered and if that isn't possible through the inquest then I will endeavour to make that happen through other means.
"I welcome any scrutiny of my actions in the future and it is appropriate for that to be done independently.".
Paying tribute to Mr Sargeant, he said: "Carl was a true force of nature - he drove through more legislation than any other minister. Not just through force of argument, but through force of personality."
Analysis by Vaughan Roderick, BBC Welsh Affairs editorAnalysis by Vaughan Roderick, BBC Welsh Affairs editor
When Carwyn Jones finally appeared in front of the cameras today to deliver a statement on the death of Carl Sargeant and the events that led up to it, there was an expectation that the first minister would attempt to answer at least some of the many questions that have been raised since the former secretary's death.When Carwyn Jones finally appeared in front of the cameras today to deliver a statement on the death of Carl Sargeant and the events that led up to it, there was an expectation that the first minister would attempt to answer at least some of the many questions that have been raised since the former secretary's death.
Instead, while paying tribute to the man he described as a "true force of nature" he did little to answer the questions raised by Mr Sargeant's family and others.Instead, while paying tribute to the man he described as a "true force of nature" he did little to answer the questions raised by Mr Sargeant's family and others.
A reference to a possible independent enquiry seemed equivocal at best.A reference to a possible independent enquiry seemed equivocal at best.
The first minister's reference to "inaccuracies in the press" again raises more questions than answers.The first minister's reference to "inaccuracies in the press" again raises more questions than answers.
If reports are inaccurate - why not correct them and why refuse to answer questions from journalists who are trying their best to report the situation accurately?If reports are inaccurate - why not correct them and why refuse to answer questions from journalists who are trying their best to report the situation accurately?
Carwyn Jones is human, of course, and I have no doubt that his grief and shock are genuine.Carwyn Jones is human, of course, and I have no doubt that his grief and shock are genuine.
That may explain why a statement which would have been perfectly apt in the hours following Mr Sargeant's death seems insufficient and vague when delivered two and half days later.That may explain why a statement which would have been perfectly apt in the hours following Mr Sargeant's death seems insufficient and vague when delivered two and half days later.
Former Welsh Government minister Leighton Andrews said a number of people were expecting a "definite commitment to an independent inquiry" from Mr Jones. Mr Davies said the episode has "significantly undermined public confidence in the first minister", while Ms Wood said the statement "was not adequate".
"We weren't given clarity on that. The possibility of that was mentioned," he told Radio 4's PM programme, adding there is a "deep desire" within Welsh Labour "for an independent look".
Mr Davies, Welsh Conservative leader, said the "tragic episode" has "significantly undermined public confidence in the First Minister and the Labour Party".
Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood said; "The First Minister's statement and his failure to answer questions after calling a press conference was not adequate given the gravity of this situation."
UKIP Wales said it would call for a motion of no confidence in the first minister.UKIP Wales said it would call for a motion of no confidence in the first minister.
Earlier Mr Andrews alleged that Mr Sargeant had been the target of bullying in the Welsh Government. And Mr Sargeant's lifelong friend and Flintshire council's deputy leader Bernie Attridge, called for Mr Jones to resign saying he "had not done the decent thing".
Former public services minister Mr Andrews - who alleged "minor bullying" and "mind games" during his time in government - said during the last assembly term the atmosphere "was toxic". Mr Andrews said a number of people were expecting a "definite commitment to an independent inquiry" from Mr Jones' statement.
He alleged "minor bullying, mind-games, power-games, favouritism, inconsistency of treatment to different ministers, deliberate personal undermining on occasion". Earlier on Thursday, Mr Andrews alleged Mr Sargeant had been the target of bullying in the Welsh Government.
Former public services minister Mr Andrews - claimed there was "minor bullying" and "mind games" during his time in government - and said the atmosphere was "toxic" during the last assembly term.
"The undermining was of ministers, deputy ministers and special advisers," Mr Andrews said in a statement issued on Thursday."The undermining was of ministers, deputy ministers and special advisers," Mr Andrews said in a statement issued on Thursday.
He said Mr Sargeant "was unquestionably the target of some of this behaviour. The relentless drip-drip of disinformation - and worse - had a strain on his and others' mental health."
The ex-Rhondda AM said he had raised one particular issue with Mr Jones, of which he had direct evidence, but claimed due process was not followed.The ex-Rhondda AM said he had raised one particular issue with Mr Jones, of which he had direct evidence, but claimed due process was not followed.
Mr Andrews was sacked by Mr Jones from the education brief in 2013 before returning to the front benches as public services minister in 2014. The Welsh Government has declined to respond to Mr Andrews' claims.
In his statement, Mr Andrews added: "I found that the atmosphere was unquestionably worse after I returned to government in September 2014 than it had been in the period May 2011-June 2013.
"Carl was unquestionably the target of some of this behaviour. The relentless drip-drip of disinformation - and worse - had a strain on his and others' mental health.
"The first minister was made aware of this by several ministers, including myself.
"Nothing was done."
The Welsh Government has declined to respond to Mr Andrews's claims.
Previous comments by Mr Andrews - and other Labour politicians both privately and publicly - had already increased the pressure on Mr Jones.
Cerys Furlong, chief executive of equality charity Chwarae Teg, said the allegations against Mr Sargeant "need to still be fully investigated in due course, as do the circumstances into his death in a way that respects the feelings of his family".