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Sports Direct's Mike Ashley calls for web tax to save 'dying' high street - business live | |
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And finally, Mike Ashley hinted that House of Fraser could work closer with Debenhams (in which he owns a stake). | |
He tol MPs: | |
“I told them to work together. They should work together | |
Mike Ashley winds up his hearing with a prediction -- Harrods and Selfridges will have a good year. | |
One of the reasons that House of Fraser failed is that it didn’t elevate itself, Ashley continues. | |
Luxury brands are on the up. Teenagers, people today, want to wear their wealth. | |
Mike Ashley returns to his big theme - the internet has killed the high street. | |
He tells the MPs: | |
The web has killed the high street, not the local councils, not this, not that. | |
Ashley concedes that everyone involved may have moved too slowly to tackle the issue. Now, unless major change is pushed through, the high street is finished. | |
It is just going to die, and you’ll be left with Oxford Street and Bond Street. | |
Outside of London, it’s going to be a ghost town. Sorry, that’s what it’s going to be. | |
Interestingly, Mike Ashley says that local councils have helped keep House of Fraser stores open since his Sports Direct chain took it over this year. | |
Ashley tells the committee that some landlords have refused to cut the rent, in the hope that the department store will close - freeing them up potentially turn it into housing. | |
Councils, though, insisted that everyone involved made an effort to keep the House of Fraser store open. | |
Ashley suggests, though, that some stores need to downside - perhaps by turning their upper floors into residential units. | |
I accept House of Fraser cannot have 500,000 square feet in Birmingham. Honestly, you would need an Uber to take you round. It’s ridiculous. | |
Q: There are reports that high street rents might crash next year, by 20%. Wouldn’t that be good news for the retailers? But wouldn’t rents NOT fall, if landlords were able to turn high street stores into residential units (as some campaigners have asked for) | Q: There are reports that high street rents might crash next year, by 20%. Wouldn’t that be good news for the retailers? But wouldn’t rents NOT fall, if landlords were able to turn high street stores into residential units (as some campaigners have asked for) |
You’ll make me hated by every landlord in the country, but you’re absolutely correct, Ashley replies. | You’ll make me hated by every landlord in the country, but you’re absolutely correct, Ashley replies. |
Labour MP Liz Twist, who represents the Bladon in North-East England, asks Mr Ashley to meet with her to discuss the fate of the House of Fraser Metro store. | Labour MP Liz Twist, who represents the Bladon in North-East England, asks Mr Ashley to meet with her to discuss the fate of the House of Fraser Metro store. |
No, absolutely not, Ashey replies. | No, absolutely not, Ashey replies. |
Q: Why not? | Q: Why not? |
If I do it for one person, think of all the other people that I have let down, Ashley replies, burying his head in his hands. | If I do it for one person, think of all the other people that I have let down, Ashley replies, burying his head in his hands. |
People keep thinking I can do these one-off things. It’s not easy to do, | People keep thinking I can do these one-off things. It’s not easy to do, |
But Ashley is prepared to attend a meeting with MPs to discuss the wider issue, ideally with HoFs landlords too. | But Ashley is prepared to attend a meeting with MPs to discuss the wider issue, ideally with HoFs landlords too. |
Q: What’s happening with House of Fraser stores, and your push to cut rents? | Q: What’s happening with House of Fraser stores, and your push to cut rents? |
Mike Ashley says local councils are refusing to cut rents, because they can see that HoF stores are profitable...but they’re not recognising the overhead costs behind the scenes. | Mike Ashley says local councils are refusing to cut rents, because they can see that HoF stores are profitable...but they’re not recognising the overhead costs behind the scenes. |
So a store that seems to be making a £2m profit on paper is actually losing £2m, once you factor in the true costs of running a business. | So a store that seems to be making a £2m profit on paper is actually losing £2m, once you factor in the true costs of running a business. |
Ashley then give a fascinating insight into business, saying that accountants can make up nearly any number you like, to flatter a company’s accounts. | Ashley then give a fascinating insight into business, saying that accountants can make up nearly any number you like, to flatter a company’s accounts. |
You don’t even understand what they’re talking about, and they’ll say ‘I can make that store loss-making, or I can make it profitable’. | You don’t even understand what they’re talking about, and they’ll say ‘I can make that store loss-making, or I can make it profitable’. |
They say “I’ll put exceptions in - what are they when they’re at home?” Ashley adds with (apparent) disbelief. | They say “I’ll put exceptions in - what are they when they’re at home?” Ashley adds with (apparent) disbelief. |
The underlying problem in UK retail is the web, says Mike Ashley, as he continues to brief MPs on the future of the high street. | The underlying problem in UK retail is the web, says Mike Ashley, as he continues to brief MPs on the future of the high street. |
Looking magnanimously at the Housing, Communities and Local Government Committee, he adds kindly: | Looking magnanimously at the Housing, Communities and Local Government Committee, he adds kindly: |
It’s not your fault, you didn’t do it. | It’s not your fault, you didn’t do it. |
Q: Why is there such a problem with rents in the retail sector? | Q: Why is there such a problem with rents in the retail sector? |
Landlords and retailers have always been uneasy bedfellows, says Mike Ashley. And whenever one has the upper hand, he “gets out his hammer” and bashes the other one. | Landlords and retailers have always been uneasy bedfellows, says Mike Ashley. And whenever one has the upper hand, he “gets out his hammer” and bashes the other one. |
He says “good luck” to any landlord who owns highly lucrative land on Bond Street. | He says “good luck” to any landlord who owns highly lucrative land on Bond Street. |
But he’s more critical of landlords who have got retailers on contracts where rents can only rise. Those rental agreements are a “downward death spiral....” | But he’s more critical of landlords who have got retailers on contracts where rents can only rise. Those rental agreements are a “downward death spiral....” |
Ashley blames successful companies, such as McDonalds and his own Sports Direct chain, which agreed to hefty rent deals in the good times - which everyone else was then moved onto as well. | Ashley blames successful companies, such as McDonalds and his own Sports Direct chain, which agreed to hefty rent deals in the good times - which everyone else was then moved onto as well. |
If you’re just tuning into Mike Ashley’s hearing on the future of the high street, here’s what you’ve missed... | If you’re just tuning into Mike Ashley’s hearing on the future of the high street, here’s what you’ve missed... |
Mike Ashley evidence to Commons Select Committee:-The High Street is at bottom of the swimming pool-It requires electric shock treatment-It’s not my fault -I don’t sit in an office stroking a white cat-I’m not God-I’m not Father Christmas pic.twitter.com/STgk4chS5V | Mike Ashley evidence to Commons Select Committee:-The High Street is at bottom of the swimming pool-It requires electric shock treatment-It’s not my fault -I don’t sit in an office stroking a white cat-I’m not God-I’m not Father Christmas pic.twitter.com/STgk4chS5V |
Mike Ashley now concedes that it would be difficult to implement his plan for a new tax on web companies, but insists that it’s simple in principle. | Mike Ashley now concedes that it would be difficult to implement his plan for a new tax on web companies, but insists that it’s simple in principle. |
[Reminder, the idea is a new levy on any retailer who does over 20% of its business online] | [Reminder, the idea is a new levy on any retailer who does over 20% of its business online] |
Q: Many retailers say that the solution is lower business rates and free parking.. | Q: Many retailers say that the solution is lower business rates and free parking.. |
Yes, but who’s going to pay for it, Ashley shoots back. | Yes, but who’s going to pay for it, Ashley shoots back. |
He admits that Sports Direct, which he founded, would be hit in the pocket if the government took up his suggestion of a new tax on e-tailers. | He admits that Sports Direct, which he founded, would be hit in the pocket if the government took up his suggestion of a new tax on e-tailers. |
Sports Direct won’t be pleased with me for my suggestion. It’s not necessarily a good fix for Sports Direct , but it’s a fantastic fix for the high street. | Sports Direct won’t be pleased with me for my suggestion. It’s not necessarily a good fix for Sports Direct , but it’s a fantastic fix for the high street. |
Otherwise, Ashley argues, the high street is destined for destruction: | Otherwise, Ashley argues, the high street is destined for destruction: |
The high street won’t make 2030, it won’t get there, unless you do something really radical and grab the bulls by the horns. | The high street won’t make 2030, it won’t get there, unless you do something really radical and grab the bulls by the horns. |
Q: How would your plan for a new tax on web retailers work when people buy goods from abroad? | Q: How would your plan for a new tax on web retailers work when people buy goods from abroad? |
In theory you could still tax them, Ashley insists, but agrees that overseas retailers would have to sign up to pay it. | In theory you could still tax them, Ashley insists, but agrees that overseas retailers would have to sign up to pay it. |
You want to get retailers saving the high street, he adds - through a new tax on companies who make most of their money selling online only. | You want to get retailers saving the high street, he adds - through a new tax on companies who make most of their money selling online only. |
High stores have to change, it’s not just about a sea of clothing any more, says Mike Ashley. | High stores have to change, it’s not just about a sea of clothing any more, says Mike Ashley. |
He suggests retailers need to be much more innovative -- maybe with different opening hours, more self-service tills. | He suggests retailers need to be much more innovative -- maybe with different opening hours, more self-service tills. |