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Senate committee questions Trump nuclear authority | Senate committee questions Trump nuclear authority |
(about 2 hours later) | |
For the first time in over 40 years, Congress has examined a US president's authority to launch a nuclear attack. | |
The Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing was titled Authority to Order the Use of Nuclear Weapons. | |
Some senators expressed concern that the president might irresponsibly order a nuclear strike; others said he must have the authority to act without meddling from lawyers. | |
The last time Congress debated this issue was in March 1976. | |
In August, Mr Trump vowed to unleash "fire and fury like the world has never seen" on North Korea if it continued to expand its atomic weapons programme. | In August, Mr Trump vowed to unleash "fire and fury like the world has never seen" on North Korea if it continued to expand its atomic weapons programme. |
Last month, the Senate committee's Republican chairman, Senator Bob Corker, accused the president of setting the US "on a path to World War III". | |
A nervous laugh | A nervous laugh |
Senator Ben Cardin set the tone at Tuesday morning's public hearing on Capitol Hill. | |
"This is not a hypothetical discussion," the Maryland Democrat said. | |
Some senators present said they were troubled about the president's latitude to launch a nuclear strike. | |
Chris Murphy, a Democrat from Connecticut, said: "We are concerned that the president is so unstable, is so volatile, has a decision-making process that is so quixotic, that he might order a nuclear-weapons strike that is wildly out of step with US national-security interests." | |
One of the experts, C Robert Kehler, who was commander of the US Strategic Command from 2011-13, said that in his former role he would have followed the president's order to carry out the strike - if it were legal. | |
He said if he were uncertain about its legality, he would have consulted with his own advisers. | |
Under certain circumstances, he explained: "I would have said, 'I'm not ready to proceed.'" | Under certain circumstances, he explained: "I would have said, 'I'm not ready to proceed.'" |
One senator, Ron Johnson, a Wisconsin Republican, asked: "Then what happens?" | |
Mr Kehler admitted: "I don't know." | Mr Kehler admitted: "I don't know." |
People in the room laughed. But it was a nervous laugh. | |
Another expert, Duke University's Peter Feaver, a political science professor, explained that a presidential order "requires personnel at all levels" to sign off on it. | |
It would be vetted by lawyers, as well as by the secretary of defence and individuals serving in the military. | |
"The president cannot by himself push a button and cause missiles to fly," said Prof Feaver. | |
'Bunker lawyers' | |
Another expert, Brian McKeon, a former under-secretary of defence for policy, said military officials would stop the president if they felt he was acting in a rash manner. | |
"Four-star generals are not shrinking violets," said Mr McKeon. | |
Senator Edward Markey, a Democrat from Massachusetts, sounded sceptical. | |
"I don't think we should be trusting the generals to be a check on the president," he said. | |
One of the key questions at the hearing was whether the senators - and Americans in general - had confidence in the president to make such a decision within minutes, or even seconds. | |
At that moment, the defence secretary, military officials and lawyers would have little time to review the president's decision. | |
Some of the senators said the president needed to have the freedom to act fast and forcefully under those circumstances. | |
Senator Marco Rubio explained that the US president "has to have the capacity to respond if we are under attack" - and not be circumvented by "a bunch of bunker lawyers". | |
Senator James Risch, an Idaho Republican, reinforced Mr Rubio's message, explaining that officials in Pyongyang should not misinterpret their discussion. | |
"He will do what is necessary to defend this country," said Mr Risch. | |
At the end of the hearing, the lawmakers and experts agreed that the nuclear arsenal should be modernised - just in case. | |