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| Labor to back Coalition's 'vegan terrorist' bill – politics live | Labor to back Coalition's 'vegan terrorist' bill – politics live |
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| For the people up the back, who missed the post a few weeks (months, who can say) ago – James Ashby’s ban on entering parliament has expired and he has been back in the building for some time. | |
| Here is what Anne Rushton had to say on how many people the government estimates would need the $65,000 rehabilitation support it is putting forward as part of its push to have its drug testing welfare recipient bill passed: | |
| In estimating how we put that package together we estimate between two and 3% of the 5,000 people tested are likely to fail the second test, or test positive for the second test. | |
| We hope it is lower than that, that is what we have estimated. And estimating that number, we decided to set aside an amount of money that we thought was more than adequate, probably generous, to be able to provide the services for those two or 3%. | |
| Making sure, if, for some reason, disappointingly we saw a higher number of people, return positive the second time, we would have those additional resources set aside. | |
| The amount was an extrapolation of the estimated number, it is not a limit, it just was an extrapolation. | |
| What will the money do? | |
| Provide the individualised service to the individual who tested positive the second time so we can case manage them individually. As we know everybody presents in a different way and will require a different set of services. Some require a small amount of intervention, others may take quite a long time. | |
| The second area is to make sure we have the resources to be able to provide to the providers within these regions, so if they need to beef up their facilities and resources to meet an increase in demand, they will be able to do that. | |
| The third pool of money we set aside will be to make sure, if for a particular reason those resources aren’t able to be upscaled quickly enough, we can buy in the additional resources. We want to make sure anybody who is testing positive twice and requires this assistance will be able to access it. | |
| I probably should have put this up earlier, but following on from Labor’s attack this week, that the government needs to stop looking at ways to wedge Labor and run the country, Graham Perrett came up with a new term last night during one of the debates: | I probably should have put this up earlier, but following on from Labor’s attack this week, that the government needs to stop looking at ways to wedge Labor and run the country, Graham Perrett came up with a new term last night during one of the debates: |
| I rise to speak on the fair work laws amendment (proper use of worker benefits) bill 2019. It is yet another Orwellian nomenclature from the ministry of truth opposite – unbelievable! This isn’t legislation; this is “wedgislation”. | |
| I mean, fair dinkum, we’ve dealt with this before, yet here it is back again. What do we have? We have a government focused on union bashing – that’s their favourite pastime – rather than actually looking after the national economy and the best interests of the nation. Those opposite don’t care about the terrible conditions that employees have to put up with. No, they’re trying to wrap the representatives of working Australians in red tape so that they can’t actually do their job. | |
| Social Services Minister Anne Ruston says she expects around 500 recipients to test positive initially for illicit substances as part of the 5000-strong trial. She expects only 1 - 2% of the total number will test positive a second time and be referred for treatment. #auspol | Social Services Minister Anne Ruston says she expects around 500 recipients to test positive initially for illicit substances as part of the 5000-strong trial. She expects only 1 - 2% of the total number will test positive a second time and be referred for treatment. #auspol |
| Equality Australia and Democracy in Colour have presented a petition to shadow attorney general Mark Dreyfus and Greens senator Janet Rice calling for a fair and balanced religious discrimination law, after backlash against the Coalition’s exposure draft bill. | Equality Australia and Democracy in Colour have presented a petition to shadow attorney general Mark Dreyfus and Greens senator Janet Rice calling for a fair and balanced religious discrimination law, after backlash against the Coalition’s exposure draft bill. |
| The Greens are clear they can’t support the current bill but Dreyfus avoided expressing a personal opinion: | The Greens are clear they can’t support the current bill but Dreyfus avoided expressing a personal opinion: |
| This is an exposure draft ... It’s far too early to adopt a definitive position in respect of any of this bill simply because it’s not clear that the government will be proceeding with what’s in the exposure draft. In fact if you listen carefully to things the attorney general has said publicly about this, I think it seems highly likely the government is contemplating a change ... we will wait and see what the government finally presents to parliament, when that occurs.” | This is an exposure draft ... It’s far too early to adopt a definitive position in respect of any of this bill simply because it’s not clear that the government will be proceeding with what’s in the exposure draft. In fact if you listen carefully to things the attorney general has said publicly about this, I think it seems highly likely the government is contemplating a change ... we will wait and see what the government finally presents to parliament, when that occurs.” |
| But Dreyfus’ frontbench colleagues have not been nearly so circumspect: Michelle Rowland and Joel Fitzgibbon have suggested Labor should consider supporting it, Chris Bowen is working behind the scenes for that outcome. | But Dreyfus’ frontbench colleagues have not been nearly so circumspect: Michelle Rowland and Joel Fitzgibbon have suggested Labor should consider supporting it, Chris Bowen is working behind the scenes for that outcome. |
| Tanya Plibersek has warned that overriding state discrimination law would be a “real problem” with the legislation and Penny Wong has also expressed concerns. | Tanya Plibersek has warned that overriding state discrimination law would be a “real problem” with the legislation and Penny Wong has also expressed concerns. |
| Dreyfus said his colleagues had simply noted comments by “many different groups pointing to problems” with the bill, but Labor hasn’t got a final position yet. | Dreyfus said his colleagues had simply noted comments by “many different groups pointing to problems” with the bill, but Labor hasn’t got a final position yet. |
| Labor MPs have decided to back the government’s new agricultural protection bill - known as the “vegan terrorists” bill – despite three MPs speaking against it. | Labor MPs have decided to back the government’s new agricultural protection bill - known as the “vegan terrorists” bill – despite three MPs speaking against it. |
| Kim Carr was the most vocal opponent, raising concerns about the party “capitulating” to the government. | Kim Carr was the most vocal opponent, raising concerns about the party “capitulating” to the government. |
| Penny Wong hit back at the suggestion, saying the argument “that we are capitulating on major issues is a Greens tactic and we must take it on”. | Penny Wong hit back at the suggestion, saying the argument “that we are capitulating on major issues is a Greens tactic and we must take it on”. |
| Albanese also spoke about the Labor party’s direction and the review process under way, saying that “if you do the same thing in politics, you will get the same outcomes”. | Albanese also spoke about the Labor party’s direction and the review process under way, saying that “if you do the same thing in politics, you will get the same outcomes”. |
| The Intelligence and Security Committee have determined what is a terrorist organisation for this point in 2019. From its statement: | The Intelligence and Security Committee have determined what is a terrorist organisation for this point in 2019. From its statement: |
| The Intelligence and Security Committee today tabled its report supporting regulations listing and re-listing groups, such as Islamic State-Somalia, as terrorist organisations under the criminal code. | The Intelligence and Security Committee today tabled its report supporting regulations listing and re-listing groups, such as Islamic State-Somalia, as terrorist organisations under the criminal code. |
| The committee reviewed the process for listing terrorist organisations and the information provided to the minister for home affairs in support of regulations affecting the listings, which must demonstrate that, each group: | The committee reviewed the process for listing terrorist organisations and the information provided to the minister for home affairs in support of regulations affecting the listings, which must demonstrate that, each group: |
| is directly, or indirectly engaged in, preparing, planning, assisting in or fostering the doing of a terrorist act; or | is directly, or indirectly engaged in, preparing, planning, assisting in or fostering the doing of a terrorist act; or |
| that they advocated the doing of a terrorist act. | that they advocated the doing of a terrorist act. |
| is directly, or indirectly engaged in, preparing, planning, assisting in or fostering the doing of a terrorist act; or | is directly, or indirectly engaged in, preparing, planning, assisting in or fostering the doing of a terrorist act; or |
| that they advocated the doing of a terrorist act. | that they advocated the doing of a terrorist act. |
| The committee’s report, review of the listing of Islamic State-Somalia and the re-listing of Abu Sayyaf Group, al-Qa’ida, al-Qa’ida in the Lands of the Islamic Maghreb, Jabhat Fatah al-Sham and Jemaah Islamiyah as terrorist organisations under the criminal code, asserts that appropriate processes had been followed in the listing of these groups and that each group meets the definition of a terrorist organisation under the criminal code. | The committee’s report, review of the listing of Islamic State-Somalia and the re-listing of Abu Sayyaf Group, al-Qa’ida, al-Qa’ida in the Lands of the Islamic Maghreb, Jabhat Fatah al-Sham and Jemaah Islamiyah as terrorist organisations under the criminal code, asserts that appropriate processes had been followed in the listing of these groups and that each group meets the definition of a terrorist organisation under the criminal code. |
| The committee’s chair, Mr Andrew Hastie MP, said the PJCIS had an important role in the oversight of terrorist organisation listings, as individuals whom engage with listed organisations may be charged with serious offences including: being a member of a terrorist organisation, recruiting on behalf of a terrorist organisation, or getting funds to or from a terrorist organisation. | The committee’s chair, Mr Andrew Hastie MP, said the PJCIS had an important role in the oversight of terrorist organisation listings, as individuals whom engage with listed organisations may be charged with serious offences including: being a member of a terrorist organisation, recruiting on behalf of a terrorist organisation, or getting funds to or from a terrorist organisation. |
| Andrew Leigh has responded to Ken Henry’s comments (unsurprisingly, since they go to Labor’s current attack on the government in regards to the economy). | Andrew Leigh has responded to Ken Henry’s comments (unsurprisingly, since they go to Labor’s current attack on the government in regards to the economy). |
| Ken Henry’s excoriating views on the state of public policy today reflect the Morrison government’s rudderless drift. The Morrison government is the dog that caught the car, and doesn’t know what to do next. Australia faces massive challenges – from inequality to productivity, climate change to wage stagnation – and yet the fresh thinking that used to characterise policymaking is sadly lacking from the Coalition.” | Ken Henry’s excoriating views on the state of public policy today reflect the Morrison government’s rudderless drift. The Morrison government is the dog that caught the car, and doesn’t know what to do next. Australia faces massive challenges – from inequality to productivity, climate change to wage stagnation – and yet the fresh thinking that used to characterise policymaking is sadly lacking from the Coalition.” |
| Former Treasury boss Ken Henry has had a few things to say, according to this report from the Sydney Morning Herald and the Age’s Shane Wright: | Former Treasury boss Ken Henry has had a few things to say, according to this report from the Sydney Morning Herald and the Age’s Shane Wright: |
| Australian politicians are failing the nation by ignoring the advice of experts, former Treasury secretary Ken Henry has claimed, warning large numbers of people could miss out on a job because of their deliberate ignorance. | Australian politicians are failing the nation by ignoring the advice of experts, former Treasury secretary Ken Henry has claimed, warning large numbers of people could miss out on a job because of their deliberate ignorance. |
| In excoriating comments to a small gathering of MPs and social scientists in Canberra on Tuesday, Dr Henry said governments were claiming success for policies that had not fixed the problem they were developed to confront. | In excoriating comments to a small gathering of MPs and social scientists in Canberra on Tuesday, Dr Henry said governments were claiming success for policies that had not fixed the problem they were developed to confront. |
| ...Dr Henry also cited poor quality infrastructure that had led to congested major cities unable to deal with the fastest population growth in the developed world and wide-scale cases of environmental degradation including the “unsustainable and environmentally damaging water usage in the Murray-Darling basin”. | ...Dr Henry also cited poor quality infrastructure that had led to congested major cities unable to deal with the fastest population growth in the developed world and wide-scale cases of environmental degradation including the “unsustainable and environmentally damaging water usage in the Murray-Darling basin”. |
| Jacqui Lambie has responded to Pauline Hanson’s comments from a little earlier today (Hanson questioned why Lambie would reject the government’s welfare drug-testing proposal, given her family’s personal experience with drug addiction). | Jacqui Lambie has responded to Pauline Hanson’s comments from a little earlier today (Hanson questioned why Lambie would reject the government’s welfare drug-testing proposal, given her family’s personal experience with drug addiction). |
| My son is an example of what happens when you have access to the support & rehab services you need. 500K Aussies don't have access to those services. My son has moved on from the past, he can thank his 18 mths @teenchallenge in Toowoomba & the people of QLD for that.#auspol | My son is an example of what happens when you have access to the support & rehab services you need. 500K Aussies don't have access to those services. My son has moved on from the past, he can thank his 18 mths @teenchallenge in Toowoomba & the people of QLD for that.#auspol |
| The parliamentary bells are ringing, meaning the official proceedings are about to get under way. | The parliamentary bells are ringing, meaning the official proceedings are about to get under way. |