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Downing Street plays down Boris Johnson comments on Ireland Theresa May 'will refuse Brexit deal that threatens UK integrity'
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Downing Street has insisted that Boris Johnson was not offering a “technical solution” to the thorny question of the Irish border when he compared it to the London congestion charge, after the comments caused outrage. Theresa May is ready to warn the EU that she will not sign up to “anything that threatens the constitutional integrity of the UK” as Boris Johnson was accused of hinting that a hard border could be reintroduced in Ireland.
Theresa May’s spokesman said Brexit officials were developing technological solutions but sought to play down the foreign secretary’s comments by insisting that he was not aware of any conversations between the government and Transport for London. A senior government source responded to reports that a legal document, to be finalised on Wednesday by the European Commission, would include a last resort scenario under which Belfast remained aligned with European single market rules.
“I thought the foreign secretary was making a comparison to demonstrate our overall approach,” he said, pointed out that there were 110 million journeys across the border between Northern Ireland and Ireland annually. The spokesman argued that people “will continue living their lives as before, travelling freely. Just as Londoners travel across boroughs each day.” That suggestion would pile pressure on the relationship between the Conservative government and DUP – who they rely on for votes in parliament – as it could pave the way for new regulatory barriers between Northern Ireland and the rest of the UK.
Johnson had told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme he thought the system of invisible checks in the capital was “a very relevant comparison” to make. “This is a draft negotiating position by the EU and not a final, binding text,” said a senior government source. “We are fully committed to implementing the December agreement, but the EU should be absolutely clear that the prime minister is not going to sign up to anything that threatens the constitutional integrity of the UK or its common market.”
“There’s no border between Islington, Camden and Westminster, but when I was mayor of London we anaesthetically and invisibly took hundreds of millions of pounds from people travelling between those two boroughs without any need for border checks,” he said.
Johnson’s comments, which came as the European Commission prepares to publish a legal text on the divorce agreement between the UK and EU, triggered an outpouring of anger and mockery.
The Fine Gael MEP Mairead McGuinness said the comments were unhelpful, adding that she was no longer shocked by what the foreign secretary had to say.
“On the border question however he must realise that two boroughs in London are in the same country. What we are talking about here is the border between the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland, which is a part of the UK and therefore in a very different space,” she told BBC Radio 4’s World at One.
Arguing that a frictionless border was hard to foresee given the necessity to check rules of origin, she said: “The solution and the possibilities that he’s proposing by technology fails to understand the history, the geography or the politics.”
Labour politicians also piled in on Twitter, with the party’s leader in the House of Lords, Lady Smith, saying:
Did I really hear Boris Johnson, the U.K. Foreign Secretary, compare the Irish border with that between 2 Boroughs in London? No, surely not even Boris could think that?? @BBCr4today
The Open Britain campaign also criticised Johnson, with one of its supporters, Chris Leslie MP, saying the comparison was “patently ridiculous” and showed “staggering insensitivity and stupefying ignorance of a conflict in which over 3,000 people died between 1969 and the signing of the Good Friday agreement”.
The comments were even raised in Brussels, where lead negotiator Michel Barnier was holding a press conference ahead of the publication on Wednesday of the document outlining the divorce agreement.
Asked about the comparison, Barnier said: “Don’t count on me today to make comments on comments or indulge in polemics. I am focused and I will continue to be focused with all of my time and energy to organise the orderly withdrawal of the UK in line with its wishes and in line with the general interest.”
The official said his task was to achieve that, adding: “What counts here is what the British prime minister says.”
Inside the EU, both Ireland and Northern Ireland are part of the single market and customs union so share the same regulations and standards, allowing a soft or invisible border between the two.Inside the EU, both Ireland and Northern Ireland are part of the single market and customs union so share the same regulations and standards, allowing a soft or invisible border between the two.
Britain’s exit from the EU – taking Northern Ireland with it – risks a return to a hard or policed border. The only way to avoid this post-Brexit is for regulations on both sides to remain more or less the same in key areas including food, animal welfare, medicines and product safety.Britain’s exit from the EU – taking Northern Ireland with it – risks a return to a hard or policed border. The only way to avoid this post-Brexit is for regulations on both sides to remain more or less the same in key areas including food, animal welfare, medicines and product safety.
Early drafts of the agreement Britain hoped to get signed off on Monday said there would be “no divergence” from EU rules that “support north-south cooperation”, later changed to “continued alignment” in a formulation that appeared to allow for subtle divergences.Early drafts of the agreement Britain hoped to get signed off on Monday said there would be “no divergence” from EU rules that “support north-south cooperation”, later changed to “continued alignment” in a formulation that appeared to allow for subtle divergences.
But it raised new questions about who would oversee it and how disputes might be resolved. It was also clearly still a step too far for the DUP.But it raised new questions about who would oversee it and how disputes might be resolved. It was also clearly still a step too far for the DUP.
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The wording of the commission’s legal document is causing concern in the UK because it will spell out that, as a last resort to avoid a hard border, Northern Ireland would remain in the EU customs union and aligned to European single market rules. Sources pointed out that the prime minister had made clear in December, when the government published a joint report with the commission on the withdrawal agreement, that while it was committing to no hard border in Ireland, there would also be no divide in the Irish sea.
The Tories are dependent on the DUP in parliament, who want a commitment of no regulatory barriers between Northern Ireland and the rest of the UK. The potential row comes as a leaked document revealed that Boris Johnson had suggested that the government’s task was not to maintain “no border” in Ireland, but to prevent it from “becoming significantly harder”.
May spoke to the taoiseach, Leo Varadkar, by phone on Monday evening to discuss the text. The foreign secretary submitted a document to the prime minister outlining how he believed the border question could be dealt with. His paper, obtained by Sky News, raised alarm bells by suggesting that even if there were a hard border, it would still allow 95% of goods to pass through unchecked.
Varadkar’s office said he had insisted the legal text spelled out the fallback option for “full regulatory alignment” on either side of the border if no agreement was reached at the end of the negotiations. A spokesman for the foreign secretary said the paper was designed to suggest how a “highly facilitated border” could work to help make a success of Brexit.
“The taoiseach also repeated the necessity from the EU side to have the detail of the backstop option of full regulatory alignment spelled out in the draft legal text of the withdrawal agreement,” his office said. “This option would only come into effect if agreement on one of the other options is not reached.” “The letter points out there is a border now and the task the committee face is stopping this becoming significantly harder,” he said. “It shows how we could manage a border without infrastructure or related checks and control while protecting UK, Northern Ireland, Irish and EU interests.”
Ireland’s tánaiste, the Irish deputy head of government, Simon Coveney, also held talks with Barnier, on Monday. Coveney said commitments made in December between the EU and the UK needed to be clearly reflected in new legal text. “EU solidarity remains strong with Ireland’s concerns,” he said after his discussions. He insisted that May and Johnson remained committed to no physical infrastructure at the border, but alternatives as the UK left the customs union.
Johnson said he did not agree regulatory alignment was the solution to the border issue. “We don’t think that is the right way forward. The prime minister said very clearly in December, when the joint report appeared, we want a different solution to the Irish border and we are confident that we can,” he said. Earlier Johnson had sparked anger by comparing the question of solving the Irish border challenge to the London congestion charge system. “There’s no border between Islington, Camden and Westminster, but when I was mayor of London we anaesthetically and invisibly took hundreds of millions of pounds from people travelling between those two boroughs without any need for border checks,” he told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme, calling it a “very relevant comparison”.
“Let me assure you, we think we can have very efficient facilitation systems to make sure there is no need for a hard border, excessive checks at the frontier.” Downing Street insisted that Johnson was not offering a “technical solution” to the problem, and added that no conversations were taking place between government officials and Transport for London.
“I thought the foreign secretary was making a comparison to demonstrate our overall approach,” he said, pointed out that there were 110m journeys across the border between Northern Ireland and Ireland annually. The spokesman argued that people “will continue living their lives as before, travelling freely. Just as Londoners travel across boroughs each day,” May’s official spokesman said.
However, the intervention provoked angry responses. The Fine Gael MEP Mairead McGuinness said the comments were unhelpful, adding that she was no longer shocked by what the foreign secretary had to say.
“On the border question, however, he must realise that two boroughs in London are in the same country. What we are talking about here is the border between the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland, which is a part of the UK and therefore in a very different space,” she told BBC Radio 4’s World at One.
Tom Brake Lib Dem MP and supporter of the Best for Britain campaign said Johnson had let the “cat out of the bag”. He said: “Boris Johnson, in spite of claiming today that the border between Northern Ireland and Ireland is no more of a problem than that between Camden and Westminster, knows that the real risk is of a hard border between NI and the Republic of Ireland. He knows this could lead to a resumption of hostilities.”
Arguing that a frictionless border was hard to foresee given the necessity of checking rules of origin, she said: “The solution and the possibilities that he’s proposing by technology fails to understand the history, the geography or the politics.”
Labour politicians also weighed in on Twitter, with the party’s leader in the House of Lords, Lady Smith, saying:
Did I really hear Boris Johnson, the U.K. Foreign Secretary, compare the Irish border with that between 2 Boroughs in London? No, surely not even Boris could think that?? @BBCr4today
The Open Britain campaign also criticised Johnson. One of its supporters, Chris Leslie MP, said the comparison was “patently ridiculous” and showed “staggering insensitivity and stupefying ignorance of a conflict in which over 3,000 people died between 1969 and the signing of the Good Friday agreement”.
The comments were even raised in Brussels, where lead negotiator Michel Barnier was holding a press conference ahead of the publication on Wednesday of the document outlining the divorce agreement. Asked about the comparison, he said: “Don’t count on me today to make comments on comments or indulge in polemics. I am focused and I will continue to be focused with all of my time and energy to organise the orderly withdrawal of the UK in line with its wishes and in line with the general interest.”
The official said his task was to achieve that, adding: “What counts here is what the British prime minister says.”
The commission’s text could also cause tension if the EU demands an ongoing role for the European Court of Justice after Brexit, something that May has been clear is a red line for the government.
She spoke to the taoiseach, Leo Varadkar, by phone on Monday evening to discuss the document that will be published by the commission. “The taoiseach also repeated the necessity from the EU side to have the detail of the backstop option of full regulatory alignment spelled out in the draft legal text of the withdrawal agreement,” Varadkar’s office said. “This option would only come into effect if agreement on one of the other options is not reached.”
Ireland’s tánaiste, the deputy head of government, Simon Coveney, also held talks with Barnier on Monday. Coveney said commitments made in December between the EU and the UK needed to be clearly reflected in new legal text. “EU solidarity remains strong with Ireland’s concerns,” he said after his discussions.
Ireland’s taoiseach, Leo Varadkar, has been much more sceptical than the UK about the potential for avoiding border posts via virtual checks on importers. Whilst agreeing with British ministers and EU negotiators that it is inconceivable for there to be a return to a hard border with the north, Dublin argues that the best way for the UK to achieve this would be by permanently remaining in a customs union with the EU and seeking single market membership like Norway through the European Economic Area. The UK has conceded that some of this will be necessary in its interim phase after Brexit, but hopes clever technological solutions can allow it have looser economic links in the long run. Varadkar is not alone in being sceptical about whether such a cake-and-eat-it customs and trade strategy is viable.Ireland’s taoiseach, Leo Varadkar, has been much more sceptical than the UK about the potential for avoiding border posts via virtual checks on importers. Whilst agreeing with British ministers and EU negotiators that it is inconceivable for there to be a return to a hard border with the north, Dublin argues that the best way for the UK to achieve this would be by permanently remaining in a customs union with the EU and seeking single market membership like Norway through the European Economic Area. The UK has conceded that some of this will be necessary in its interim phase after Brexit, but hopes clever technological solutions can allow it have looser economic links in the long run. Varadkar is not alone in being sceptical about whether such a cake-and-eat-it customs and trade strategy is viable.
Johnson also said the ending the jurisdiction of the European court of justice remained a red line in the negotiations. The EU is reportedly set to demand this week in its draft withdrawal agreement that the UK remains indefinitely subject to the court as the final arbiter of future treaty disputes, according to the Financial Times.
The EU will argue that the jurisdiction cannot be time-limited to a two-year transition, because the divorce deal covers payments from the UK to the EU that could continue for more than a decade.
Johnson said that was not acceptable. “I say, no that won’t happen, because that’s been expressly ruled out by the British people,” he said. “We can’t remain subject to the ECJ, because we are taking back control of our laws. I think there is a very good deal to be done.”
May’s spokesman also reiterated her position on the ECJ, but said he would wait for the document to be published to comment further.
A quote from the No 10 spokesman in the third paragraph was amended to correct the number of journeys made across the border between Northern Ireland and the Republic
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