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| Chelsea Handler: The #MeToo Movement Is a ‘Complete Referendum’ on Trump | Chelsea Handler: The #MeToo Movement Is a ‘Complete Referendum’ on Trump |
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| Chelsea Handler, the comedian and author, spoke forcefully about women, power, privilege and politics on Thursday night, calling the sexual harassment revelations and outrage that have emerged as part of the #MeToo movement “a complete referendum on Donald Trump being elected to the presidency.” | Chelsea Handler, the comedian and author, spoke forcefully about women, power, privilege and politics on Thursday night, calling the sexual harassment revelations and outrage that have emerged as part of the #MeToo movement “a complete referendum on Donald Trump being elected to the presidency.” |
| In an interview at Syracuse University with Megan Twohey of The New York Times, Ms. Handler spoke candidly about her personal experience breaking into Hollywood, how it shaped her perspective and her more recent decision to take up activism to promote women’s voices. | In an interview at Syracuse University with Megan Twohey of The New York Times, Ms. Handler spoke candidly about her personal experience breaking into Hollywood, how it shaped her perspective and her more recent decision to take up activism to promote women’s voices. |
| The interview was part of a live conversation series called “Get With The Times,” which aims to inspire students to get involved in issues that matter to them. | The interview was part of a live conversation series called “Get With The Times,” which aims to inspire students to get involved in issues that matter to them. |
| Early in their conversation, Ms. Twohey, one of the reporters who last fall broke the news of Harvey Weinstein’s decades of alleged sexual harassment of women, asked Ms. Handler whether she had been sexually harassed. Ms. Handler, 43, said she had not, but emphasized that it was important for people to recognize that the harassment is happening and that it’s everyone’s problem. | Early in their conversation, Ms. Twohey, one of the reporters who last fall broke the news of Harvey Weinstein’s decades of alleged sexual harassment of women, asked Ms. Handler whether she had been sexually harassed. Ms. Handler, 43, said she had not, but emphasized that it was important for people to recognize that the harassment is happening and that it’s everyone’s problem. |
| “Seventeen million women across the world have been sexually assaulted,” she said. “It’s all over the place. So to ignore it is to live in a lane and be delusional about your own experience.” | “Seventeen million women across the world have been sexually assaulted,” she said. “It’s all over the place. So to ignore it is to live in a lane and be delusional about your own experience.” |
| Here are some other takeaways. Watch the full conversation here. | |
| Ms. Handler noted that while more than half of white women who voted cast their ballots for Mr. Trump, more than 90 percent of black women did not. | Ms. Handler noted that while more than half of white women who voted cast their ballots for Mr. Trump, more than 90 percent of black women did not. |
| “Black people know how to vote in their best interest,” she said. “And women sometimes don’t.” | “Black people know how to vote in their best interest,” she said. “And women sometimes don’t.” |
| Ms. Handler argued that women have conditioned themselves to compete with each other, because there are fewer slots for them than there are for men; she added later that in the world of comedy, “the people that held me back the most were women” in positions of power. | Ms. Handler argued that women have conditioned themselves to compete with each other, because there are fewer slots for them than there are for men; she added later that in the world of comedy, “the people that held me back the most were women” in positions of power. |
| Still, she said, that sort of thinking is misguided. | Still, she said, that sort of thinking is misguided. |
| “We’re stronger when we’re together and stick together and vote in our best interests,” she said, “and we have a group, and we say, ‘No more.’” | “We’re stronger when we’re together and stick together and vote in our best interests,” she said, “and we have a group, and we say, ‘No more.’” |
| “Now we know it’s O.K. if one of us succeeds, because that means more of us succeed,” she continued. | “Now we know it’s O.K. if one of us succeeds, because that means more of us succeed,” she continued. |
| Although Ms. Handler is active on social media — she has more than eight million followers on Twitter — she told Ms. Twohey she hates the platforms. | Although Ms. Handler is active on social media — she has more than eight million followers on Twitter — she told Ms. Twohey she hates the platforms. |
| “It’s good messaging,” she said, but “sometimes it’s undignified.” | “It’s good messaging,” she said, but “sometimes it’s undignified.” |
| Ms. Handler argued that big tech companies are “controlling our brains.” | Ms. Handler argued that big tech companies are “controlling our brains.” |
| “I don’t want little girls to look on Instagram and see the groups of people that they were left out of that weekend,” she said. “I hope there’s some sort of backlash.” | “I don’t want little girls to look on Instagram and see the groups of people that they were left out of that weekend,” she said. “I hope there’s some sort of backlash.” |
| As the 40-minute conversation was wrapping up, Ms. Handler noted that as a stand-up comedian, she had been fortunate to essentially be the boss. | As the 40-minute conversation was wrapping up, Ms. Handler noted that as a stand-up comedian, she had been fortunate to essentially be the boss. |
| “But I definitely have had men that worked for me that were inappropriate with women that have worked for me, and I didn’t necessarily take it as seriously as I would now,” she said. | “But I definitely have had men that worked for me that were inappropriate with women that have worked for me, and I didn’t necessarily take it as seriously as I would now,” she said. |
| She pointed out that a societal correction had occurred in response to the #MeToo movement. “Most people meet somebody at work,” she said. “Now, nobody can even say anything at work. But it’s necessary.” | She pointed out that a societal correction had occurred in response to the #MeToo movement. “Most people meet somebody at work,” she said. “Now, nobody can even say anything at work. But it’s necessary.” |
| “After the fact, so many of the people that worked for me told me stories about the guys,” she continued. “I wish I had known more, and I wish I had done more, and, you know, I’m not proud of that. It’s not O.K. It’s not O.K. for a woman to feel threatened because there’s a superior that’s a male. Obviously that can’t happen anymore.” | “After the fact, so many of the people that worked for me told me stories about the guys,” she continued. “I wish I had known more, and I wish I had done more, and, you know, I’m not proud of that. It’s not O.K. It’s not O.K. for a woman to feel threatened because there’s a superior that’s a male. Obviously that can’t happen anymore.” |