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Arthur Sinodinos calls for 'bullying' review to be expedited – politics live Arthur Sinodinos calls for Liberal party 'bullying' review to be expedited – politics live
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In case you didn’t listen to that Afternoon Briefing interview with Patricia Karvelas, what you have there, is a senior member of the Liberal party, calling for the bullying review which was set up after the leadership spill, to be brought forward. Pat Dodson has also spoken out in the Senate against the Cpac conference speakers:
This could be a pantomime. This is a serious matter for the integrity of Australia.
I stand in support of my colleagues Senator Wong and Senator Keneally in expressing concern about this conference, CPAC, the Conservative Political Action Conference, and about the standards that our leaders, particularly the Prime Minister, need to make clear when it comes to the participation of leaders from this place and other places.
In the US, CPAC is an annual political conference attended by conservative activists and elected officials from across the United States. CPAC is hosted by the American Conservative Union. Now we have CPAC down under, with a conference in Sydney from 9 to 11 August.
What’s this about? Is this a sign that our fierce Australian characteristics of independent thinking are finally capitulating to rejected offerings from overseas?
There was a time when we were concerned about how our national discourse was informed. Now it looks like we’re submitting to poisonous ideas without reflection. You can buy a Reagan VIP Freedom Pass to the conference for $599. No one from Newstart will be there; that’s more than their fortnightly allowance. The one-line blurb promoting CPAC in Sydney bills the conference as a chance to ‘learn’, ‘have fun’ and ‘protect the future’. Learn – what are they going to learn? What do those attending hope to learn from rightwing proselytisers from other hemispheres?
Why should our political discourse be polluted by imported poisons and propaganda? Fun – locked up in a conference room with a clique of visiting rightwing nutters who shouldn’t be allowed in the country. Protect the future – God save us, if all of those that are in this bunch see themselves as our protectors.
Mr President, I invite you to go to the Cpac website and take a look at the line-up of visiting speakers. Some of them shouldn’t be allowed in this country.
They obviously have not come by boat! That should not be the reason for them being banned from coming here – they are more likely to fit into an ‘intellectual terrorist’ category than that of a tourist. Their demagoguery is a danger to democracy.
Australia is so intent on protecting its borders from refugees, but how about protecting our borders from prejudiced zealots and intellectual terrorists?
Why do we need to hear the US congressman with a questionable record, Trumpified and infecting Australian politics?
And what’s there to learn about rightwing Americans? Or why do we need to hear from someone who is promoted as a ‘British political activist’–someone who is really a racist bigot?
Don’t we have enough homegrown fascists and fanatics? We already have too much homegrown bigotry and racism in our country. Cpac has taken to social media to defend their invitation to this man. Apparently Cpac is proud to have him at the Sydney conference, arguing that free speech is at stake here.
Like both of my colleagues, I am a strong defender of free speech, but, like my colleagues, I reject any right to hate speech.
We already have enough homegrown bigots and racists in Australia. Extremism should not be allowed into our country. And if Cpac sees itself as the exemplar of Australian conservatism – look out, everyone. It’s time for the Prime Minister to act on this matter, as it is a threat to our nation.
In case you didn’t listen to that Afternoon Briefing interview with Patricia Karvelas, what you have there is a senior member of the Liberal party calling for the bullying review, which was set up after the leadership spill, to be brought forward.
Arthur Sinodinos:Arthur Sinodinos:
The women in question did not get the support that they deserved and they decided to go public. It appears that these incidents sometime back that they were either cancelled not to go ahead with them or action was just not taken, or they were ignored or whatever. The women in question did not get the support that they deserved and they decided to go public. It appears that these incidents sometime back that they were either compelled not to go ahead with them or action was just not taken, or they were ignored or whatever.
So I feel for them, there is a review under way at the moment about what happened last year in terms of the allegations around the culture in some parts of the liver party because of the bullying around the time of leadership tensions, but that hasn’t come to fruition yet. So I feel for them, there is a review under way at the moment about what happened last year in terms of the allegations around the culture in some parts of the Liberal party because of the bullying around the time of leadership tensions, but that hasn’t come to fruition yet.
One of the things I’d like to do with the end of the week, this federal executive meeting, and the margins of that, I’m not attending the meeting itself and in the margins of that I want to talk to others about how we expedite the review. One of the things I’d like to do with the end of the week, this federal executive meeting, and the margins of that, I’m not attending the meeting itself, and in the margins of that I want to talk to others about how we expedite the review.
I think we can’t have a situation where people feel the only option is to the public in this way. I think we can’t have a situation where people feel the only option is to go public in this way.
I know some of my colleagues have said that the people in question should have gone straight to the police. That’s true, but I can understand some circumstances people are reluctant to take that route because of the concern about the backwash on them, and if there are entirely innocent of anything, it’s a very galling and very public process as you’ve seen in other high-profile cases so I think we need to get on with it and get the review completed as a measure is it to be taken to strengthen our internal processes and address these matters. I know some of my colleagues have said that the people in question should have gone straight to the police. That’s true, but I can understand some circumstances people are reluctant to take that route because of the concern about the backwash on them, and if they are entirely innocent of anything, it’s a very galling and very public process as you’ve seen in other high-profile cases, so I think we need to get on with it and get the review completed as a measure it is to be taken to strengthen our internal processes and address these matters.
...The review was commissioned after the matters of August last year, so it has been going was a while now and I can understand that we’ve had stated elections, federal elections, getting in the way, but the reality is that this is a priority and should be treated as a priority and finalised as a priority. ... The review was commissioned after the matters of August last year, so it has been going on a while now and I can understand that we’ve had state elections, federal elections getting in the way, but the reality is that this is a priority and should be treated as a priority and finalised as a priority.
Arthur Sinodinos also commented on the allegations put forward by two Liberal staffers regarding how they were treated when they reported alleged sexual abuse to the party.Arthur Sinodinos also commented on the allegations put forward by two Liberal staffers regarding how they were treated when they reported alleged sexual abuse to the party.
This is one of the stronger comments we have heard from a government MP.This is one of the stronger comments we have heard from a government MP.
Sinodinos will be departing the Senate soon, to take over from Joe Hockey in Washington.Sinodinos will be departing the Senate soon, to take over from Joe Hockey in Washington.
“The women in question didn’t get the support that they deserved and they decided to go public… Some of my colleagues have said they should have gone to the police. That's true, except I can understand in some circumstances people are reluctant,”@A_Sinodinos tells @PatsKarvelas pic.twitter.com/Et9SfGNWuR“The women in question didn’t get the support that they deserved and they decided to go public… Some of my colleagues have said they should have gone to the police. That's true, except I can understand in some circumstances people are reluctant,”@A_Sinodinos tells @PatsKarvelas pic.twitter.com/Et9SfGNWuR
How Mike Bowers saw question time:How Mike Bowers saw question time:
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Tfw you’ve answered a question without knowing the contextTfw you’ve answered a question without knowing the context
Do I smell toast?Do I smell toast?
‘Merit’ in action‘Merit’ in action
On the flipside, Patricia Karvelas asks Arthur Sinodinos about the government MPs and former MPs who are speaking at the conservative conference next month, which features some ... shall we say ... people who have said some terrible, awful, disgusting, bigoted and every other Trump adjective, things.On the flipside, Patricia Karvelas asks Arthur Sinodinos about the government MPs and former MPs who are speaking at the conservative conference next month, which features some ... shall we say ... people who have said some terrible, awful, disgusting, bigoted and every other Trump adjective, things.
Kristina Keneally has called for Peter Dutton to step in and, consistent with what happened with Milo Yiannopoulos, stop some of these speakers coming to Australia on the grounds of hate speech.Kristina Keneally has called for Peter Dutton to step in and, consistent with what happened with Milo Yiannopoulos, stop some of these speakers coming to Australia on the grounds of hate speech.
James Paterson has been among the government MPs who have taken umbrage at the claim that Coalition MP speakers at this conference, which include Craig Kelly and Amanda Stoker, as well as former PM Tony Abbott, are tarred with the same brush.James Paterson has been among the government MPs who have taken umbrage at the claim that Coalition MP speakers at this conference, which include Craig Kelly and Amanda Stoker, as well as former PM Tony Abbott, are tarred with the same brush.
I mean, that is obviously completely different to tarring the Labor party for everything the CFMMEU and John Setka have done, but I digress.I mean, that is obviously completely different to tarring the Labor party for everything the CFMMEU and John Setka have done, but I digress.
Sinodinos:Sinodinos:
Until it was raised in the parliament today I wasn’t aware that he was coming and I don’t know much about his background. People like that would get vetted on character grounds, and I know a number of other cases where other commentators, Milo Yiannopoulos for example.Until it was raised in the parliament today I wasn’t aware that he was coming and I don’t know much about his background. People like that would get vetted on character grounds, and I know a number of other cases where other commentators, Milo Yiannopoulos for example.
I must say on the whole though, often with these characters it is better to take them on publicly rather than to seek to drive these things underground, and what they mean by that is to take on the arguments and demolish them.I must say on the whole though, often with these characters it is better to take them on publicly rather than to seek to drive these things underground, and what they mean by that is to take on the arguments and demolish them.
If someone is a Holocaust denier, it is quite straight forward to prove that the Holocaust happened and that 6 million people needlessly lost their lives, and I don’t think we should be afraid to show these people up for what they are.If someone is a Holocaust denier, it is quite straight forward to prove that the Holocaust happened and that 6 million people needlessly lost their lives, and I don’t think we should be afraid to show these people up for what they are.
If you are asking me about the decision of some of my colleagues to appear at a conservative action conference, that is their individual decision, but people like Amanda Stoker and Craig Kelly are not the sort of people who would say some of the stuff that was alleged in question time. I think that they would be attending the conference and putting up the mainstream conservative views that they have heard them say in the parliament and elsewhere.If you are asking me about the decision of some of my colleagues to appear at a conservative action conference, that is their individual decision, but people like Amanda Stoker and Craig Kelly are not the sort of people who would say some of the stuff that was alleged in question time. I think that they would be attending the conference and putting up the mainstream conservative views that they have heard them say in the parliament and elsewhere.
Sinodinos says he believes any Coalition speaker at the event will call out those sorts of views “if they get the opportunity”.Sinodinos says he believes any Coalition speaker at the event will call out those sorts of views “if they get the opportunity”.
Kim Carr continues, to explain what he means about ‘identity politics’:Kim Carr continues, to explain what he means about ‘identity politics’:
Any group of people that are quite affluent, people who are articulate, people who are well-connected and often in the centre of the cities of our country. This is a problem that has emerged over time. The communication system is geared as city centric, it’s channelling in to a cultural elite that’s not necessarily reflective of the broader community.Any group of people that are quite affluent, people who are articulate, people who are well-connected and often in the centre of the cities of our country. This is a problem that has emerged over time. The communication system is geared as city centric, it’s channelling in to a cultural elite that’s not necessarily reflective of the broader community.
So when we talk about issues, and climate change for instance, we were not actually talking to the wrought mass of people, which reflect the seriousness of the issues, were getting to the heart of the question, and I’m not saying that we abandon the science or misunderstanding how important these questions are, but we have to talk to people in a manner that we are able to be understood.So when we talk about issues, and climate change for instance, we were not actually talking to the wrought mass of people, which reflect the seriousness of the issues, were getting to the heart of the question, and I’m not saying that we abandon the science or misunderstanding how important these questions are, but we have to talk to people in a manner that we are able to be understood.
We might say one thing but the people of this country might hear an entirely different thing.We might say one thing but the people of this country might hear an entirely different thing.
This has been happening for a while and I think too often is a presumption that we are talking to people who are already quite affluent, quite powerful, well-connected, and when talking broadly enough to those communities that have traditionally looked to Labor, who need government the most, who need to be able to see the resources of the government deployed to even up the score, who understand the political and economic system in this country, is not exactly working for the majority of people.This has been happening for a while and I think too often is a presumption that we are talking to people who are already quite affluent, quite powerful, well-connected, and when talking broadly enough to those communities that have traditionally looked to Labor, who need government the most, who need to be able to see the resources of the government deployed to even up the score, who understand the political and economic system in this country, is not exactly working for the majority of people.
And we have failed, I think in some respects, to be effective in our communication strategies.And we have failed, I think in some respects, to be effective in our communication strategies.
Kim Carr is asked by Patricia Karvelas about this story from Katharine Murphy:Kim Carr is asked by Patricia Karvelas about this story from Katharine Murphy:
I’ve had a very good response. There is a review under way but if there is a broad discussion going on between the Labor party membership my proposition is simply this.I’ve had a very good response. There is a review under way but if there is a broad discussion going on between the Labor party membership my proposition is simply this.
We need to examine the methods by which we determine our policies and the circumstances under which we determine them. The Labor party platform is determined by the Labor party conference – the commitment to make in terms of the party, the parliamentary executive, these are not matters you can simply remove with a clean sheet of paper.We need to examine the methods by which we determine our policies and the circumstances under which we determine them. The Labor party platform is determined by the Labor party conference – the commitment to make in terms of the party, the parliamentary executive, these are not matters you can simply remove with a clean sheet of paper.
We do have to examine the campaign that was run, have to examine the techniques that we pursued in the messaging be pursued because there are separate questions on the question of the policy substance versus the capacity to communicate.We do have to examine the campaign that was run, have to examine the techniques that we pursued in the messaging be pursued because there are separate questions on the question of the policy substance versus the capacity to communicate.
And clearly what’s happened in the last election was a big shock. It’s a big shock around the country and a lot of money was spent on travel insurance. It had to be cashed in as a lot of the party people who have holidays planned had to cash those in.And clearly what’s happened in the last election was a big shock. It’s a big shock around the country and a lot of money was spent on travel insurance. It had to be cashed in as a lot of the party people who have holidays planned had to cash those in.
They didn’t anticipate hanging in office any more than we anticipated it, so we need to look at the circumstances where the political system has not been able to respond adequately to people and we have got a Senate inquiry that revived some of these opportunities as well as the party review.They didn’t anticipate hanging in office any more than we anticipated it, so we need to look at the circumstances where the political system has not been able to respond adequately to people and we have got a Senate inquiry that revived some of these opportunities as well as the party review.
[But it it is interesting] just to know, how it is that our messaging has gone so wrong.[But it it is interesting] just to know, how it is that our messaging has gone so wrong.
How it is that we have allowed ourselves to be separated from blue-collar communities and the way we have, and the manner by which identity politics has become so important in the modern discourse in the capacity for ordinary Australians to actually hear what is being said the manner of which is being said.How it is that we have allowed ourselves to be separated from blue-collar communities and the way we have, and the manner by which identity politics has become so important in the modern discourse in the capacity for ordinary Australians to actually hear what is being said the manner of which is being said.
Kristina Keneally is also asked about Labor voting for the temporary exclusion orders, when it had serious concerns about the legislation.Kristina Keneally is also asked about Labor voting for the temporary exclusion orders, when it had serious concerns about the legislation.
I think you might be referring to the temporary exclusion orders legislation that passed through the parliament last week. There is an important principle there, that we have a scheme in place to safely control and manage the return of foreign fighters, to put them on trial or to control them when they come back into the Australian communities. That is an important principle and not one I am going to just jettison but I am going to make the point that Peter Dutton is delivering a scheme that is questionably constitutional, that doesn’t conform to the recommendations of a Liberal-dominated committee, but Patricia, I’m going to be quite frankly putting the public interest first.I think you might be referring to the temporary exclusion orders legislation that passed through the parliament last week. There is an important principle there, that we have a scheme in place to safely control and manage the return of foreign fighters, to put them on trial or to control them when they come back into the Australian communities. That is an important principle and not one I am going to just jettison but I am going to make the point that Peter Dutton is delivering a scheme that is questionably constitutional, that doesn’t conform to the recommendations of a Liberal-dominated committee, but Patricia, I’m going to be quite frankly putting the public interest first.
If the choice is we have no scheme or we have a scheme that is flawed, I am going to go for the scheme that is flawed, and that is going to be on the government if it is proven to be flawed, because the alternative no scheme at all is not a good solution for the Australian community.”If the choice is we have no scheme or we have a scheme that is flawed, I am going to go for the scheme that is flawed, and that is going to be on the government if it is proven to be flawed, because the alternative no scheme at all is not a good solution for the Australian community.”
Which makes sense, but as Keneally said earlier, when asked whether Labor would vote to extend Asio’s detention and questioning powers for another 12 months, if the government didn’t accept its three-month amendment, given the government has the numbers, it doesn’t matter what Labor does, in terms of the legislation passing.Which makes sense, but as Keneally said earlier, when asked whether Labor would vote to extend Asio’s detention and questioning powers for another 12 months, if the government didn’t accept its three-month amendment, given the government has the numbers, it doesn’t matter what Labor does, in terms of the legislation passing.
So the only reason Labor would vote for something it doesn’t agree with is to make a statement.So the only reason Labor would vote for something it doesn’t agree with is to make a statement.
Labor will not be joining the challenges Paul Karp has reported on today. From acting national secretary, Paul Erickson:Labor will not be joining the challenges Paul Karp has reported on today. From acting national secretary, Paul Erickson:
“Labor is disappointed by the tactics employed by the Liberal party at the election, which went well beyond the accepted bounds of a vigorously contested campaign – especially in the divisions of Chisholm and Kooyong.“Labor is disappointed by the tactics employed by the Liberal party at the election, which went well beyond the accepted bounds of a vigorously contested campaign – especially in the divisions of Chisholm and Kooyong.
“The Chinese-language signs used by the Liberal party in those contests were clearly designed to look like official Australian Electoral Commission voting instructions using the AEC colours, for the clear purpose of misleading Mandarin and Cantonese-speaking voters into voting for the Liberal party.“The Chinese-language signs used by the Liberal party in those contests were clearly designed to look like official Australian Electoral Commission voting instructions using the AEC colours, for the clear purpose of misleading Mandarin and Cantonese-speaking voters into voting for the Liberal party.
“While Labor believes there is a strong case that the signs were a breach of the Electoral Act, the significant cost and protracted nature of a legal challenge means we will not be seeking to overturn the outcome through legal action in the court of disputed returns.“While Labor believes there is a strong case that the signs were a breach of the Electoral Act, the significant cost and protracted nature of a legal challenge means we will not be seeking to overturn the outcome through legal action in the court of disputed returns.
“Instead, our focus will be on holding the Morrison Liberal government to account and working hard to secure a majority at the next election.“Instead, our focus will be on holding the Morrison Liberal government to account and working hard to secure a majority at the next election.
“I spoke today with Jennifer Yang, who contested Chisholm on behalf of the Labor party, who echoed her disappointment at the tactics engaged by the Liberal party.”“I spoke today with Jennifer Yang, who contested Chisholm on behalf of the Labor party, who echoed her disappointment at the tactics engaged by the Liberal party.”
Ms Yang said: “Over the last two months, many members of the local community raised with me how deeply concerned they were about the deceptive tactics employed by the Liberal party.Ms Yang said: “Over the last two months, many members of the local community raised with me how deeply concerned they were about the deceptive tactics employed by the Liberal party.
“It is disappointing that the Liberal party engaged in such disgraceful and misleading behaviour. The people of Chisholm deserved better.”“It is disappointing that the Liberal party engaged in such disgraceful and misleading behaviour. The people of Chisholm deserved better.”
Kristina Keneally is the first guest on Afternoon Briefing. She is talking about the CPAC conference and why she believes Australia needs to stop some speakers from entering, because of what she says is their past hate speech:Kristina Keneally is the first guest on Afternoon Briefing. She is talking about the CPAC conference and why she believes Australia needs to stop some speakers from entering, because of what she says is their past hate speech:
I think it is incumbent on the government to consider two things here. One, will other people that are coming into Australia for this conference really fit within the definitions under our visa system? The immigration system gives the minister latitude to bar entry to Australia for people who seek to create division in the community, promote division in the community. They have seen fit to do that with other speakers in recent months.I think it is incumbent on the government to consider two things here. One, will other people that are coming into Australia for this conference really fit within the definitions under our visa system? The immigration system gives the minister latitude to bar entry to Australia for people who seek to create division in the community, promote division in the community. They have seen fit to do that with other speakers in recent months.
They haven’t yet seen fit to do it here and I would encourage them to do so. I will also encourage the prime minister who says that he will speak out against extremism in all forms, to speak out against extremism that is coming into Australia through this conference, and particularly to call on his Liberal members not to go through with their appearance at this conference because when the Liberal party and its members go on stage, they give a tick and ... an OK to the type of hate speech that is being imported through this conference. And free speech is different to hate speech, and I’m all for free speech. Amanda Stoker says we can talk to racists and decide how it will all be OK.They haven’t yet seen fit to do it here and I would encourage them to do so. I will also encourage the prime minister who says that he will speak out against extremism in all forms, to speak out against extremism that is coming into Australia through this conference, and particularly to call on his Liberal members not to go through with their appearance at this conference because when the Liberal party and its members go on stage, they give a tick and ... an OK to the type of hate speech that is being imported through this conference. And free speech is different to hate speech, and I’m all for free speech. Amanda Stoker says we can talk to racists and decide how it will all be OK.
That’s not the case here because the government has already taken decisions to ban people who would seek to create racial division in Australia, and they should do that here.That’s not the case here because the government has already taken decisions to ban people who would seek to create racial division in Australia, and they should do that here.
... I find it disturbing; we saw it in Senate question time, [Mathias Cormann] could not bring himself to say that it was OK for senator Stoker and Mr Kelly to appear on stage. He took these questions on notice; he condemned the remarks. Quite frankly, we cannot as an Australian community sit back and watch the values that make this country so successful, that Malcolm Turnbull often said, we are the most successful multicultural nation on earth, we should uphold that and we shouldn’t sit back and have a relaxed attitude when we have conferences being organised ...... I find it disturbing; we saw it in Senate question time, [Mathias Cormann] could not bring himself to say that it was OK for senator Stoker and Mr Kelly to appear on stage. He took these questions on notice; he condemned the remarks. Quite frankly, we cannot as an Australian community sit back and watch the values that make this country so successful, that Malcolm Turnbull often said, we are the most successful multicultural nation on earth, we should uphold that and we shouldn’t sit back and have a relaxed attitude when we have conferences being organised ...
The point I’m making is that we should not sit back and let this happen without calling it out, and calling on the Liberal National government to oppose same standards they have applied in recent months.”The point I’m making is that we should not sit back and let this happen without calling it out, and calling on the Liberal National government to oppose same standards they have applied in recent months.”
My inbox is now full of statements from Labor shadow ministers with the title “government misleads on ...”My inbox is now full of statements from Labor shadow ministers with the title “government misleads on ...”
So liar is out, but mislead is in. Potato/potatoh lives on.So liar is out, but mislead is in. Potato/potatoh lives on.
Authorities in Western Australia have charged live export company Emanuel Exports and two former directors with animal welfare offences over a shipment to the Middle East in August 2017, in which more than 2,400 sheep died of heat stress.Authorities in Western Australia have charged live export company Emanuel Exports and two former directors with animal welfare offences over a shipment to the Middle East in August 2017, in which more than 2,400 sheep died of heat stress.
Footage of the voyage was leaked by whistleblowers to Animals Australia and prompted the review of the heat stress standards for sheep export, which saw both the live export industry and the federal regulator place a ban on the export of sheep from Australia to the Middle East during the northern summer this year.Footage of the voyage was leaked by whistleblowers to Animals Australia and prompted the review of the heat stress standards for sheep export, which saw both the live export industry and the federal regulator place a ban on the export of sheep from Australia to the Middle East during the northern summer this year.
The charges follow an 18-month investigation from the WA primary industries and regional development department, which began before the whistleblower footage was leaked.The charges follow an 18-month investigation from the WA primary industries and regional development department, which began before the whistleblower footage was leaked.
Emanuel Exports’ managing director, Nicholas Daws, said the company would “vigorously defend the matter in court”.Emanuel Exports’ managing director, Nicholas Daws, said the company would “vigorously defend the matter in court”.
The court date has not yet been set.The court date has not yet been set.
David Gillespie is delivering a personal statement on the reporting of his comments at the doorstop this morning.David Gillespie is delivering a personal statement on the reporting of his comments at the doorstop this morning.
He says he has been misrepresented because he was unaware of the allegations raised in the SMH and the Age, because he hadn’t read the story, and thought it was in relation to the leadership spill last year.He says he has been misrepresented because he was unaware of the allegations raised in the SMH and the Age, because he hadn’t read the story, and thought it was in relation to the leadership spill last year.
So he was “misrepresented” because he commented on something without knowing anything about it.So he was “misrepresented” because he commented on something without knowing anything about it.
And apparently thought it was normal journalists would be asking about a story almost a year after it was first aired. Just randomly bringing it up on a Wednesday morning.And apparently thought it was normal journalists would be asking about a story almost a year after it was first aired. Just randomly bringing it up on a Wednesday morning.
Cool. Beans.Cool. Beans.