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Group of Tory traditionalists oppose move out of Palace of Westminster while SNP argues parliament could even leave London Some say move out of Palace of Westminster for multi-billion pound restoration unnecessary
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A controversial proposal for MPs and peers to vacate the traditional home of parliament is the subject of a free vote in the Commons this week, with advocates saying the Palace of Westminster is at risk of succumbing to a major fire if £3.5bn-plus of restoration works are not carried out.A controversial proposal for MPs and peers to vacate the traditional home of parliament is the subject of a free vote in the Commons this week, with advocates saying the Palace of Westminster is at risk of succumbing to a major fire if £3.5bn-plus of restoration works are not carried out.
But the idea of shifting the Commons chamber to Whitehall is resisted by a group of largely Tory traditionalists with support from some ministers who believe the Victorian building should not be left unoccupied, while the SNP argues that parliament should move out of London and embrace electronic voting. But the idea of shifting the Commons chamber to Whitehall is opposed by a group of largely Tory traditionalists with support from some ministers who believe the Victorian building should not be left unoccupied, while the SNP argues that parliament should move out of London and embrace electronic voting.
Seven fires broke out in the first 11 months of last year at the Palace, which has a postwar steam heating system with hot pipes lying next to electrical cables with minimal insulation. 200 toilets failed earlier this month and a rabbit was even spotted in one of the car parks. Seven fires broke out in the first 11 months of last year at the building, which has a postwar steam heating system with hot pipes lying next to electrical cables with minimal insulation. Two hundred toilets failed earlier this month and a rabbit was even spotted in one of the car parks.
Meg Hillier, the Labour chair of the public accounts committee, believes a comprehensive refurbishment is necessary, meaning both houses of parliament would move to temporary accommodation for six years from 2025 and at a cost of at least £3.5bn. Meg Hillier, the Labour chair of the public accounts committee, believes a comprehensive refurbishment is necessary, meaning both houses of parliament would move to temporary accommodation for six years from 2025 at a cost of at least £3.5bn.
“It’s not owned by MPs; it’s just the building where we work. It belongs to the people of Britain, it’s the mother of parliaments, it’s a Unesco world heritage site,” said Hillier, who has the support of senior Conservatives on her committee, which monitors public spending.“It’s not owned by MPs; it’s just the building where we work. It belongs to the people of Britain, it’s the mother of parliaments, it’s a Unesco world heritage site,” said Hillier, who has the support of senior Conservatives on her committee, which monitors public spending.
Sir Edward Leigh, a Conservative MP, is less convinced, arguing that “the list of dangers are very exaggerated... this is an iconic building and to close it down for 10 years would be a disaster”. He says it would be possible refurbish the building piece by piece, and when it comes to the Commons and Lords chambers, move them elsewhere on the historic site. Sir Edward Leigh, a Conservative MP, is less convinced, arguing that “the list of dangers are very exaggerated ... this is an iconic building and to close it down for 10 years would be a disaster”. He says it would be possible to refurbish the building piece by piece, and when it comes to the Commons and Lords chambers, move them elsewhere on the historic site.
The current Palace of Westminster was built in the 1840s according to designs by architect Sir Charles Barry while the gothic interiors were modelled by Augustus Pugin. Heating, sewage and electrical systems run through its cellars, with pipework so dense it’s several feet deep, while 24-hour fire patrols are deemed necessary for ongoing safety. The current Palace of Westminster was built in the 1840s according to designs by architect Sir Charles Barry while the gothic interiors were modelled by Augustus Pugin. Heating, sewage and electrical systems run through its cellars, with pipework so dense it is several feet deep, while 24-hour fire patrols are deemed necessary for ongoing safety.
The Commons chamber was bombedin 1941, forcing MPs to sit in the Lords until it was rebuilt essentially as before on the orders of Sir Winston Churchill. During that period asbestos was used widely for insulation. Restoration of the external features, such as Big Ben and the 160-year-old iron roof has already begun but while they can be undertaken as parliament’s business continues, the internal work is far more complex. The Commons chamber was bombedin 1941, forcing MPs to sit in the Lords until it was rebuilt on the orders of Sir Winston Churchill. During that period, asbestos was used widely for insulation. Restoration of the external features, such as the Elizabeth Tower that houses Big Ben and the 160-year-old iron roof has already begun but while they can be undertaken as parliament’s business continues, the internal work is far more complex.
Arguments about how to go about renovating the Palace have been raging for several years, with a special joint committee of MPs and peers concluding in 2016 that “there is a substantial and growing risk of either a single, catastrophic event”. A vote of MPs has been repeatedly delayed, but is finally due to take place on Wednesday with no party whip imposed, meaning the outcome is uncertain. Arguments about how to go about renovating the Palace of Westminster have been raging for several years, with a special joint committee of MPs and peers concluding in 2016 that “there is a substantial and growing risk of a single, catastrophic event”. A vote of MPs has been repeatedly delayed, but is finally due to take place on Wednesday with no party whip imposed, meaning the outcome is uncertain.
An amendment by Hillier calls for “a full and timely decant” of both houses: the most likely plan would see the Commons move to Richmond House on Whitehall, and the Lords to Church House on the other side of Westminster Abbey.An amendment by Hillier calls for “a full and timely decant” of both houses: the most likely plan would see the Commons move to Richmond House on Whitehall, and the Lords to Church House on the other side of Westminster Abbey.
Meanwhile, Leigh’s supporters are backing a motion put down by Andrea Leadsom, the leader of the Commons, that essentially puts off any decision until 2022, while accepting that action should be taken at some point.Meanwhile, Leigh’s supporters are backing a motion put down by Andrea Leadsom, the leader of the Commons, that essentially puts off any decision until 2022, while accepting that action should be taken at some point.
Hillier’s amendment calls for a board and a delivery authority to be created, to oversee a costed programme of work, meaning that there would be another vote to decide if MPs would actually move out once costs were set. A compromise scheme proposed by the special committee in 2016 is a partial decant where the Commons and the Lords move off site in succession over 11 years, and was costed at £4.4bn.Hillier’s amendment calls for a board and a delivery authority to be created, to oversee a costed programme of work, meaning that there would be another vote to decide if MPs would actually move out once costs were set. A compromise scheme proposed by the special committee in 2016 is a partial decant where the Commons and the Lords move off site in succession over 11 years, and was costed at £4.4bn.
An SNP amendment suggests parliament could move out of London entirely, saying that there should be a detailed assessment of relocating parliament “away from the Palace of Westminster”, although moving the legislature outside London has not seriously been examined thus far.An SNP amendment suggests parliament could move out of London entirely, saying that there should be a detailed assessment of relocating parliament “away from the Palace of Westminster”, although moving the legislature outside London has not seriously been examined thus far.
A second amendment from the SNP says that any new Commons chamber should have enough seats for all 650 MPs – the current one only has room for 426 - and enable electronic voting. A second amendment from the SNP says that any new Commons chamber should have enough seats for all 650 MPs – the current one only has room for 426 – and enable electronic voting.
They look unlikely to succeed. “It would ruin the atmosphere,” said Leigh, adding: “One more reason not to move out”. As for electronic voting, Hillier argued that “while it sounds good” it could “mean that MPs never had to be in parliament” because their votes could be made by proxies.They look unlikely to succeed. “It would ruin the atmosphere,” said Leigh, adding: “One more reason not to move out”. As for electronic voting, Hillier argued that “while it sounds good” it could “mean that MPs never had to be in parliament” because their votes could be made by proxies.
Any decision to relocate has also to be approved by the House of Lords, which is due to vote on the week after. Sources say that peers are keen to get on with restoration works and if the Commons were to vote to do nothing the upper house could vote to demand that action be taken immediately, placing it into conflict with the elected chamber. Any decision to relocate has also to be approved by the House of Lords, which is due to vote next week. Sources say that peers are keen to get on with restoration works and if the Commons were to vote to do nothing the upper house could vote to demand that action be taken immediately, placing it into conflict with the elected chamber.
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Full decant. Commons and Lords both move out of the Palace of Westminster to buildings nearby while total renovation works take place.Estimated cost: £3.5bn over six years.Full decant. Commons and Lords both move out of the Palace of Westminster to buildings nearby while total renovation works take place.Estimated cost: £3.5bn over six years.
Partial decant. Move the Commons off site first, then the Lords, renovating each in turn.Estimated cost: £4.4bn over 11 years.Partial decant. Move the Commons off site first, then the Lords, renovating each in turn.Estimated cost: £4.4bn over 11 years.
Refurbish on site. Commons and Lords chambers would still have to move, probably to Westminster Hall, during a rolling programme of upgrade works.Estimated cost: £5.7bn over 35 years.Refurbish on site. Commons and Lords chambers would still have to move, probably to Westminster Hall, during a rolling programme of upgrade works.Estimated cost: £5.7bn over 35 years.
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