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| 'May has no credibility left': readers on the Brexit deal | 'May has no credibility left': readers on the Brexit deal |
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| ‘Brexit, always an impossible fantasy, is unravelling’ | ‘Brexit, always an impossible fantasy, is unravelling’ |
| May, along with her plan, is dead in the water. The proposed agreement (should we now call it the “Draft Disagreement”?) seems unlikely to get through parliament and she now has no credibility left. Brexit, always an impossible fantasy, is unravelling. Surely this whole charade needs to be given a quiet burial and Article 50 rescinded so that we can move on to rebuilding our links with the EU as a fully-engaged member? CaroleB999 | May, along with her plan, is dead in the water. The proposed agreement (should we now call it the “Draft Disagreement”?) seems unlikely to get through parliament and she now has no credibility left. Brexit, always an impossible fantasy, is unravelling. Surely this whole charade needs to be given a quiet burial and Article 50 rescinded so that we can move on to rebuilding our links with the EU as a fully-engaged member? CaroleB999 |
| ‘The argument that “democracy has spoken” does not hold true’ | ‘The argument that “democracy has spoken” does not hold true’ |
| It is becoming increasingly obvious that the whole decision should be passed back to the electorate. The argument from the likes of Jacob Rees-Mogg etc that “democracy has spoken” does not hold true. In June 2016 the people of this country were asked to sign a blank cheque after a campaign of lies and myths, “easy trade deals, 350 million for the NHS”. It has been proven over the past two wasted years Brexit is creating a crisis not seen since Suez and the second world war. Brexiteers are running scared of another vote, many young adults now have the vote, it is their future that is being played with. I should add I am 68 years old and a staunch remainer: the EU is not perfect but the alternative is much, much worse. kimorris | It is becoming increasingly obvious that the whole decision should be passed back to the electorate. The argument from the likes of Jacob Rees-Mogg etc that “democracy has spoken” does not hold true. In June 2016 the people of this country were asked to sign a blank cheque after a campaign of lies and myths, “easy trade deals, 350 million for the NHS”. It has been proven over the past two wasted years Brexit is creating a crisis not seen since Suez and the second world war. Brexiteers are running scared of another vote, many young adults now have the vote, it is their future that is being played with. I should add I am 68 years old and a staunch remainer: the EU is not perfect but the alternative is much, much worse. kimorris |
| ‘We couldn’t even negotiate the divorce settlement like professionals’ | ‘We couldn’t even negotiate the divorce settlement like professionals’ |
| Dominic Raab’s resignation could spell the end for May’s Brexit plan | Katy Balls | |
| You know what’s tragically hilarious about all of this? One of the reasons people want to leave the EU is because they believe the UK can negotiate stronger trade deals with the wider world than the EU can manage. How’s that looking, Leavers? We couldn’t even negotiate the divorce settlement like professionals. Keith Taylor | You know what’s tragically hilarious about all of this? One of the reasons people want to leave the EU is because they believe the UK can negotiate stronger trade deals with the wider world than the EU can manage. How’s that looking, Leavers? We couldn’t even negotiate the divorce settlement like professionals. Keith Taylor |
| ‘Bad times ahead, especially for the poorest’ | ‘Bad times ahead, especially for the poorest’ |
| No Deal looking very likely now. Bad times ahead, especially for the poorest and most vulnerable in society. The rich among us will feed like vultures on the financial chaos that ensues. Every food, health and welfare standard will get binned to obtain bad trade deals. The NHS will be sold piecemeal to American companies in order to facilitate trade deal too. It’s going to be a mess that’ll take us 20 years to recover from – if we ever do. NTD | No Deal looking very likely now. Bad times ahead, especially for the poorest and most vulnerable in society. The rich among us will feed like vultures on the financial chaos that ensues. Every food, health and welfare standard will get binned to obtain bad trade deals. The NHS will be sold piecemeal to American companies in order to facilitate trade deal too. It’s going to be a mess that’ll take us 20 years to recover from – if we ever do. NTD |
| ‘Easiest deal in history? We hold all the cards?’ | ‘Easiest deal in history? We hold all the cards?’ |
| Raab, like Davis and Johnson before him, is running off the stage so he doesn’t have to confront the consequences of his outrageous lies. Easiest deal in history? We hold all the cards? This was supposed to be a glorious national liberation. Instead, we’re being humiliated and reduced. Or is that still ‘Project Fear’? Ultralightbeam | Raab, like Davis and Johnson before him, is running off the stage so he doesn’t have to confront the consequences of his outrageous lies. Easiest deal in history? We hold all the cards? This was supposed to be a glorious national liberation. Instead, we’re being humiliated and reduced. Or is that still ‘Project Fear’? Ultralightbeam |
| ‘A general election is on its way’ | ‘A general election is on its way’ |
| This is the inevitable consequence of having a rational person as PM. She knew from the start that the Brexiter’s unicorns could not be delivered without trashing the economy. In retrospect it would have been better to have had Andrea Leadsom as PM and a cabinet full of true believers. Then they would not be able to hide behind May and pretend that they could have done a better job. I think a general election is on its way. Sowester | This is the inevitable consequence of having a rational person as PM. She knew from the start that the Brexiter’s unicorns could not be delivered without trashing the economy. In retrospect it would have been better to have had Andrea Leadsom as PM and a cabinet full of true believers. Then they would not be able to hide behind May and pretend that they could have done a better job. I think a general election is on its way. Sowester |
| ‘This isn’t Project Fear’ | ‘This isn’t Project Fear’ |
| The £39 billion [referred to by John Redwood] is what we are legally committed to pay because of all the signed commitments we had with the EU before the referendum. For Brexiteers to say we should break the law is purely and utterly reprehensible. Its these people that got us into mess in the first place and completely bewildering to those who have most to lose from Brexit. We should take account of industry. If they say that a deal that allows our borders to be open with free trade then that’s what we should do. All the areas that voted leave will suffer enormously when the jobs start to go. This isn’t Project Fear. GeeMat | The £39 billion [referred to by John Redwood] is what we are legally committed to pay because of all the signed commitments we had with the EU before the referendum. For Brexiteers to say we should break the law is purely and utterly reprehensible. Its these people that got us into mess in the first place and completely bewildering to those who have most to lose from Brexit. We should take account of industry. If they say that a deal that allows our borders to be open with free trade then that’s what we should do. All the areas that voted leave will suffer enormously when the jobs start to go. This isn’t Project Fear. GeeMat |
| ‘Hard to know what Corbyn is pitching’ | ‘Hard to know what Corbyn is pitching’ |
| Hard to know what Corbyn is pitching. Is he suggesting we should go into a general election, where Labour will sweep to power on the promise of more extensions and transitions while Corbyn has his own pop at unpicking freedom of movement from the “four freedoms”, like a sword from a stone, so that the “six tests” are met? Klaatu | Hard to know what Corbyn is pitching. Is he suggesting we should go into a general election, where Labour will sweep to power on the promise of more extensions and transitions while Corbyn has his own pop at unpicking freedom of movement from the “four freedoms”, like a sword from a stone, so that the “six tests” are met? Klaatu |
| ‘I am writing to our MP’ | ‘I am writing to our MP’ |
| I have now found a paragraph about Northern Irish citizenship. They are being allowed to have EU privileges we are not? That must be wrong. Nothing about the rest of us having our EU citizenship arbitrarily confiscated against our will. I am writing to our MP about that. Some time ago I wrote to Verhofstadt and he was sympathetic, saying he hoped to table a motion for us Europhiles to keep some form of EU citizenship but I have heard no more. The whole Brexit thing is gross insult to remain supporters (over half the electorate now it seems) and surely of questionable legality, or if not, most certainly morally unacceptable. weightheevidence | I have now found a paragraph about Northern Irish citizenship. They are being allowed to have EU privileges we are not? That must be wrong. Nothing about the rest of us having our EU citizenship arbitrarily confiscated against our will. I am writing to our MP about that. Some time ago I wrote to Verhofstadt and he was sympathetic, saying he hoped to table a motion for us Europhiles to keep some form of EU citizenship but I have heard no more. The whole Brexit thing is gross insult to remain supporters (over half the electorate now it seems) and surely of questionable legality, or if not, most certainly morally unacceptable. weightheevidence |
| Two years ago Britain walked out on a long marriage to the EU. The EU just didn’t understand Britain. Free at last, Britain would hook up with younger fitter models around the world. Yesterday Britain got shown into the new bedsit. On the bed was a box with lawyer’s bills, a maintenance agreement and an unfavourable custody arrangement. sanjeeva | Two years ago Britain walked out on a long marriage to the EU. The EU just didn’t understand Britain. Free at last, Britain would hook up with younger fitter models around the world. Yesterday Britain got shown into the new bedsit. On the bed was a box with lawyer’s bills, a maintenance agreement and an unfavourable custody arrangement. sanjeeva |
| ‘Now is the time for the check and balance of a People’s Vote’ | ‘Now is the time for the check and balance of a People’s Vote’ |
| Go back and think again seems like the only rational idea at this point. What do the British people want? To jump right out, to maintain connection, or stay in? If the combined numbers of jump and connect are more than remain, let this miserable process continue. If Remain outnumbers both of those, we can draw a line under the past two years and everyone can get on with their lives. We’re all far more aware of how connected to Europe we are on security, science, manufacturing, the NHS, food production etc etc etc. Now is the time for the check and balance of a People’s Vote. tickyt | Go back and think again seems like the only rational idea at this point. What do the British people want? To jump right out, to maintain connection, or stay in? If the combined numbers of jump and connect are more than remain, let this miserable process continue. If Remain outnumbers both of those, we can draw a line under the past two years and everyone can get on with their lives. We’re all far more aware of how connected to Europe we are on security, science, manufacturing, the NHS, food production etc etc etc. Now is the time for the check and balance of a People’s Vote. tickyt |
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