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The two US vice-presidential candidates have traded blows on the financial crisis, climate change and foreign policy in their only TV debate.The two US vice-presidential candidates have traded blows on the financial crisis, climate change and foreign policy in their only TV debate.
Democrat Joe Biden sought to link Republican presidential candidate John McCain to the policies of President Bush, saying he was "no maverick".Democrat Joe Biden sought to link Republican presidential candidate John McCain to the policies of President Bush, saying he was "no maverick".
Republican Sarah Palin defended herself against claims of inexperience and said the McCain ticket would bring change.Republican Sarah Palin defended herself against claims of inexperience and said the McCain ticket would bring change.
Voter polls suggested Mr Biden had won but Mrs Palin did better than expected.Voter polls suggested Mr Biden had won but Mrs Palin did better than expected.
The debate at Washington University in St Louis, Missouri, was seen as particularly crucial for Mrs Palin, whose poll ratings have fallen.The debate at Washington University in St Louis, Missouri, was seen as particularly crucial for Mrs Palin, whose poll ratings have fallen.
The BBC's Jane O'Brien in Washington says Mrs Palin played to her strengths and her image as a mother in touch with ordinary Americans.The BBC's Jane O'Brien in Washington says Mrs Palin played to her strengths and her image as a mother in touch with ordinary Americans.
For the most part she spoke fluently but simply about the economy, climate change and the war in Iraq, our correspondent says, and there were few of the stumbling gaffes that have become the staple of late-night comedy shows.For the most part she spoke fluently but simply about the economy, climate change and the war in Iraq, our correspondent says, and there were few of the stumbling gaffes that have become the staple of late-night comedy shows.
Two polls conducted after the debate, by US networks CNN and CBS News, judged Mr Biden the winner. However, the CNN poll found a large majority thought Mrs Palin had done better than expected.Two polls conducted after the debate, by US networks CNN and CBS News, judged Mr Biden the winner. However, the CNN poll found a large majority thought Mrs Palin had done better than expected.
'Hockey moms''Hockey moms'
Asked by moderator Gwen Ifill who was at fault for the current problems with the US banking system, Mrs Palin blamed predatory lenders and "greed and corruption" on Wall Street.Asked by moderator Gwen Ifill who was at fault for the current problems with the US banking system, Mrs Palin blamed predatory lenders and "greed and corruption" on Wall Street.
It would be a travesty if we were to quit now in Iraq Sarah PalinRepublican VP nominee Biden and Palin dodge pitfallsDebate as it happenedExperts score the debateIn quotes: Palin and Biden debateHockey moms rate the debateIt would be a travesty if we were to quit now in Iraq Sarah PalinRepublican VP nominee Biden and Palin dodge pitfallsDebate as it happenedExperts score the debateIn quotes: Palin and Biden debateHockey moms rate the debate
Senator McCain would "put partisanship aside" to help resolve the crisis, she said, and had raised the alarm over mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac long ago.Senator McCain would "put partisanship aside" to help resolve the crisis, she said, and had raised the alarm over mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac long ago.
She said "Joe six-packs and hockey moms across the country" - referring to middle-class voters - needed to say "never again" to Wall Street chiefs.She said "Joe six-packs and hockey moms across the country" - referring to middle-class voters - needed to say "never again" to Wall Street chiefs.
Mrs Palin also accused Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama of seeking to raise taxes but Mr Biden rejected that claim.Mrs Palin also accused Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama of seeking to raise taxes but Mr Biden rejected that claim.
He said the economic crisis was evidence that the policies of the past eight years had been "the worst we've ever had" and accused Mr McCain of being "out of touch" on the economy.He said the economic crisis was evidence that the policies of the past eight years had been "the worst we've ever had" and accused Mr McCain of being "out of touch" on the economy.
Senator Obama's plan to raise taxes on households earning over $250,000 was "fairness", Mr Biden said, unlike Mr McCain's proposals for more tax breaks for big companies.Senator Obama's plan to raise taxes on households earning over $250,000 was "fairness", Mr Biden said, unlike Mr McCain's proposals for more tax breaks for big companies.
'Dead wrong''Dead wrong'
On foreign policy, Mrs Palin accused Mr Obama of refusing to acknowledge that the "surge" strategy of extra troops in Iraq had worked. He's not been a maverick on virtually anything that people talk about around the kitchen table Joe BidenDemocratic VP nominee "It would be a travesty if we were to quit now in Iraq," she said, describing Mr Obama's plan to withdraw combat troops a "white flag of surrender".On foreign policy, Mrs Palin accused Mr Obama of refusing to acknowledge that the "surge" strategy of extra troops in Iraq had worked. He's not been a maverick on virtually anything that people talk about around the kitchen table Joe BidenDemocratic VP nominee "It would be a travesty if we were to quit now in Iraq," she said, describing Mr Obama's plan to withdraw combat troops a "white flag of surrender".
Mr Biden countered by saying Mr McCain had been "dead wrong" on Iraq and had yet to present a plan to end the conflict.Mr Biden countered by saying Mr McCain had been "dead wrong" on Iraq and had yet to present a plan to end the conflict.
He said the US was wasting $10bn a month in Iraq while ignoring the real front line in the fight against terrorism, Afghanistan.He said the US was wasting $10bn a month in Iraq while ignoring the real front line in the fight against terrorism, Afghanistan.
In turn, Mrs Palin said Mr Obama was naive for saying he was willing to talk directly to the leaders of Iran, North Korea and Cuba. "That is beyond bad judgment. That is dangerous," she said.In turn, Mrs Palin said Mr Obama was naive for saying he was willing to talk directly to the leaders of Iran, North Korea and Cuba. "That is beyond bad judgment. That is dangerous," she said.
The pair also sparred on the issue of climate change.The pair also sparred on the issue of climate change.
Mrs Palin, governor of energy-rich Alaska, said human activities were a factor in climate change but that climatic cycles were also an element. She urged US energy independence as part of the answer. Key words used most frequently by Joe Biden in the debateEnlarge ImageMrs Palin, governor of energy-rich Alaska, said human activities were a factor in climate change but that climatic cycles were also an element. She urged US energy independence as part of the answer. Key words used most frequently by Joe Biden in the debateEnlarge Image
Mr Biden pointed to climate change as one of the major points on which the two campaigns differed, saying: "If you don't understand what the cause is, it's virtually impossible to come up with a solution."Mr Biden pointed to climate change as one of the major points on which the two campaigns differed, saying: "If you don't understand what the cause is, it's virtually impossible to come up with a solution."
He said he and Mr Obama backed "clean-coal" technology and accused Mr McCain of having voted against funding for alternative energy projects and seeing only one solution: "Drill, drill, drill."He said he and Mr Obama backed "clean-coal" technology and accused Mr McCain of having voted against funding for alternative energy projects and seeing only one solution: "Drill, drill, drill."
While Mrs Palin described her party's candidate as "the consummate maverick", her rival argued that Mr McCain had followed the Bush administration's policies on important issues such as Iraq.While Mrs Palin described her party's candidate as "the consummate maverick", her rival argued that Mr McCain had followed the Bush administration's policies on important issues such as Iraq.
"He's not been a maverick on virtually anything that people talk about around the kitchen table," Mr Biden said."He's not been a maverick on virtually anything that people talk about around the kitchen table," Mr Biden said.
Overall, commentators highlighted Mrs Palin's frequent use of a "folksy" style, for example using expressions like "doggone it" and telling her opponent: "Aw, say it ain't so, Joe."Overall, commentators highlighted Mrs Palin's frequent use of a "folksy" style, for example using expressions like "doggone it" and telling her opponent: "Aw, say it ain't so, Joe."
They also noted how Mr Biden appeared emotional as he talked about raising his two young sons alone after a car crash killed his first wife.They also noted how Mr Biden appeared emotional as he talked about raising his two young sons alone after a car crash killed his first wife.
Poll shiftPoll shift
According to a Pew Research Center poll, two-thirds of voters planned to follow the debate, far more than in 2004.Sarah Palin was a huge hit at the Republican convention last monthAccording to a Pew Research Center poll, two-thirds of voters planned to follow the debate, far more than in 2004.Sarah Palin was a huge hit at the Republican convention last month
A new poll by the Washington Post suggests that 60% of voters now see Mrs Palin as lacking the experience to be an effective president.A new poll by the Washington Post suggests that 60% of voters now see Mrs Palin as lacking the experience to be an effective president.
One-third say they are less likely to vote for the Senator McCain, as a result. One-third say they are less likely to vote for Senator McCain, as a result.
Independent voters, who are not affiliated to either political party, have the most sceptical views of the 44-year-old Alaska governor.Independent voters, who are not affiliated to either political party, have the most sceptical views of the 44-year-old Alaska governor.
Another poll, for CBS News, gives Senator Barack Obama 49% to 40% for Mr McCain.Another poll, for CBS News, gives Senator Barack Obama 49% to 40% for Mr McCain.
It is the latest in a series of opinion polls that have shown a significant shift in the direction of Mr Obama since the economic crisis began.It is the latest in a series of opinion polls that have shown a significant shift in the direction of Mr Obama since the economic crisis began.
Mrs Palin, whose fiery speech at last month's Republican convention inspired Christian conservatives, produces unusually strong feelings - both positive and negative - among voters.Mrs Palin, whose fiery speech at last month's Republican convention inspired Christian conservatives, produces unusually strong feelings - both positive and negative - among voters.
Key words used most frequently by Sarah Palin in the debateEnlarge ImageKey words used most frequently by Sarah Palin in the debateEnlarge Image
Although Mrs Palin has succeeded in mobilising conservative Republicans, her key challenge is to appeal to the swing voters who could determine who will win the battleground states, analysts say.Although Mrs Palin has succeeded in mobilising conservative Republicans, her key challenge is to appeal to the swing voters who could determine who will win the battleground states, analysts say.
In particular, she needs to win over the "Wal-Mart moms" - white, working-class married women.In particular, she needs to win over the "Wal-Mart moms" - white, working-class married women.
A recent poll of customers of discount giant Wal-Mart suggested that Mr McCain was slightly ahead with this group in Ohio and Florida, while Mr Obama was leading in Virginia and Colorado.A recent poll of customers of discount giant Wal-Mart suggested that Mr McCain was slightly ahead with this group in Ohio and Florida, while Mr Obama was leading in Virginia and Colorado.
Meanwhile, the McCain campaign is scaling back its operations in another swing state, Michigan, effectively conceding the advantage to Mr Obama there.Meanwhile, the McCain campaign is scaling back its operations in another swing state, Michigan, effectively conceding the advantage to Mr Obama there.