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Leonard calls for cross-party talks to break Brexit deadlock | Leonard calls for cross-party talks to break Brexit deadlock |
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Richard Leonard says cross-party talks are needed to break the Brexit deadlock. | Richard Leonard says cross-party talks are needed to break the Brexit deadlock. |
The Scottish Labour leader has written to Cabinet Office Minister David Lidington and Scottish Brexit minister Michael Russell. | The Scottish Labour leader has written to Cabinet Office Minister David Lidington and Scottish Brexit minister Michael Russell. |
He wants to see the UK and Scottish governments and all political parties around the table to get negotiations moving on the EU withdrawal Bill. | He wants to see the UK and Scottish governments and all political parties around the table to get negotiations moving on the EU withdrawal Bill. |
He says all of the parliament should have input. | He says all of the parliament should have input. |
Scottish Brexit Minister Michael Russell said it was unclear what views the other parties would have and pointed out that he meets representatives from the other parties on a regular basis. | |
Mr Leonard, speaking on BBC Scotland's Sunday Politics Scotland programme, said: "As there appears to be a breakdown in trust between the two governments, there really needs to be an alternative way found forwards. | Mr Leonard, speaking on BBC Scotland's Sunday Politics Scotland programme, said: "As there appears to be a breakdown in trust between the two governments, there really needs to be an alternative way found forwards. |
"There is a lot at stake with the EU Withdrawal Bill and the devolution aspect of it, and it appears that we are heading towards a situation where the Scottish Parliament on Tuesday will almost certainly vote down a legislative consent motion on the EU Withdrawal Bill because of the treatment of devolution within it the way it is currently constructed. | "There is a lot at stake with the EU Withdrawal Bill and the devolution aspect of it, and it appears that we are heading towards a situation where the Scottish Parliament on Tuesday will almost certainly vote down a legislative consent motion on the EU Withdrawal Bill because of the treatment of devolution within it the way it is currently constructed. |
"I think there is still an opportunity to find a constructive way forward which will allow us to find agreement, because I think that is, in the end, where we want to be. | "I think there is still an opportunity to find a constructive way forward which will allow us to find agreement, because I think that is, in the end, where we want to be. |
"I am suggesting that there needs to be, at this stage, a widening of the discussion around a resolution which will involve other parties beyond those who are represented in the two governments." | "I am suggesting that there needs to be, at this stage, a widening of the discussion around a resolution which will involve other parties beyond those who are represented in the two governments." |
'Fresh eyes' | 'Fresh eyes' |
Mr Leonard believes there should be a meeting which also involves the Liberal Democrats, Scottish Labour and the Scottish Greens to explore if the group can together find a way through the deadlock. | Mr Leonard believes there should be a meeting which also involves the Liberal Democrats, Scottish Labour and the Scottish Greens to explore if the group can together find a way through the deadlock. |
He said: "There are 24 areas of EU repatriated powers which clearly, in my view, have some intersection with devolved powers and they are still in dispute. | He said: "There are 24 areas of EU repatriated powers which clearly, in my view, have some intersection with devolved powers and they are still in dispute. |
"There are some which are, fairly obviously to me, clearly devolved, like public procurement but there are some which probably are best set at a UK internal market level like food labelling, but they remain outstanding issues. | "There are some which are, fairly obviously to me, clearly devolved, like public procurement but there are some which probably are best set at a UK internal market level like food labelling, but they remain outstanding issues. |
"I think there needs to be a fresh set of eyes to find our way through that." | "I think there needs to be a fresh set of eyes to find our way through that." |
Mr Leonard agreed with the Scottish government's position that the parliament should have a veto power over any proposals to keep issues at a UK level. | Mr Leonard agreed with the Scottish government's position that the parliament should have a veto power over any proposals to keep issues at a UK level. |
But he said what those things are should be agreed and voted on by the Scottish Parliament. | But he said what those things are should be agreed and voted on by the Scottish Parliament. |
'At odds with Wales' | 'At odds with Wales' |
He said he felt there were many powers being repatriated from the EU as a result of Brexit which fall fairly to the devolved parliament. | He said he felt there were many powers being repatriated from the EU as a result of Brexit which fall fairly to the devolved parliament. |
And he said he believed there was a way to break the deadlock. | And he said he believed there was a way to break the deadlock. |
Mr Leonard said: "I think that the Labour Party, as the party that delivered devolution, which has got a different tradition in a sense from either the SNP government in Edinburgh or the Tory government at a UK level, can bring to bear a way through this." | Mr Leonard said: "I think that the Labour Party, as the party that delivered devolution, which has got a different tradition in a sense from either the SNP government in Edinburgh or the Tory government at a UK level, can bring to bear a way through this." |
"There is a role for Labour, LibDems and the Greens." | "There is a role for Labour, LibDems and the Greens." |
However, Scottish Brexit Minister Michael Russell said it was unclear to him exactly what views the other parties would have. | |
He said: "I meet with people from other parties on a regular basis and give them a full account of the discussions. If they have a view about what is not being done I would like to hear it now. | |
"If the UK government wants to widen the discussions and we are agreeable on a way to do so, we could do so but I think it would have to be on the basis there was something worth working on and as yet I have not heard that from them or anyone else. | |
"Labour know perfectly clearly what the position of the Scottish Parliament is and, of course, Labour will have the chance to influence that themselves on Tuesday when I hope the whole parliament will say the power grab is unacceptable." | |
Richard Leonard's position puts his party at odds with Labour in Wales, which had teamed up with the Scottish government to refuse granting consent, but struck a deal with UK ministers last month. | |
The Scottish government insists it cannot back the EU Withdrawal Bill, claiming measures within it could leave Holyrood constrained by Westminster for up to seven years. | The Scottish government insists it cannot back the EU Withdrawal Bill, claiming measures within it could leave Holyrood constrained by Westminster for up to seven years. |
Both sides have agreed the need to create UK-wide frameworks in some areas but Scottish ministers insist Holyrood's consent should be formally sought for any changes, while UK ministers say a veto for any part of the UK is a "red line". | Both sides have agreed the need to create UK-wide frameworks in some areas but Scottish ministers insist Holyrood's consent should be formally sought for any changes, while UK ministers say a veto for any part of the UK is a "red line". |
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