This article is from the source 'bbc' and was first published or seen on . It will not be checked again for changes.

You can find the current article at its original source at http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi/uk/7685908.stm

The article has changed 12 times. There is an RSS feed of changes available.

Version 3 Version 4
Police miscount serious violence Police miscount serious violence
(about 1 hour later)
Some police forces have been undercounting some of the most serious violent crimes in England and Wales, the Home Office has admitted.Some police forces have been undercounting some of the most serious violent crimes in England and Wales, the Home Office has admitted.
Officials said some crimes that should have been classed as grievous bodily harm were recorded as a lesser assault.Officials said some crimes that should have been classed as grievous bodily harm were recorded as a lesser assault.
As a result, overall violent crime remains down compared with last year - but the official total of most serious violent crime has gone up by 22%.As a result, overall violent crime remains down compared with last year - but the official total of most serious violent crime has gone up by 22%.
Policing Minister Vernon Coaker said crime figures could still be trusted.Policing Minister Vernon Coaker said crime figures could still be trusted.
The overall number of crimes recorded by police in England and Wales fell 6%.The overall number of crimes recorded by police in England and Wales fell 6%.
Of 17 forces that contacted the Home Office to indicate that there may be a problem with their figures, 13 were asked to conduct a re-count. Keith Bristow, from the Association of Chief Police Officers, said "most, if not all" of the 43 police forces in England and Wales, plus British Transport Police, were to some extent misinterpreting the guidance on recording grievous bodily harm with intent. We are clear that we are concerned about serious violence, that's why we went back to make sure we were counting it properly in the first place, Jacqui Smith, Home Secretary
As a result such incidents were not put in the "most serious" violent crime category.
When the Home Office clarified the guidance this year, 17 forces, according to the Home Office statisticians, showed "above average" increases in GBH with intent, suggesting that they were the ones who were misinterpreting the guidance the most.
Of these 17 forces, 13 were able to provide further information on their figures to the Home Office.
Ministers concede they do not know how long the problem has been going on and the Home Office will not say which police forces have been misclassifying the incidents of grievous bodily harm.Ministers concede they do not know how long the problem has been going on and the Home Office will not say which police forces have been misclassifying the incidents of grievous bodily harm.
The figures indicate that the types of offence that have been miscounted would include serious alcohol-fueled violence where the attacker had intended serious harm - but the victim has escaped significant injury.The figures indicate that the types of offence that have been miscounted would include serious alcohol-fueled violence where the attacker had intended serious harm - but the victim has escaped significant injury.
Home Secretary Jacqui Smith on undercounting crimeHome Secretary Jacqui Smith on undercounting crime
Home Secretary Jacqui Smith told the BBC all of the crimes in question had been investigated by the police.Home Secretary Jacqui Smith told the BBC all of the crimes in question had been investigated by the police.
She said: "Let's be clear, this isn't crime that wasn't being recorded or wasn't being reported or wasn't being dealt with. It just wasn't being recorded in the category 'most serious violence'. "So all of this crime has been dealt with.She said: "Let's be clear, this isn't crime that wasn't being recorded or wasn't being reported or wasn't being dealt with. It just wasn't being recorded in the category 'most serious violence'. "So all of this crime has been dealt with.
"It's just that I wanted to focus particularly on most serious violence and therefore we needed to be sure that everybody in terms of categorising it was categorising it in the same way, so that we'd be able to track whether or not all the things that we're putting into place are making a difference.""It's just that I wanted to focus particularly on most serious violence and therefore we needed to be sure that everybody in terms of categorising it was categorising it in the same way, so that we'd be able to track whether or not all the things that we're putting into place are making a difference."
Ms Smith also said that "one interesting feature" of the statistics being published was that gun crime was also down by 22%.Ms Smith also said that "one interesting feature" of the statistics being published was that gun crime was also down by 22%.
'Uncomfortable reading''Uncomfortable reading'
She added that overall violent crime was down, and "what the statisticians are clear about is that the increases in the most serious forms of violence have actually in terms of numbers been more than counteracted by the decreases in less serious violence." CRIMES AFFECTED BY MISCOUNT Grievous Bodily Harm "with intent":Where attacker wants to inflict serious injuryIncidents include serious pub-fights, use of broken bottles etcProblem arose where victim escaped with minor or no injuriesSome officers previously classed these attacks as lesser assaults, but should have classed them as seriousMajority of forces correctly classified these incidents, but a minority did not She added that overall violent crime was down, and "what the statisticians are clear about is that the increases in the most serious forms of violence have actually in terms of numbers been more than counteracted by the decreases in less serious violence."
She added: "We are clear that we are concerned about serious violence, that's why we went back to make sure we were counting it properly in the first place, and more importantly that's why we have taken the action we have done in terms of tackling knives."She added: "We are clear that we are concerned about serious violence, that's why we went back to make sure we were counting it properly in the first place, and more importantly that's why we have taken the action we have done in terms of tackling knives."
Keith Bristow, Association of Chief Police Officers lead for violence and public protection and Chief Constable of Warwickshire, said the impact of changes made to the way in which some crime is recorded will make "uncomfortable reading". Mr Bristow, who is also Chief Constable of Warwickshire, said the impact of changes made to the way in which some crime is recorded will make "uncomfortable reading".
He said: "Apparent increases in some categories of violent crime are strongly influenced by these counting amendments which were introduced by the Home Office in April 2008. He said: "Apparent increases in some categories of violent crime are strongly influenced by these counting amendments which were introduced by the Home Office in April 2008. CRIMES AFFECTED BY MISCOUNT Grievous Bodily Harm "with intent":Where attacker wants to inflict serious injuryIncidents include serious pub-fights, use of broken bottles etcProblem arose where victim escaped with minor or no injuriesSome officers previously classed these attacks as lesser assaults, but should have classed them as seriousMajority of forces correctly classified these incidents, but a minority did not
"ACPO supported the amendments to the counting arrangements as these changes will improve our understanding of neighbourhoods affected by crime."ACPO supported the amendments to the counting arrangements as these changes will improve our understanding of neighbourhoods affected by crime.
"Some categories of crime have historically suffered from under reporting by the public, such as sexual assault and domestic abuse. The Police Service continues to actively encourage the public to report these types of offences."Some categories of crime have historically suffered from under reporting by the public, such as sexual assault and domestic abuse. The Police Service continues to actively encourage the public to report these types of offences.
"While the statistics published today show that crime continues to fall year-on-year the public is rightly concerned about aspects of violent crime and disorder.""While the statistics published today show that crime continues to fall year-on-year the public is rightly concerned about aspects of violent crime and disorder."
Shadow home secretary Dominic Grieve said: "These figures fatally undermine government spin that violent crime was getting better and betray a government that is completely out of touch with what is going on, on our streets and in our communities.
"Labour's target-driven approach has simply been to manipulate the statistics.
"They should now face up to the reality of their failure and realise that if you can't count a problem, you can't combat it.
"In any event, serious violent crime would still have increased before miscounting was revealed."


Have you ever reported a serious crime? What was your experience of how the crime was recorded? Send your comments to the BBC using the form below:Have you ever reported a serious crime? What was your experience of how the crime was recorded? Send your comments to the BBC using the form below:
In most cases a selection of your comments will be published, displaying your name and location unless you state otherwise in the box below.In most cases a selection of your comments will be published, displaying your name and location unless you state otherwise in the box below.
Name
Name