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Peter Dutton expects US to take another 250 refugees from Australia – politics live Peter Dutton expects US to take another 250 refugees from Australia – politics live
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As today’s estimates hearings come to a close, it is worth noting that Labor busy bees have taken a look at the prime minister and cabinet estimates for the phrase ‘take it on notice’ and found that during yesterday’s hearing, the department took 125 questions on notice - meaning they had no answer for them. We are going to bring the blog to a close, but we will be back tomorrow morning bright eyed and bushy tailed.
That would make sense, Mathias Cormann was working overtime yesterday. There will be another day of estimates, plus whatever the house decides it is doing. And of course the sideshow, which, as we saw again today, often ends up dominating the day’s events.
Thank you so much for joining us today . A big thank you to Sarah Martin, Paul Karp and Katharine Murphy for all their work in keeping me standing, and the Guardian’s brainstrust for cleaning up my many, many mistakes.
I’ll hopefully catch you back here tomorrow. In the meantime - take care of you.
As today’s estimates hearings come to a close, it is worth noting that Labor busy bees have taken a look at the prime minister and cabinet estimates for the phrase “take it on notice” and found that during yesterday’s hearing, the department took 125 questions on notice – meaning they had no answer for them.
That would make sense – Mathias Cormann was working overtime yesterday.
You can take what Peter Dutton said there in Paul’s post as another direct appeal to Jacqui Lambie.You can take what Peter Dutton said there in Paul’s post as another direct appeal to Jacqui Lambie.
Medevac can’t be voted on until November when the senate sits again. Medevac can’t be voted on until November, when the Senate sits again.
But you’ll also notice that when pressed by David Speers, Dutton also has to backtrack But you’ll also notice that when pressed by David Speers, Dutton also had to backtrack.
Congratulations to PM @JustinTrudeau on his election victory in Canada. Looking forward to continuing our strong working relationship and the partnership between Australia and Canada.Congratulations to PM @JustinTrudeau on his election victory in Canada. Looking forward to continuing our strong working relationship and the partnership between Australia and Canada.
The home affairs minister, Peter Dutton, has spoken to Sky and delivered his usual bashing up of Labor for supporting the medevac provisions, which he described as “a con”. The home affairs minister, Peter Dutton, has spoken to Sky News and delivered his usual bashing up of Labor for supporting the medevac provisions, which he described as “a con”.
One new fact to come out of it: Dutton expects the US to take about 250 more refugees from Australia as part of the refugee swap deal. The US has so far taken just 632 refugees out of the “up to 1,250” it first promised.One new fact to come out of it: Dutton expects the US to take about 250 more refugees from Australia as part of the refugee swap deal. The US has so far taken just 632 refugees out of the “up to 1,250” it first promised.
“I think we will get somewhere in the order of 250 more will go to the US,” Dutton said.“I think we will get somewhere in the order of 250 more will go to the US,” Dutton said.
On medevac, he said that just 13 of the people who had come to Australia have required hospitalisation – about one in 10. But when host David Speers pushed him for how many of the 982 people medically evacuated to Australia under pre-existing provisions had been hospitalised, Dutton couldn’t say.Dutton said that six of the people who had come under medevac he judges to be of bad character, including one alleged to have fought for the Iranian army, and others allegedly “involved” (how – he didn’t say) in prostitution and criminal syndicates.At first, Dutton said they were not in detention, but when asked why not, he said they “may well be in detention”. He then said it is immigration minister David Coleman’s job to decide. Finally, he offered this: “I don’t know, is the true answer to it – there’s thousands of cases and I just don’t have that in front of me.”On medevac, he said that just 13 of the people who had come to Australia have required hospitalisation – about one in 10. But when host David Speers pushed him for how many of the 982 people medically evacuated to Australia under pre-existing provisions had been hospitalised, Dutton couldn’t say.Dutton said that six of the people who had come under medevac he judges to be of bad character, including one alleged to have fought for the Iranian army, and others allegedly “involved” (how – he didn’t say) in prostitution and criminal syndicates.At first, Dutton said they were not in detention, but when asked why not, he said they “may well be in detention”. He then said it is immigration minister David Coleman’s job to decide. Finally, he offered this: “I don’t know, is the true answer to it – there’s thousands of cases and I just don’t have that in front of me.”
So, when it was rhetorically convenient to claim that these people are running amok because of Labor’s negligence, he made that claim, and at the slightest scrutiny he admitted he had no idea. Good to know we are pursuing evidence-based policy.So, when it was rhetorically convenient to claim that these people are running amok because of Labor’s negligence, he made that claim, and at the slightest scrutiny he admitted he had no idea. Good to know we are pursuing evidence-based policy.
Dutton criticised Kristina Keneally for complaining about the rates of people flying to Australia and then claiming asylum, describing it as a “very small number of cases” in comparison to the millions of people who visit Australia.Dutton criticised Kristina Keneally for complaining about the rates of people flying to Australia and then claiming asylum, describing it as a “very small number of cases” in comparison to the millions of people who visit Australia.
He said the problem was not refugees on a plane but rather “her desire to be heard” as part of a “vanity project” to drag Labor’s refugee policy to the left and seize the leadership.He said the problem was not refugees on a plane but rather “her desire to be heard” as part of a “vanity project” to drag Labor’s refugee policy to the left and seize the leadership.
Scott Morrison:Scott Morrison:
Mr Speaker, one year on, I can report that the National Redress Scheme has been operating for just over a year and is giving survivors access to counselling and psychological services, monetary payments, and for those who want one, a direct personal response from an institution where the abuse occurred.Mr Speaker, one year on, I can report that the National Redress Scheme has been operating for just over a year and is giving survivors access to counselling and psychological services, monetary payments, and for those who want one, a direct personal response from an institution where the abuse occurred.
So far, more than 600 payments have been made totalling more than $50 million, with an average redress payment of $80,000. So far, more than 600 payments have been made, totalling more than $50m, with an average redress payment of $80,000.
More than 60 non-government institutions or groups of institutions are now participating in the scheme. That represents tens of thousands of locations across Australia where this happened.More than 60 non-government institutions or groups of institutions are now participating in the scheme. That represents tens of thousands of locations across Australia where this happened.
And there are other institutions who have chosen not to join. Perhaps captured by lawyers, legal advice, perhaps deaf to the cause of justice.And there are other institutions who have chosen not to join. Perhaps captured by lawyers, legal advice, perhaps deaf to the cause of justice.
All they’re doing in not joining this is doubling-down on the crimes and doubling-down on the hurt. All they’re doing in not joining this is doubling-down on the crimes and doubling-down on the hurt. And so to them I say – who have not joined – “Join. Do the decent thing. Do the right thing. Do the honourable thing.”
And so to them, I say - who have not joined - “Join. Do the decent thing. Do the right thing. Do the honourable thing.” It’s not just what survivors expect – and their families, and the families of those who did not survive. It’s what every decent, honest Australian demands. And we, in this place – all as one – demand as well.
It’s not just what survivors expect - and their families, and the families of those who did not survive. It’s what every decent, honest Australian demands.
And we, in this place - all as one - demand as well.
I also acknowledge that the redress scheme needs to do better in supporting survivors. The rate of response is not good enough. And it must improve.I also acknowledge that the redress scheme needs to do better in supporting survivors. The rate of response is not good enough. And it must improve.
Applications haven’t been processed as fast as I want them to be. That is why, earlier today, Minister Ruston announced a further investment of$11.7 million in the National Redress Scheme to improve its operation and to better support survivors. Applications haven’t been processed as fast as I want them to be. That is why, earlier today, minister Ruston announced a further investment of $11.7m in the National Redress Scheme to improve its operation and to better support survivors.
I want better outcomes. The funding will support case management of applications to reduce the number of different people a survivor may be required to deal with while their application’s being processed.I want better outcomes. The funding will support case management of applications to reduce the number of different people a survivor may be required to deal with while their application’s being processed.
It will also allow the government to hire more independent decision-makers to finalise applications as quickly as possible.It will also allow the government to hire more independent decision-makers to finalise applications as quickly as possible.
Scott Morrison is addressing the chamber, one year on from the apology to victims and survivors of institutional childhood abuse and acknowledges frustrations with the redress scheme: Scott Morrison is addressing the chamber, one year on from the apology to victims and survivors of institutional childhood abuse, and acknowledges frustrations with the redress scheme:
I think it’s important for us to go back to where we were a year ago and just simply allow the horror of those events to impact us with a heavy blow.I think it’s important for us to go back to where we were a year ago and just simply allow the horror of those events to impact us with a heavy blow.
Mr Speaker, the government will continue to report annually on this progress, as we should.Mr Speaker, the government will continue to report annually on this progress, as we should.
Of the royal commission’s 409 recommendations, the 84 regarding redress have been addressed through the implementation of the National Redress Scheme. Of the royal commission’s 409 recommendations, the 84 regarding redress have been addressed through the implementation of the National Redress Scheme. The Commonwealth has a further 122 recommendations that we’re working on either wholly or partially with our state and territory colleagues.
The Commonwealth has a further 122 recommendations that we’re working on either wholly or partially with our state and territory colleagues. I’m pleased that work on these recommendations is well-advanced – around a third have already been implemented and a remainder are well underway.
I’m pleased that work on these recommendations is well-advanced - around a third have already been implemented and a remainder are well underway. The commonwealth has also taken on a national leadership role for more than 30 additional recommendations that were primarily addressed to the states and territories, and we’re working closely with those states and territories on those matters: we tabled the first annual progress report last December and will continue doing that each year for five consecutive years but, frankly, as long as it takes.
The Commonwealth has also taken on a national leadership role for more than 30 additional recommendations that were primarily addressed to the states and territories, and we’re working closely with those states and territories on those matters: we tabled the first annual progress report last December and will continue doing that each year for five consecutive years but, frankly, as long as it takes.
All states and territories also published 2018 annual progress reports and will also provide annual reporting.All states and territories also published 2018 annual progress reports and will also provide annual reporting.
This year, we have also encouraged a further 42 non-government institutions whose conduct was called into question at the royal commission to report on their actions and to change their practices.This year, we have also encouraged a further 42 non-government institutions whose conduct was called into question at the royal commission to report on their actions and to change their practices.
The public accountability across governments and non-government institutions is crucial and vital.The public accountability across governments and non-government institutions is crucial and vital.
Patricia Karvelas: Do you think Michael McCormack and Bridget McKenzie are making it clear enough? That’s my question.Patricia Karvelas: Do you think Michael McCormack and Bridget McKenzie are making it clear enough? That’s my question.
Barnaby Joyce: They make it clear enough because there is no One Nation, there’s no - Pauline Hanson isn’t in cabinet. She’s not a minister. Neither’s Jacqui Lambie. They’re not in cabinet. They’re not ministers. Barnaby Joyce: They make it clear enough because there is no One Nation, there’s no – Pauline Hanson isn’t in cabinet. She’s not a minister. Neither’s Jacqui Lambie. They’re not in cabinet. They’re not ministers.
PK: Clearly, Bridget McKenzie responded to her calls, just not yours.PK: Clearly, Bridget McKenzie responded to her calls, just not yours.
BJ: We were driving forward with that, and the ultimate outcome was that a National Party’s minister has brought this about. Not an Independent senator. A National Party minister broad the dairy code about, like the sugar code, like looking after the people around Rockhampton with Defence acquisitions, like Inland Rail, like the dams... BJ: We were driving forward with that, and the ultimate outcome was that a National party’s minister has brought this about. Not an Independent senator. A National party minister broad the dairy code about, like the sugar code, like looking after the people around Rockhampton with Defence acquisitions, like Inland Rail, like the dams...
PK: OK. Do you feel like One Nation is kind of squeezing you out? Is that’s what’s going on here? You’re a bit worried about the way this is playing out in regional Australia?PK: OK. Do you feel like One Nation is kind of squeezing you out? Is that’s what’s going on here? You’re a bit worried about the way this is playing out in regional Australia?
BJ: They’re not squeezing me out.BJ: They’re not squeezing me out.
PK: Well, your party?PK: Well, your party?
BJ: I think I have an obligation to tell the Australian people the truth about politics. I wrote about it in my book, Weatherboard And Iron. It goes through a committee, which the Nationals are in, and through ministers, which are Nationals ministers. It’s not brought forward by random people in the coffee shop. BJ: I think I have an obligation to tell the Australian people the truth about politics. I wrote about it in my book, Weatherboard and Iron. It goes through a committee, which the Nationals are in, and through ministers, which are Nationals ministers. It’s not brought forward by random people in the coffee shop.
PK: Is there still frustrations around these issues - tensions with One Nation and visibility on leadership on issues? It’s us clearly telling the Australian people where the truth lies. It is done in cabinet. It is done in ERC. It is done by having - by creating the government. PK: Is there still frustrations around these issues – tensions with One Nation and visibility on leadership on issues? It’s us clearly telling the Australian people where the truth lies. It is done in cabinet. It is done in ERC. It is done by having – by creating the government.
PK: Are they sorted now?PK: Are they sorted now?
BJ: I don’t think we had any tensions to start off with.BJ: I don’t think we had any tensions to start off with.
Patricia Karvelas: So why are these MPs so grumpy?Patricia Karvelas: So why are these MPs so grumpy?
Barnaby Joyce: Patricia, we’re in a position of a drought. There is so much pressure coming onto us from our constituency. We just want to make absolutely certain that people clearly know the reason you have a dairy code is because the Nationals pushed for it. The reason you have a national investment corporation is the Nationals pushed it. A sugar code - the Nationals pushed it. Nationals’ policy is an APVMA. Barnaby Joyce: Patricia, we’re in a position of a drought. There is so much pressure coming onto us from our constituency. We just want to make absolutely certain that people clearly know the reason you have a dairy code is because the Nationals pushed for it. The reason you have a national investment corporation is the Nationals pushed it. A sugar code – the Nationals pushed it. Nationals’ policy is an APVMA.
PK: So your issue was that that wasn’t being articulated clearly enough from the leadership, right?PK: So your issue was that that wasn’t being articulated clearly enough from the leadership, right?
BJ: The reason you had the road from Waverton to Boulias was part of my agreement with Malcolm Turnbull at the start to build it, just like the $10 billion Inland Rail. These are Nationals policies. We can get these things because, without the Nationals, there would be no coalition government. BJ: The reason you had the road from Waverton to Boulias was part of my agreement with Malcolm Turnbull at the start to build it, just like the $10bn Inland Rail. These are Nationals policies. We can get these things because, without the Nationals, there would be no coalition government.
PK: As Leader of The Nationals, isn’t Michael McCormack ultimately responsible for driving your party’s response to issues like drought? PK: As leader of the Nationals, isn’t Michael McCormack ultimately responsible for driving your party’s response to issues like drought?
BJ: And Michael does the very best job that he can. He is also dealing with the incredible pressure that would be coming on him to make sure that we just keep focus on the people on the drought all the time. We do that as well as deal with the myriad of other issues that go before us. But there is no senator by themselves in a place which really doesn’t deliver the policy that is brought about a -- has brought about a dairy code, a sugar code. Nationals did that. Regional Investment Corporation - Nationals did that. BJ: And Michael does the very best job that he can. He is also dealing with the incredible pressure that would be coming on him to make sure that we just keep focus on the people on the drought all the time. We do that as well as deal with the myriad of other issues that go before us. But there is no senator by themselves in a place which really doesn’t deliver the policy that is brought about a – has brought about a dairy code, a sugar code. Nationals did that. Regional Investment Corporation – Nationals did that.
PK: Let’s not get too repetitive. People hate hate repetition.PK: Let’s not get too repetitive. People hate hate repetition.
BJ: No, they don’t.BJ: No, they don’t.
Barnaby Joyce says there is frustration that the Nationals aren’t getting credit for the work its MPs are doing, but won’t say why that is.Barnaby Joyce says there is frustration that the Nationals aren’t getting credit for the work its MPs are doing, but won’t say why that is.
Patricia Karvelas: Prime Minister Scott Morrison has taken the lead on drought policy, which would normally be the domain of the Nationals - your party. Do Nationals MPs feel sidelined? Patricia Karvelas: Prime minister Scott Morrison has taken the lead on drought policy, which would normally be the domain of the Nationals – your party. Do Nationals MPs feel sidelined?
Barnaby Joyce: Well, the Prime Minister made it that, when he became issue, there was issue No. 1. We’re happy about that. That means we can drive the agenda. And we are doing that. And I suppose what the Nationals get upset with is we drive an agenda, we do so much work in a space, then obviously if Pauline Hanson comes out and announces it, it’s not that she developed the policy, it’s not that she drove the agenda - we did. We did. Barnaby Joyce: Well, the prime minister made it that ... there was issue No 1. We’re happy about that. That means we can drive the agenda. And we are doing that. And I suppose what the Nationals get upset with is we drive an agenda, we do so much work in a space, then obviously if Pauline Hanson comes out and announces it, it’s not that she developed the policy, it’s not that she drove the agenda – we did. We did.
PK: So who are you frustrated at?PK: So who are you frustrated at?
BJ: Well, the process that people clearly understand at the Nationals are hard at work continuously. We are dealing with our constituents continuously. BJ: Well, the process that people clearly understand is the Nationals are hard at work continuously. We are dealing with our constituents continuously.
PK: So is it your view your leadership is misrepresenting the work that you’re doing on this and giving credit to One Nation? That’s what you’re saying.PK: So is it your view your leadership is misrepresenting the work that you’re doing on this and giving credit to One Nation? That’s what you’re saying.
BJ:No, it’s not. I do believe that sometimes they get the jump on some of these things and they don’t deserve to. Remember, even where they live - we live in regional areas. We don’t have to go to a drought area. We just have to open our back door. It’s right there. We talk to the people who are dealing with drought every day. And we hear the angst. When I’m sit in Question Time and should be dutifully listening to everybody, I’m actually reading so many emails from people in drought areas. I understand their frustration. I hear it. I was up there on the weekend talking to people, on the ground, so they speak - not too hard when I actually own the ground and I’m selling cattle myself. These are the issues that we fight for, and we drive home agendas such as changes to the FHA, drive home agendas such as concessional loans. We created the policy to set up the national federation. That was Nationals policy. BJ:No, it’s not. I do believe that sometimes they get the jump on some of these things and they don’t deserve to. Remember, even where they live – we live in regional areas. We don’t have to go to a drought area. We just have to open our back door. It’s right there. We talk to the people who are dealing with drought every day. And we hear the angst. When I’m sit in question time and should be dutifully listening to everybody, I’m actually reading so many emails from people in drought areas. I understand their frustration. I hear it. I was up there on the weekend talking to people, on the ground, so they speak – not too hard when I actually own the ground and I’m selling cattle myself. These are the issues that we fight for, and we drive home agendas such as changes to the FHA, drive home agendas such as concessional loans. We created the policy to set up the national federation. That was Nationals policy.
PK: So your view is you’re not getting the credit. So who’s responsible for that?PK: So your view is you’re not getting the credit. So who’s responsible for that?
BJ: There’s the Regional Investment Corporation - we drove that... BJ: There’s the Regional Investment Corporation – we drove that...
PK: You keep telling me you’re not getting the credit. Why aren’t you getting the credit?PK: You keep telling me you’re not getting the credit. Why aren’t you getting the credit?
BJ: I’m just saying - looking after the people at the Defence Forces in Rockhampton... BJ: I’m just saying – looking after the people at the Defence Forces in Rockhampton...
Barnaby Joyce is speaking to Patricia Karvelas:Barnaby Joyce is speaking to Patricia Karvelas:
Q: Now, the coordinator-general for drought, Major-General Stephen Day, delivered his final report in April to the Prime Minister. Why won’t the Prime Minister release that report? Should he just release that report to settle this?Q: Now, the coordinator-general for drought, Major-General Stephen Day, delivered his final report in April to the Prime Minister. Why won’t the Prime Minister release that report? Should he just release that report to settle this?
BJ:BJ:
No, that’s a question for the Prime Minister. PK, I’ve been through the iterations of this. People saying there’s no report, then you show them there’s umpteen reports, and then they just go down a rabbit warren basically trying to say, “Well, you’ve done so much work - why don’t you put it in the public record?” Well, because it’s a report directly to the Prime Minister.No, that’s a question for the Prime Minister. PK, I’ve been through the iterations of this. People saying there’s no report, then you show them there’s umpteen reports, and then they just go down a rabbit warren basically trying to say, “Well, you’ve done so much work - why don’t you put it in the public record?” Well, because it’s a report directly to the Prime Minister.
It’s up to the Prime Minister whether they want to print it or not. If they don’t, I can understand that. I can be quite frank that a lot of my discussions with the Prime Minister are direct, to the point, and he would have taken what I said into account - I know that because of some of the policy outcomes - but I wasn’t talking to Australia, I was talking directly to him.It’s up to the Prime Minister whether they want to print it or not. If they don’t, I can understand that. I can be quite frank that a lot of my discussions with the Prime Minister are direct, to the point, and he would have taken what I said into account - I know that because of some of the policy outcomes - but I wasn’t talking to Australia, I was talking directly to him.
Q: Should you have done a bit more work than just sending some text messages and having some conversations?Q: Should you have done a bit more work than just sending some text messages and having some conversations?
BJ: Patricia, that’s also wrong. What you said there is wrong. And actually, you would have seen - you probably didn’t, but there was a Facebook post where I actually showed I think it was eight or nine paper reports, as well as text messages, as well as other electronic means of directly speaking to the Prime Minister at the spot on that day. Now, Patricia, this is the reality - the reality is, the assertion that we didn’t send written reports is wrong. They’ve got it wrong.BJ: Patricia, that’s also wrong. What you said there is wrong. And actually, you would have seen - you probably didn’t, but there was a Facebook post where I actually showed I think it was eight or nine paper reports, as well as text messages, as well as other electronic means of directly speaking to the Prime Minister at the spot on that day. Now, Patricia, this is the reality - the reality is, the assertion that we didn’t send written reports is wrong. They’ve got it wrong.
Q: Hang on a minute. You didn’t do your own report, though. That’s clear. You sent maybe other reports, and some messages.Q: Hang on a minute. You didn’t do your own report, though. That’s clear. You sent maybe other reports, and some messages.
BJ: I may have sent reports to the Prime Minister over and over again, Patricia. That is the actual truth.BJ: I may have sent reports to the Prime Minister over and over again, Patricia. That is the actual truth.
Q: Your own report, with evidence and recommendations?Q: Your own report, with evidence and recommendations?
BJ: Patricia, to Scott Morrison, from Barnaby Joyce, with details of the drought - is that a report or is that a report?BJ: Patricia, to Scott Morrison, from Barnaby Joyce, with details of the drought - is that a report or is that a report?
Just a reminder that the original ‘there is no report’ came from David Littleproud to the parliament, when it asked for Joyce’s report to be tabled.Just a reminder that the original ‘there is no report’ came from David Littleproud to the parliament, when it asked for Joyce’s report to be tabled.
And Peter Dutton will be on Sky, talking Medevac.And Peter Dutton will be on Sky, talking Medevac.
On @abcnews TV #afternoonbriefing at 4pm my guests are @Barnaby_Joyce plus my panel with Labor’s Ed Husic and Tim Wilson #auspolOn @abcnews TV #afternoonbriefing at 4pm my guests are @Barnaby_Joyce plus my panel with Labor’s Ed Husic and Tim Wilson #auspol
A couple of absences: George Christensen and Mike Kelly.A couple of absences: George Christensen and Mike Kelly.
LEAVE OF ABSENCE TO MEMBERMr Porter (leader of the house) moved: that leave of absence until 22 November 2019 be given to Mr Christensen, for personal reasons.LEAVE OF ABSENCE TO MEMBERMr Porter (leader of the house) moved: that leave of absence until 22 November 2019 be given to Mr Christensen, for personal reasons.
LEAVE OF ABSENCE TO MEMBERMr Burke (manager of opposition business) moved: that leave of absence until 5 December 2019 be given to Dr MJ Kelly, for personal illness and consequential surgery.(Yes, both of these are legitimate.)LEAVE OF ABSENCE TO MEMBERMr Burke (manager of opposition business) moved: that leave of absence until 5 December 2019 be given to Dr MJ Kelly, for personal illness and consequential surgery.(Yes, both of these are legitimate.)
Richard Marles is making a personal explanation to the house about one of Dutton’s answers (part of which I highlighted below) pointing out that Labor supported the passage of the Migration Amendment (Character and General Visa Cancellation) Bill 2014 in the House and Senate and Dutton was wrong.Richard Marles is making a personal explanation to the house about one of Dutton’s answers (part of which I highlighted below) pointing out that Labor supported the passage of the Migration Amendment (Character and General Visa Cancellation) Bill 2014 in the House and Senate and Dutton was wrong.
Peter Dutton is back (it’s a double Dutton dixer day) but all I can see is Scott Morrison has stacked the folders, meaning we are done.Peter Dutton is back (it’s a double Dutton dixer day) but all I can see is Scott Morrison has stacked the folders, meaning we are done.