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| 'Should you be up there?' The life of a female chimney sweep | 'Should you be up there?' The life of a female chimney sweep |
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| For many, chimney sweeping might conjure up images of Dick Van Dyke in the 1964 Disney film Mary Poppins, or Victorian urchins being sent up filthy flues. | For many, chimney sweeping might conjure up images of Dick Van Dyke in the 1964 Disney film Mary Poppins, or Victorian urchins being sent up filthy flues. |
| But the business of chimney sweeping has changed: in 2019 it's far more hi-tech than simply poking brushes up chimneys - and it's not just men who are doing it. | But the business of chimney sweeping has changed: in 2019 it's far more hi-tech than simply poking brushes up chimneys - and it's not just men who are doing it. |
| According to the Guild of Master Chimney Sweeps, there are currently 18 female members, which represents about 4% of the total membership. In 2010, there were just three registered female chimney sweeps in Britain. | According to the Guild of Master Chimney Sweeps, there are currently 18 female members, which represents about 4% of the total membership. In 2010, there were just three registered female chimney sweeps in Britain. |
| So what is attracting women to this traditionally male-dominated trade? | So what is attracting women to this traditionally male-dominated trade? |
| 'I really do enjoy it' | 'I really do enjoy it' |
| For Emily Wilebore, the only time she has experienced dubious remarks about her job is when she has been up on the roof. | For Emily Wilebore, the only time she has experienced dubious remarks about her job is when she has been up on the roof. |
| "An older gentleman might walk by and look at me on the roof with the look that says: 'Should you be up there? Do you need a hand?'," she says. | "An older gentleman might walk by and look at me on the roof with the look that says: 'Should you be up there? Do you need a hand?'," she says. |
| "It doesn't come from a bad place, I suppose it's just unusual to see it." | "It doesn't come from a bad place, I suppose it's just unusual to see it." |
| "Emily the sweep" started her business in 2016, covering south Devon and east Cornwall. | |
| "I really do enjoy it," she says. | "I really do enjoy it," she says. |
| "The only downside is it's seasonal so I need to take on extra work over the summer - it's a shame because I love my job. | "The only downside is it's seasonal so I need to take on extra work over the summer - it's a shame because I love my job. |
| "I'm really well-received by customers - especially women. They always say 'It's so unusual to see a female chimney sweep'." | "I'm really well-received by customers - especially women. They always say 'It's so unusual to see a female chimney sweep'." |
| Emily was working full time as a youth worker for Torbay Council when she had her own chimney swept by a woman. | Emily was working full time as a youth worker for Torbay Council when she had her own chimney swept by a woman. |
| After discovering she needed someone to help labour for her, Emily decided to give it a go. | After discovering she needed someone to help labour for her, Emily decided to give it a go. |
| "I was really taken aback by how brilliant and confident she was at doing it. I just needed that boost, really," Emily says. | "I was really taken aback by how brilliant and confident she was at doing it. I just needed that boost, really," Emily says. |
| Following that meeting, she decided to complete her own chimney sweep training and eventually set up her own business in 2016. | Following that meeting, she decided to complete her own chimney sweep training and eventually set up her own business in 2016. |
| Emily says she has never found any "gold rings or old hip flasks" - which, in some of the older properties, servants used to hide in the chimney. | Emily says she has never found any "gold rings or old hip flasks" - which, in some of the older properties, servants used to hide in the chimney. |
| "Years ago when people were worried about spirits in the house, people sometimes used to put shoes or bits of clothing inside to warn off evil spirits. | "Years ago when people were worried about spirits in the house, people sometimes used to put shoes or bits of clothing inside to warn off evil spirits. |
| "There's a lot of history with chimneys. It's a very old, traditional trade but it has come an awful long way. | "There's a lot of history with chimneys. It's a very old, traditional trade but it has come an awful long way. |
| "I think for some customers, they honestly think I'm going to turn up with an old broom handle with a brush on the end and it's not anything like that," Emily says. | "I think for some customers, they honestly think I'm going to turn up with an old broom handle with a brush on the end and it's not anything like that," Emily says. |
| "We've got cameras now and testing equipment - it really is 21st Century equipment." | "We've got cameras now and testing equipment - it really is 21st Century equipment." |
| 'I've been completely accepted' | 'I've been completely accepted' |
| "It's still unusual but we're getting there," says chimney sweep, Joanna Thurgur in regards to women working in the industry. | "It's still unusual but we're getting there," says chimney sweep, Joanna Thurgur in regards to women working in the industry. |
| In 2015 she set up Joanna Thurgur Chimney Sweep Services, which covers the Hampshire area, after training with the Guild of Master Chimney Sweeps. | In 2015 she set up Joanna Thurgur Chimney Sweep Services, which covers the Hampshire area, after training with the Guild of Master Chimney Sweeps. |
| "I tracked down a female sweep to speak to, spent a day with my sister's lovely sweep in Bedfordshire, did lots of research and finally took the decision to go for it," she says. | "I tracked down a female sweep to speak to, spent a day with my sister's lovely sweep in Bedfordshire, did lots of research and finally took the decision to go for it," she says. |
| "From day one at the guild, I've been completely accepted and supported. I've not had a single bad response. | "From day one at the guild, I've been completely accepted and supported. I've not had a single bad response. |
| "I suppose there are sweeps out there who don't like women coming into what they see as a male-dominated trade, but I certainly have never come across any." | "I suppose there are sweeps out there who don't like women coming into what they see as a male-dominated trade, but I certainly have never come across any." |
| Joanna says the day-to-day work is physically demanding, "but not to the point where it excludes all women at all". | Joanna says the day-to-day work is physically demanding, "but not to the point where it excludes all women at all". |
| "If you don't want to provide a service for removing birds' nests - which is hard, physical work - you can decline them," she says. | "If you don't want to provide a service for removing birds' nests - which is hard, physical work - you can decline them," she says. |
| "You can tailor it to suit your abilities, strength or just what you want to do, really." | "You can tailor it to suit your abilities, strength or just what you want to do, really." |
| Joanna believes more women getting involved in chimney sweeping is indicative of how it is across the trades in general. | Joanna believes more women getting involved in chimney sweeping is indicative of how it is across the trades in general. |
| "All of a sudden, it's permissible for a woman to enter a trade. It's not looked at quite as askew as it once was," she says. | "All of a sudden, it's permissible for a woman to enter a trade. It's not looked at quite as askew as it once was," she says. |
| "I have always enjoyed - almost preferred - men's company so it didn't bother me. | "I have always enjoyed - almost preferred - men's company so it didn't bother me. |
| "I knew people would think it was odd but I've not been particularly bothered about what other people think," she adds. | "I knew people would think it was odd but I've not been particularly bothered about what other people think," she adds. |
| Joanna also supports the government-backed Burn Right campaign, which seeks to educate customers about how to burn solid fuels to get better heat output, while reducing fuel use and harmful emissions. | Joanna also supports the government-backed Burn Right campaign, which seeks to educate customers about how to burn solid fuels to get better heat output, while reducing fuel use and harmful emissions. |
| "The job of a chimney sweep isn't just coming along and cleaning your flue, it's also very much educating people of the big push to stop pollution that the government has been looking into," she says. | "The job of a chimney sweep isn't just coming along and cleaning your flue, it's also very much educating people of the big push to stop pollution that the government has been looking into," she says. |
| "I love it. I never expected to love it as much as I did." | "I love it. I never expected to love it as much as I did." |
| Chimney sweeping: A brief history | Chimney sweeping: A brief history |
| 'I became a sweep after 20 years in accountancy' | 'I became a sweep after 20 years in accountancy' |
| Emma Roddy, from Manchester, set up her own chimney sweep business, Sparkling Flues, in 2015. | Emma Roddy, from Manchester, set up her own chimney sweep business, Sparkling Flues, in 2015. |
| After 20 years in the finance industry, she got to a point where she was "looking for something different". | After 20 years in the finance industry, she got to a point where she was "looking for something different". |
| "My husband was in the chimney-sweeping industry and I fell in love with the projects he was on. I fell in love with the industry," she says. | "My husband was in the chimney-sweeping industry and I fell in love with the projects he was on. I fell in love with the industry," she says. |
| "I was looking for a change having worked in accountancy since I was a teenager. | "I was looking for a change having worked in accountancy since I was a teenager. |
| "Now, I absolutely love it and wouldn't change it." | "Now, I absolutely love it and wouldn't change it." |
| She agrees the traditional image of a chimney sweep is of a man, but has never been bothered by this. | She agrees the traditional image of a chimney sweep is of a man, but has never been bothered by this. |
| "I set it as a challenge, to be honest, because it's mainly male-dominated. I just found there was definitely a unique market there for the female," she says. | "I set it as a challenge, to be honest, because it's mainly male-dominated. I just found there was definitely a unique market there for the female," she says. |
| Emma trained with the Guild of Master Chimney Sweeps and is now a trainer for the association. | Emma trained with the Guild of Master Chimney Sweeps and is now a trainer for the association. |
| She has also recently completed a NVQ for chimney sweeping in the construction industry and says she was proud to win the "best van" award at the guild's trade show in March - long gone are the days when a chimney sweep would be seen cantering across town in a horse and cart. | She has also recently completed a NVQ for chimney sweeping in the construction industry and says she was proud to win the "best van" award at the guild's trade show in March - long gone are the days when a chimney sweep would be seen cantering across town in a horse and cart. |
| Emma says she would encourage any women - but particularly young women - to join the industry. | Emma says she would encourage any women - but particularly young women - to join the industry. |
| "It is challenging and it can be physical but don't let that put you off. Don't let the males put you off. | "It is challenging and it can be physical but don't let that put you off. Don't let the males put you off. |
| "I've had a couple of negative comments doing my rounds and from a couple of chaps within the industry, but I don't have any regrets and I love it every day." | "I've had a couple of negative comments doing my rounds and from a couple of chaps within the industry, but I don't have any regrets and I love it every day." |