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Mueller's testimony on Trump and Russia: six of the biggest takeaways Mueller's testimony on Trump and Russia: the biggest takeaways
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In highly anticipated testimony before the US Congress on Wednesday, the former special counsel Robert Mueller submitted to hours of questioning. In highly anticipated testimony before the US Congress, the former special counsel Robert Mueller submitted to seven hours of questioning in back-to-back appearances before the House judiciary and intelligence committees.
His testimony comes four months after he concluded the two-year investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election and the Trump campaign’s ties to Moscow, the findings of which were detailed in a 448-page report released in April.His testimony comes four months after he concluded the two-year investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election and the Trump campaign’s ties to Moscow, the findings of which were detailed in a 448-page report released in April.
Mueller contradicts Trump's false claim he was 'totally exonerated' by reportMueller contradicts Trump's false claim he was 'totally exonerated' by report
Here are the key takeaways:Here are the key takeaways:
Trump was not exoneratedTrump was not exonerated
Since the conclusion of the investigation, Donald Trump has repeatedly claimed “total exoneration” – despite Mueller’s report explicitly stating otherwise. Donald Trump has repeatedly claimed “total exoneration” – despite Mueller’s report explicitly stating otherwise.
Mueller himself shot down the president’s assertion within minutes of the first hearing starting, when he was asked by the House judiciary committee chairman, Jerry Nadler, if the special counsel had cleared Trump of wrongdoing. Mueller shot down the president’s assertion within minutes of the first hearing, when he was asked by the House judiciary committee chairman, Jerry Nadler, if the special counsel had cleared Trump of wrongdoing.
“The finding indicates that the president was not exculpated for the acts that he allegedly committed,” Mueller said. “It is not what the report said.”“The finding indicates that the president was not exculpated for the acts that he allegedly committed,” Mueller said. “It is not what the report said.”
Testifying under oath, Mueller also confirmed several attempts by Trump to impede the special counsel investigation, adding: “Obstruction of justice strikes at the core of the government’s effort to find the truth and to hold wrongdoers accountable.”Testifying under oath, Mueller also confirmed several attempts by Trump to impede the special counsel investigation, adding: “Obstruction of justice strikes at the core of the government’s effort to find the truth and to hold wrongdoers accountable.”
Mueller acknowledged Trump’s alleged efforts to obstruct the investigation proved unsuccessful – a statement swiftly seized upon by the president, who tweeted during the hearing to falsely suggest again that he was being absolved of obstruction.Mueller acknowledged Trump’s alleged efforts to obstruct the investigation proved unsuccessful – a statement swiftly seized upon by the president, who tweeted during the hearing to falsely suggest again that he was being absolved of obstruction.
“Mueller was asked whether or not the investigation was impeded in any way, and he said no.” In other words, there was NO OBSTRUCTION. @KatiePavlich @FoxNews“Mueller was asked whether or not the investigation was impeded in any way, and he said no.” In other words, there was NO OBSTRUCTION. @KatiePavlich @FoxNews
Mueller and his team were never going to indict Trump Trump claims of ‘no collusion’ are inaccurate
The decision by Mueller and his team to steer clear of making a final determination on whether Trump committed a crime has been a subject of intense debate. Asked if he found evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and Moscow, Mueller said his team avoided the term “collusion” because it had no legal application. Mueller acknowledged there was insufficient evidence to establish a criminal conspiracy between the Trump campaign and the Russians, but he said it would not be accurate to suggest there was no evidence of coordination.
But Mueller confirmed on Wednesday that the special counsel’s office knew from the outset of the investigation that it would not result in Trump being indicted. In one of the most damning exchanges, House intelligence committee chair Adam Schiff secured confirmation from Mueller on numerous ties between Trump’s campaign and Moscow.
Consistent with his report, Mueller said the special counsel relied on internal justice department guidelines under which the indictment of a sitting president would be “unconstitutional”. Under oath, Mueller said: the Russians led a campaign to swing the 2016 election in Trump’s favor and committed crimes to achieve that goal; the Trump campaign was receptive to help from the Russians; Donald Trump Jr said he would “love” to receive dirt on Hillary Clinton from the Russian government; then-candidate Trump publicly urged the Russians to hack Clinton’s emails; Trump pursued a lucrative Trump Tower project in Moscow during the campaign; and multiple top Trump campaign and administration officials were convicted of lying to investigators about their contacts with Russians.
Legal experts remain split on the policy and its implications, but Mueller reaffirmed that his team viewed its mandate as delivering a report to the justice department and leaving the evidence in the hands of Congress. For all of the talk about Mueller’s halting performance, this exchange is why his testimony could have an effect: at just over a minute long, it’s almost made for TV and is ideal for social-media shares pic.twitter.com/HYg5azb8VI
Representative Ted Lieu, a Democrat from California, asked Mueller: “The reason again that you did not indict Donald Trump is because of the [Office of Legal Counsel] opinion stating that you cannot indict a sitting president, correct?” Threat of Russian interference continues
“That is correct,” Mueller responded. Mueller warned once again of the “sweeping and systematic” way in which Russia meddled in the 2016 US election.
But Mueller corrected himself before the intelligence committee. He said that the OLC policy in fact prevented him from making a determination on whether Trump should be charged. Asked about the prospect of Moscow interfering in future elections, Mueller issued a stark warning, telling Congress: “They’re doing it as we sit here.”
Why Mueller didn’t subpoena Trump
Mueller said in his report that the written answers he received from Trump during his investigation proved insufficient. So why didn’t he compel the president to testify?
Mueller told lawmakers he felt such a move would result in a protracted legal fight, thus impeding the conclusion of the investigation.
“One of the things we anticipated wanting to accomplish is … having the interview of the president,” Mueller said. “We negotiated with him for a little over a year.”
“But when we were almost toward the end of our investigation, we had no success to get the interview of the president, we decided we did not want to exercise the subpoena power because of the necessity of ending the investigations,” Mueller added.
Mueller was also asked if he subpoenaed Don Jr, who was at the center of the infamous June 2016 meeting at Trump Tower in New York. Mueller declined to address the question.
Trump could be charged with a crime after leaving officeTrump could be charged with a crime after leaving office
Under further questioning from the Representative Ken Buck, a Republican of Colorado, Mueller also said Trump could be charged with a crime after he left office. Under further questioning from Ken Buck, a Republican from Colorado, Mueller also said Trump could be charged with a crime after he left office.
Rep. Buck: "Could you charge the president with a crime after he left office?"Mueller: "Yes."Buck: "You believe that you could charge the president of the United States with obstruction of justice after he left office?"Mueller: "Yes." https://t.co/m9KGQtpbkx pic.twitter.com/Sd1e1B7WMiRep. Buck: "Could you charge the president with a crime after he left office?"Mueller: "Yes."Buck: "You believe that you could charge the president of the United States with obstruction of justice after he left office?"Mueller: "Yes." https://t.co/m9KGQtpbkx pic.twitter.com/Sd1e1B7WMi
Republicans focused on discrediting MuellerRepublicans focused on discrediting Mueller
Nearly every Republican member of the House judiciary committee used his or her time to either suggest Trump was innocent or accuse Mueller’s team of being politically motivated.Nearly every Republican member of the House judiciary committee used his or her time to either suggest Trump was innocent or accuse Mueller’s team of being politically motivated.
Several Republicans brought up the dossier compiled by the former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele detailing allegations of Trump’s ties to Moscow. They also questioned the role of Fusion GPS, the opposition research firm that employed Steele for his work and was first paid by the conservative website Free Beacon and later retained by a law firm working for the Democratic party.Several Republicans brought up the dossier compiled by the former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele detailing allegations of Trump’s ties to Moscow. They also questioned the role of Fusion GPS, the opposition research firm that employed Steele for his work and was first paid by the conservative website Free Beacon and later retained by a law firm working for the Democratic party.
Mueller, who said he was unfamiliar with Fusion GPS, declined to address matters related to the Steele dossier, telling lawmakers they were “the subject of ongoing review” by the justice department.Mueller, who said he was unfamiliar with Fusion GPS, declined to address matters related to the Steele dossier, telling lawmakers they were “the subject of ongoing review” by the justice department.
Representative Louie Gohmert, a Republican from Texas, angrily grilled Mueller on anti-Trump text messages sent by Peter Strzok, a former member of the special counsel’s team. Mueller said he had been unaware of Strzok’s animus toward Trump, and pointed out the former FBI agent was immediately reassigned when his anti-Trump messages were uncovered. Representative Louie Gohmert, a Republican from Texas, angrily grilled Mueller on anti-Trump text messages sent by Peter Strzok, a former member of the special counsel’s team. Mueller said he had been unaware of Strzok’s animus toward Trump, and pointed out the former FBI agent was immediately reassigned when his anti-Trump messages were uncovered.
In one of his most animated moments, Mueller forcefully defended the integrity of his team.
“Can I say something about the hiring practices? I’ve been in this business for 25 years,” a visibly agitated Mueller told lawmakers. “I have not had occasion once to ask somebody about their political affiliation. It is not done.
“What I care about is the capability of the individuals to do the job, seriously, with integrity.”
Mueller says he did not seek FBI director jobMueller says he did not seek FBI director job
In seeking to cast the former special counsel as having a conflict of interest, Trump has repeatedly claimed that he interviewed Mueller at the White House for the role of FBI director. Trump has said for months that Mueller was considered for the job, but turned down, just before he was appointed as special counsel.In seeking to cast the former special counsel as having a conflict of interest, Trump has repeatedly claimed that he interviewed Mueller at the White House for the role of FBI director. Trump has said for months that Mueller was considered for the job, but turned down, just before he was appointed as special counsel.
Mueller stated under oath that he was not, in fact, a candidate for FBI director under Trump. Instead, Mueller said he shared with Trump his expertise – having previously served as FBI director – on what the role entailed.Mueller stated under oath that he was not, in fact, a candidate for FBI director under Trump. Instead, Mueller said he shared with Trump his expertise – having previously served as FBI director – on what the role entailed.
“I was not applying for the job,” Mueller said.“I was not applying for the job,” Mueller said.
Trump responded on Twitter by insisting Mueller wanted the job and claiming there were witnesses to the interview, including the vice-president, Mike Pence.Trump responded on Twitter by insisting Mueller wanted the job and claiming there were witnesses to the interview, including the vice-president, Mike Pence.
....interview, including the Vice President of the United States!....interview, including the Vice President of the United States!
During his testimony, Mueller denied he had any conflicts in overseeing the investigation.During his testimony, Mueller denied he had any conflicts in overseeing the investigation.
Mueller confirms several episodes of possible obstructionMueller confirms several episodes of possible obstruction
It was clear from the get-go that Mueller would offer few, if any, new details about his investigation and its findings.It was clear from the get-go that Mueller would offer few, if any, new details about his investigation and its findings.
In most of his answers, Mueller either referred lawmakers back to his report or tersely stood by its contents. He also declined to address several issues, citing limitations based on ongoing investigations or the agreement he reached with the justice department surrounding his testimony.In most of his answers, Mueller either referred lawmakers back to his report or tersely stood by its contents. He also declined to address several issues, citing limitations based on ongoing investigations or the agreement he reached with the justice department surrounding his testimony.
But there were several crucial moments in the obstruction inquiry of his report that Mueller confirmed under oath, which taken together could provide Democrats with a roadmap to impeachment.But there were several crucial moments in the obstruction inquiry of his report that Mueller confirmed under oath, which taken together could provide Democrats with a roadmap to impeachment.
Most notably, Mueller reaffirmed that Trump ordered the former White House counsel Don McGahn to fire him. McGahn, one of the central witnesses in Mueller’s investigation, refused to carry out Trump’s orders and threatened to resign.Most notably, Mueller reaffirmed that Trump ordered the former White House counsel Don McGahn to fire him. McGahn, one of the central witnesses in Mueller’s investigation, refused to carry out Trump’s orders and threatened to resign.
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