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UK nuclear weapons plan unveiled UK nuclear weapons plan unveiled
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Tony Blair has told MPs it would be "unwise and dangerous" for the UK to give up its nuclear weapons.Tony Blair has told MPs it would be "unwise and dangerous" for the UK to give up its nuclear weapons.
The prime minister outlined plans to spend up to £20bn on a new generation of submarines for Trident missiles.The prime minister outlined plans to spend up to £20bn on a new generation of submarines for Trident missiles.
He said submarine numbers may be cut from four to three, while the number of nuclear warheads will be cut by 20%. He said submarine numbers may be cut from four to three, while the number of nuclear warheads would be cut by 20%.
Mr Blair said although the Cold War had ended the UK needed nuclear weapons as no-one could be sure another nuclear threat would not emerge in the future.Mr Blair said although the Cold War had ended the UK needed nuclear weapons as no-one could be sure another nuclear threat would not emerge in the future.
I am sure many Labour MPs will be extremely angry because it is clear the prime minister has set out a pre-determined timetable Kate HudsonCND href="http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?threadID=4881&edition=1&ttl=20061204084916" class="">Send us your comments href="/1/hi/uk_politics/6207148.stm" class="">Key points: Blair on Trident Submarine system
He said the options of changing to a land-based, or air-based nuclear weapons system had been considered and ruled out. The options of changing to a land-based, or air-based nuclear weapons system had been considered and ruled out.
Instead the system would remain one based on a fleet of submarines which carry the Trident missiles, each of which can be fitted with a number of nuclear warheads.Instead the system would remain one based on a fleet of submarines which carry the Trident missiles, each of which can be fitted with a number of nuclear warheads.
I am sure many Labour MPs will be extremely angry because it is clear the prime minister has set out a pre-determined timetable Kate HudsonCND Send us your comments Reaction to the plans
Mr Blair said between £15bn and £20bn would be spent on new submarines to carry the Trident missiles. The submarines would take 17 years to develop and build, and would last until about 2050.Mr Blair said between £15bn and £20bn would be spent on new submarines to carry the Trident missiles. The submarines would take 17 years to develop and build, and would last until about 2050.
He said the UK would also join the US programme to extend the life of the Trident missiles until 2042 - and would then "work with" the US on successor missiles.He said the UK would also join the US programme to extend the life of the Trident missiles until 2042 - and would then "work with" the US on successor missiles.
A decision on the nuclear warheads themselves "is not needed now", Mr Blair said, although the white paper said a decision would be needed in the next Parliament.A decision on the nuclear warheads themselves "is not needed now", Mr Blair said, although the white paper said a decision would be needed in the next Parliament.
MPs to vote 'Nuclear terrorism'
Mr Blair, who faces some opposition within the Labour Party to the plans, said there were "perfectly respectable" arguments about giving up nuclear weapons.Mr Blair, who faces some opposition within the Labour Party to the plans, said there were "perfectly respectable" arguments about giving up nuclear weapons.
TRIDENT MISSILE SYSTEM Missile length: 44ft (13m)Weight: 130,000lb (58,500kg)Diameter: 74 inches (1.9m)Range: More than 4,600 miles (7,400km)Power plant: Three stage solid propellant rocketCost: £16.8m ($29.1m) per missile Source: Federation of American Scientists How Trident works
But he said he had to make a judgement about the country's security and the consequences of misjudgement would be "potentially catastrophic".But he said he had to make a judgement about the country's security and the consequences of misjudgement would be "potentially catastrophic".
"The risk of giving up something that has been one of the mainstays of our security since the war... is not a risk I feel we can responsibly take," he said. He denied that Britain was under an obligation to disarm under the nuclear non-proliferation treaty and pointed out that new threats were posed by states like North Korea.
TRIDENT MISSILE SYSTEM Missile length: 44ft (13m)Weight: 130,000lb (58,500kg)Diameter: 74 inches (1.9m)Range: More than 4,600 miles (7,400km)Power plant: Three stage solid propellant rocketCost: £16.8m ($29.1m) per missile Source: Federation of American Scientists How Trident works
"In these circumstances it would be unwise and dangerous for Britain, alone of any of the nuclear powers, to give up its independent nuclear deterrent."
He also said "it is not utterly fanciful" to "imagine states sponsoring nuclear terrorism from their soil".
MPs will vote on the plans in March after a period of debate, he said.MPs will vote on the plans in March after a period of debate, he said.
Conservative leader David Cameron said his party agreed with Mr Blair's position "on substance and on timing".Conservative leader David Cameron said his party agreed with Mr Blair's position "on substance and on timing".
"It is a vital matter for our national security but it requires a long-term approach. I hope we can work together on this issue for the good of the country," he told Mr Blair.
But Liberal Democrat leader Sir Menzies Campbell said proper consideration of all relevant factors could only be made, if the decision was postponed until 2014.But Liberal Democrat leader Sir Menzies Campbell said proper consideration of all relevant factors could only be made, if the decision was postponed until 2014.
He also wants the number of UK warheads halved to 100 - a move he said could help kickstart multilateral disarmament. Security or legacy?
He added: "Why is this decision being pushed through his own Cabinet, and through Parliament, just as the prime minister is about to leave Downing Street? Is this about Britain's interests or about his legacy?"
Sir Menzies wants the number of UK warheads halved to 100 - a move he said could help kickstart multilateral disarmament.
It's hard to see what the point of the Cabinet's discussion was... BBC political editor Nick Robinson Read Nick's thoughts in full It's hard to see what the point of the Cabinet's discussion was... BBC political editor Nick Robinson Read Nick's thoughts in full
Critics believe the money would be better spent elsewhere - saying Trident was designed for the Cold War era, not the current threats to the UK such as international terrorism. Among Labour MPs who oppose replacing Trident former minister Michael Meacher asked: "How can this proposal really be justified in an utterly different post-Cold War environment?"
Kate Hudson, from the anti-nuclear pressure group, CND, said she was "very very disappointed" with Mr Blair's announcement. He argued that the move would restrict conventional defence spending, undermine the nuclear non-proliferation treaty and would take money away from the fights against terrorism, climate change and "long term energy insecurity".
And Kate Hudson, from the anti-nuclear pressure group, CND, said she was "very very disappointed" with Mr Blair's announcement.
"He talked vaguely about reducing the number of submarines and warheads but it is not clear what that would mean," she said."He talked vaguely about reducing the number of submarines and warheads but it is not clear what that would mean," she said.
"I am sure many Labour MPs will be extremely angry because it is clear the prime minister has set out a pre-determined timetable.""I am sure many Labour MPs will be extremely angry because it is clear the prime minister has set out a pre-determined timetable."