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| Brexit: 'I will not negotiate a delay with the EU,' Boris Johnson tells MPs after vote defeat – live news | Brexit: 'I will not negotiate a delay with the EU,' Boris Johnson tells MPs after vote defeat – live news |
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| Another response, this time from the the taoiseach: | |
| The EU & UK agreed a Withdrawal Agreement on Thursday that defends Ireland’s interests. The Commons voted today to defer a decision on whether or not to ratify that agreement. To date, no request for an extension has been made by the UK Government. | |
| Here is what the European Parliament’s representative on Brexit has said about today’s events: | |
| The @Europarl_EN's Brexit Steering Group will consider the outcome of today's vote for the Letwin amendment on Monday. Whatever happens next, the marches outside the Parliament show just how important a close EU - UK future relationship is. | |
| The leader of the house, Jacob Rees-Mogg, has also been given a police escort leaving parliament. | |
| Make of this what you will - protesters screaming and chanting "traitor" and "shame on you" at Jacob Rees-Mogg as he leaves Parliament just now with his 12-year-old son. pic.twitter.com/B8Q5epduqi | |
| The business secretary, Andrea Leadsom, was escorted by police as she left the House of Commons to the sound of protesters on the people’s vote march shouting: “Shame on You”: | |
| Andrea Leadsom given police escort as she leaves Parliament pic.twitter.com/ALQK7CdCys | |
| Thank goodness for our superb police. Just walked home safely from HoC with their protection - why do the so called ‘People’s Vote’ protesters think it’s ok to abuse, intimidate and scream in the face of someone they don’t agree with? So frightening, and so grateful to the police | |
| Having left the Commons after the Letwin amendment was passed, a number of MPs have been addressing the people’s vote march. | |
| John McDonnell: "We cannot support this deal. It is now time to revert to the fundamental principle that underlies our democracy. Let our people decide. Let democracy reign once again." #PeoplesVoteMarch | |
| Sam Gyimah warns against the UK becoming a nation run by lobbyists and calls for a people's vote. "Super Saturday just turned into soufflé Saturday. The deal falls far short of the expectations set during the referendum campaign. As a country, we are better off in the EU." | |
| Smattering of applause by the screen on Pall Mall as Ed Davey calls on Remainers to embrace their "Leave brothers" and help overcome inequalities in the UK, before Jo Swinson thanks everyone for their work campaigning and celebrates how the UK remains in the EU #PeoplesVoteMarch | |
| Anna Soubry: "This right wing Tory government is ruthless in their ideological dreams and desires and want to drive through the hardest Brexit possible. The fight has to continue, harder than ever before. The only way through it is a people's vote." #PeoplesVoteMarch | |
| The decision by MPs to pass the Letwin amendment brings the legal action against the prime minister which resumes on Monday in Scotland’s highest civil court into sharp relief. | The decision by MPs to pass the Letwin amendment brings the legal action against the prime minister which resumes on Monday in Scotland’s highest civil court into sharp relief. |
| The court of session will resume its hearing into a request for an emergency interdict, or injunction, to force Johnson to send the Brexit extension letter required by the Benn act. | The court of session will resume its hearing into a request for an emergency interdict, or injunction, to force Johnson to send the Brexit extension letter required by the Benn act. |
| Johnson told the Commons on Saturday he was not legally required to do so – a position the court is now likely to test on Monday. | Johnson told the Commons on Saturday he was not legally required to do so – a position the court is now likely to test on Monday. |
| 'I will not negotiate a delay with the EU and neither does the law compel me to do so'@BorisJohnson says he will not request an extension to Brexit https://t.co/CsFRue9gLi pic.twitter.com/vTzQ77atkn | 'I will not negotiate a delay with the EU and neither does the law compel me to do so'@BorisJohnson says he will not request an extension to Brexit https://t.co/CsFRue9gLi pic.twitter.com/vTzQ77atkn |
| Ten days ago, Scotland’s most senior judge Lord Carloway, sitting with Lords Drummond-Young and Brodie, postponed a decision on enforcing the act’s provisions because they did not then know whether Johnson would have to uphold its provisions or would fail to do so. | Ten days ago, Scotland’s most senior judge Lord Carloway, sitting with Lords Drummond-Young and Brodie, postponed a decision on enforcing the act’s provisions because they did not then know whether Johnson would have to uphold its provisions or would fail to do so. |
| That case, brought by Dale Vince, the millionaire owner of the Ecotricity green energy company, Jolyon Maugham QC, the anti-Brexit campaigner, and Joanna Cherry QC, the SNP MP will resume at noon on Monday. | That case, brought by Dale Vince, the millionaire owner of the Ecotricity green energy company, Jolyon Maugham QC, the anti-Brexit campaigner, and Joanna Cherry QC, the SNP MP will resume at noon on Monday. |
| So @BorisJohnson loses again today but is threatening not to comply with #BennAct or promises made to Scottish court. Just as well we are due back in court on Monday & Mr Speaker has just confirmed to me that he’ll sig #Extension letter if court so requires | So @BorisJohnson loses again today but is threatening not to comply with #BennAct or promises made to Scottish court. Just as well we are due back in court on Monday & Mr Speaker has just confirmed to me that he’ll sig #Extension letter if court so requires |
| If Johnson has failed to send the letter as required, by 11pm tonight, the court is expected to rule on Monday on whether to give Johnson 24 hours to do so or face being held in contempt of court. | If Johnson has failed to send the letter as required, by 11pm tonight, the court is expected to rule on Monday on whether to give Johnson 24 hours to do so or face being held in contempt of court. |
| Legal sources believe the prime minister is in significant legal peril. Lawyers for the UK government told the court on 9 October they knew the solemn pledges given at an earlier hearing that Johnson would comply with the act were legally-binding. | Legal sources believe the prime minister is in significant legal peril. Lawyers for the UK government told the court on 9 October they knew the solemn pledges given at an earlier hearing that Johnson would comply with the act were legally-binding. |
| The UK government told the court of session on Friday 4 October the prime minister accepted “he is subject to the public law principle that he cannot frustrate its purpose or the purpose of its provisions. Thus he cannot act so as to prevent the letter requesting the specified extension in the act from being sent.” | The UK government told the court of session on Friday 4 October the prime minister accepted “he is subject to the public law principle that he cannot frustrate its purpose or the purpose of its provisions. Thus he cannot act so as to prevent the letter requesting the specified extension in the act from being sent.” |
| And the court will also adjudicate on a second part of the application: an interdict forcing the UK government not to frustrate or undermine the intent of the letter, by attempting to sidestep the extension move. | And the court will also adjudicate on a second part of the application: an interdict forcing the UK government not to frustrate or undermine the intent of the letter, by attempting to sidestep the extension move. |
| If he or his ministers, or their proxies, try to subvert the request for an extension – say be sending a second letter asking the EU to ignore the extension application, they will also be at risk of contempt . | If he or his ministers, or their proxies, try to subvert the request for an extension – say be sending a second letter asking the EU to ignore the extension application, they will also be at risk of contempt . |
| It is only if Johnson fails to send the letter and fails to adhere to the court’s interdict requiring him to do so that the court will consider the nuclear option. It has unique powers called nobile officium, which allow the court or its agent to send that letter to all 27 EU member states and institutions on Johnson’s behalf. | It is only if Johnson fails to send the letter and fails to adhere to the court’s interdict requiring him to do so that the court will consider the nuclear option. It has unique powers called nobile officium, which allow the court or its agent to send that letter to all 27 EU member states and institutions on Johnson’s behalf. |
| Those powers have never been used in such a way, and if the Scottish court uses them, would provoke another extraordinary constitutional confrontation. Assuming the court issues a definitive ruling next week, the case is expected to end up in the UK supreme court within days. | Those powers have never been used in such a way, and if the Scottish court uses them, would provoke another extraordinary constitutional confrontation. Assuming the court issues a definitive ruling next week, the case is expected to end up in the UK supreme court within days. |
| Proceedings in the House of Commons have now been adjourned after a lengthy discussion about what happens next following the government’s defeat on the Letwin amendment. | Proceedings in the House of Commons have now been adjourned after a lengthy discussion about what happens next following the government’s defeat on the Letwin amendment. |
| Many opposition MPs were unhappy at the prospect of the government tabling another meaningful vote for Monday. It was unclear whether the speaker, John Bercow, will grant this. | Many opposition MPs were unhappy at the prospect of the government tabling another meaningful vote for Monday. It was unclear whether the speaker, John Bercow, will grant this. |
| Last year, the speaker said the government could not keep bringing back the same question to parliament in the hope that they got a different answer. | Last year, the speaker said the government could not keep bringing back the same question to parliament in the hope that they got a different answer. |
| The independent - former Labour - MP Jared O’Mara voted for the Letwin amendment, as did the vast majority of Labour MPs. | The independent - former Labour - MP Jared O’Mara voted for the Letwin amendment, as did the vast majority of Labour MPs. |
| Only the six usual Labour MPs voted with @BorisJohnson against the Letwin motion. pic.twitter.com/WjG8MNmgbW | Only the six usual Labour MPs voted with @BorisJohnson against the Letwin motion. pic.twitter.com/WjG8MNmgbW |
| The leader of the house, Jacob Rees-Mogg, suggested there could be a meaningful vote on the Brexit deal on Monday. This was then supported by Oliver Letwin, whose amendment prevented it happening today. | The leader of the house, Jacob Rees-Mogg, suggested there could be a meaningful vote on the Brexit deal on Monday. This was then supported by Oliver Letwin, whose amendment prevented it happening today. |
| But it is for the Speaker, John Bercow, to decide whether to allow that motion on Monday and he gave the strongest indication he would not. | But it is for the Speaker, John Bercow, to decide whether to allow that motion on Monday and he gave the strongest indication he would not. |
| Bercow: "The apparent purpose of the said motion which ministers are attempting to table is to invalidate or obviate, the effect of the decision which the House reached today. And that does seem most curious or irregular." | Bercow: "The apparent purpose of the said motion which ministers are attempting to table is to invalidate or obviate, the effect of the decision which the House reached today. And that does seem most curious or irregular." |
| Earlier, as the benches emptied out after the vote, the SNP’s Joanna Cherry QC asked Bercow if he would write the letter requesting an extension if the prime minister did not do so. | Earlier, as the benches emptied out after the vote, the SNP’s Joanna Cherry QC asked Bercow if he would write the letter requesting an extension if the prime minister did not do so. |
| He said he would do so if asked by the judge or MPs. | He said he would do so if asked by the judge or MPs. |
| Here is what the Conservatives are saying: | Here is what the Conservatives are saying: |
| #BREAKING: Parliament has voted to delay Brexit again. The Prime Minister will not ask for a delay -- he will tell EU leaders there should be no more delays and we should get Brexit done on October 31st with our new deal so the country can move on. pic.twitter.com/5EE69IuhUO | #BREAKING: Parliament has voted to delay Brexit again. The Prime Minister will not ask for a delay -- he will tell EU leaders there should be no more delays and we should get Brexit done on October 31st with our new deal so the country can move on. pic.twitter.com/5EE69IuhUO |
| A spokeswoman for the European commission said it was up to the UK government to make the next move after the developments in the Commons. She said: | A spokeswoman for the European commission said it was up to the UK government to make the next move after the developments in the Commons. She said: |
| The European commission takes note of the vote in the House of Commons today on the so-called Letwin amendment meaning that the withdrawal agreement itself was not put to vote today. It will be for the UK government to inform us about the next steps as soon as possible. | The European commission takes note of the vote in the House of Commons today on the so-called Letwin amendment meaning that the withdrawal agreement itself was not put to vote today. It will be for the UK government to inform us about the next steps as soon as possible. |
| A spokesman for the European council president, Donald Tusk, declined to comment. Ambassadors for the EU27 will meet on Sunday morning to discuss the latest developments. | A spokesman for the European council president, Donald Tusk, declined to comment. Ambassadors for the EU27 will meet on Sunday morning to discuss the latest developments. |
| More from the march ... | More from the march ... |
| Here's the scale of the crowd on the streets of London. Demonstrators are demanding a "final say" on the #BrexitDeal #PeoplesVoteMarch pic.twitter.com/G2X65uZBw4 | Here's the scale of the crowd on the streets of London. Demonstrators are demanding a "final say" on the #BrexitDeal #PeoplesVoteMarch pic.twitter.com/G2X65uZBw4 |
| So proud of my father Uwe Kitzinger - probably the oldest person on the march today + central to the beginnings of UK's involvement in the EU @OxfordMail @BBCNews @josh_withey @Haroon_Siddique#PeoplesVote #PeoplesVoteMarch #StopBrexitMarch #VoteTheDealDown #FinalSay https://t.co/y1UAgSjBS3 | So proud of my father Uwe Kitzinger - probably the oldest person on the march today + central to the beginnings of UK's involvement in the EU @OxfordMail @BBCNews @josh_withey @Haroon_Siddique#PeoplesVote #PeoplesVoteMarch #StopBrexitMarch #VoteTheDealDown #FinalSay https://t.co/y1UAgSjBS3 |
| "People of all ages and backgrounds are here today," says Adchana Sivaram, who works in construction. "Brexit affects everyone. The referendum happened three years ago, it was very vague and a lot has happened since then. We should have the right to vote on the deal." pic.twitter.com/gmR58pSyAk | "People of all ages and backgrounds are here today," says Adchana Sivaram, who works in construction. "Brexit affects everyone. The referendum happened three years ago, it was very vague and a lot has happened since then. We should have the right to vote on the deal." pic.twitter.com/gmR58pSyAk |
| Boris Johnson has until 11pm to send that extension letter to the EU. | Boris Johnson has until 11pm to send that extension letter to the EU. |
| I'm guessing Johnson will send a surly Benn act letter but wants a few hours of 'MPs spoil Brexit again' headlines first. Deadline is 11pm. | I'm guessing Johnson will send a surly Benn act letter but wants a few hours of 'MPs spoil Brexit again' headlines first. Deadline is 11pm. |
| Organisers of the “people’s vote” march say there are 1 million people in attendance, my colleague Aamna Mohdin tells me. | Organisers of the “people’s vote” march say there are 1 million people in attendance, my colleague Aamna Mohdin tells me. |
| 14-year-old Juliet is out on her first #PeoplesVoteMarch. “Half my friends are from other countries. I’ve already had one friend move back to Denmark because of Brexit.” pic.twitter.com/SABmSig9G0 | 14-year-old Juliet is out on her first #PeoplesVoteMarch. “Half my friends are from other countries. I’ve already had one friend move back to Denmark because of Brexit.” pic.twitter.com/SABmSig9G0 |
| Dario Mazzola, management consultant, who was arguing with pro-Brexit protesters said: “A true democracy involves open, candid, honest and truthful dialogueIf we cant talk to one another we will have a divided society.“ #PeoplesVoteMarch pic.twitter.com/hlkLhqRM1Z | Dario Mazzola, management consultant, who was arguing with pro-Brexit protesters said: “A true democracy involves open, candid, honest and truthful dialogueIf we cant talk to one another we will have a divided society.“ #PeoplesVoteMarch pic.twitter.com/hlkLhqRM1Z |
| Here is Boris Johnson’s response to the government defeat on the amendment: | Here is Boris Johnson’s response to the government defeat on the amendment: |
| 'I will not negotiate a delay with the EU and neither does the law compel me to do so'@BorisJohnson says he will not request an extension to Brexit https://t.co/CsFRue9gLi pic.twitter.com/vTzQ77atkn | 'I will not negotiate a delay with the EU and neither does the law compel me to do so'@BorisJohnson says he will not request an extension to Brexit https://t.co/CsFRue9gLi pic.twitter.com/vTzQ77atkn |
| You can see how everyone voted here. | You can see how everyone voted here. |
| The Letwin amendment in numbers. Here's how MPs voted: pic.twitter.com/Vx2QH1AARX | The Letwin amendment in numbers. Here's how MPs voted: pic.twitter.com/Vx2QH1AARX |
| As they go on debating whether the PM can be forced to write the letter to the EU requesting an extension, No 10 is keeping mum. | As they go on debating whether the PM can be forced to write the letter to the EU requesting an extension, No 10 is keeping mum. |
| No10 flat refusing to say if Boris Johnson will write to Brussels requesting an extension | No10 flat refusing to say if Boris Johnson will write to Brussels requesting an extension |
| Even more extraordinary, one No10 spokesman suggest they are 'not allowed' to go beyond his words in the chamber. #classicdom? | Even more extraordinary, one No10 spokesman suggest they are 'not allowed' to go beyond his words in the chamber. #classicdom? |
| Just come out of an extraordinary press briefing in which Downing St point blank refused to say whether Boris Johnson will write to Brussels to ask for an extension | Just come out of an extraordinary press briefing in which Downing St point blank refused to say whether Boris Johnson will write to Brussels to ask for an extension |
| This was the reaction on the “people’s vote” march: | This was the reaction on the “people’s vote” march: |
| The moment when the Letwin amendment passed. #PeoplesVoteMarch pic.twitter.com/Pmy972RRsw | The moment when the Letwin amendment passed. #PeoplesVoteMarch pic.twitter.com/Pmy972RRsw |