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Armed police fired on Jean Charles de Menezes without shouting any warning, a witness has told an inquest.Armed police fired on Jean Charles de Menezes without shouting any warning, a witness has told an inquest.
Commuter Ralph Livock said he had "no idea" whether the men who shot dead the Brazilian, who was sitting opposite him on the Tube, were police or terrorists. Commuter Ralph Livock said he had "no idea" the men who shot dead the Brazilian at Stockwell Tube station on 22 July 2005 were police.
Firearms officers have told the inquest there were several warning shouts of "armed police" before shots were fired.Firearms officers have told the inquest there were several warning shouts of "armed police" before shots were fired.
Mr de Menezes, 27, was killed by police who mistook him for one of the failed 21 July 2005 London bombers.Mr de Menezes, 27, was killed by police who mistook him for one of the failed 21 July 2005 London bombers.
The inquest has been told a surveillance officer had positively identified Mr de Menezes as failed suicide bomber Hussain Osman.
Mr Livock said he and girlfriend Rachel Wilson were sitting opposite Mr de Menezes in a Tube carriage the day after the failed bombings.
He recalled their train was held up for longer than usual when four casually-dressed men armed with guns got on board.
'Group of lads'
Nicholas Hilliard QC, counsel to the inquest, asked him: "Did you have any idea who they were?"
Mr Livock said: "Absolutely not."
He said he initially thought the plainclothes officers were "a group of lads who were just having a laugh" because they were just dressed in jeans and T-shirts.
Mr Hilliard asked: "Had you heard anything said about police?"
Mr Livock replied: "No, certainly not.
"I remember that specifically because one of the conversations that Rachel and I had afterwards was that we had no idea whether these were police, whether they were terrorists, whether they were somebody else.
"The thing that made me realise it wasn't a group of lads playing around or something else happening was when the first shot was fired."
The inquest continues.