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| Impeachment Hearings Live Updates: Morrison and Volker Begin Testimony | |
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| Kurt D. Volker, President Trump’s special envoy for Ukraine, will testify Tuesday afternoon that he was out of the loop for key moments as Rudolph W. Giuliani, the president’s personal attorneys, and others working for Mr. Trump effectively sought to pressure Ukraine to investigate former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. and other Democrats. | |
| Mr. Volker will use his appearance to try to clarify his previous closed-door testimony and reconcile his it with the accounts subsequently provided by other witnesses, who have described him as one of the “three amigos” working on Ukraine along with Energy Secretary Rick Perry and Gordon D. Sondland, the Trump megadonor turned ambassador to the European Union. | |
| Among other things, he plans to tell lawmakers that he was not aware that Mr. Sondland had told Ukrainian officials that the release of $391 million in suspended American aid was tied to their commitment to the investigations. | |
| Mr. Volker is being joined on the afternoon panel by Timothy Morrison, a longtime Republican congressional aide who has previously testified about a conversation between the president and Mr. Sondland in which Mr. Trump insisted that Ukraine must publicly announce investigations. | |
| But Republicans plan to focus on Mr. Morrison’s assessment of the president’s July 25 call with President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine. Mr. Morrison told lawmakers that he heard nothing inherently wrong as he listened to the call, although he was concerned that it could leak and cause political problems. | |
| Democratic lawmakers responded angrily to attacks on Lt. Col. Alexander S. Vindman, the top Ukraine expert on the National Security Council, as the White House and Republicans sought to discredit the colonel in real time during his testimony to the House Intelligence Committee. | Democratic lawmakers responded angrily to attacks on Lt. Col. Alexander S. Vindman, the top Ukraine expert on the National Security Council, as the White House and Republicans sought to discredit the colonel in real time during his testimony to the House Intelligence Committee. |
| “There’s been a lot of insinuations and there’s been a lot suggestions, maybe, that your service is somehow not to be trusted,” said Representative Sean Patrick Maloney, Democrat of New York. He accused Republicans of trying to “air out some allegations with no basis and proof, but they just want to get them out there and hope maybe some of those strands of spaghetti I guess will stick on the wall if they keep throwing them.” | |
| His angry remarks came after the official, taxpayer-funded Twitter account of the White House posted a critical quote about Colonel Vindman from Mr. Morrison, his former boss at the National Security Council. | |
| Earlier, Representative Jim Jordan of Ohio had cited that comment as well as criticism from Fiona Hill, Mr. Vindman’s former boss at the National Security Council. | Earlier, Representative Jim Jordan of Ohio had cited that comment as well as criticism from Fiona Hill, Mr. Vindman’s former boss at the National Security Council. |
| “Any idea why they have those impressions?” Mr. Jordan inquired. Colonel Vindman, who apparently came prepared for the criticism, pulled out a copy the performance evaluation Ms. Hill wrote about him in July and read aloud from it. | “Any idea why they have those impressions?” Mr. Jordan inquired. Colonel Vindman, who apparently came prepared for the criticism, pulled out a copy the performance evaluation Ms. Hill wrote about him in July and read aloud from it. |
| “Alex is a top one percent military officer and the best army officer I have worked with in my 15 years of government service,” Mr. Vindman said, quoting Ms. Hill. “He is brilliant, unflappable, and exercises excellent judgment.” | “Alex is a top one percent military officer and the best army officer I have worked with in my 15 years of government service,” Mr. Vindman said, quoting Ms. Hill. “He is brilliant, unflappable, and exercises excellent judgment.” |
| Republicans also questioned the loyalty of Colonel Vindman, an American citizen and decorated Army combat veteran who was born in Ukraine, by asking him about three instances when Oleksandr Danylyuk, the director of Ukraine’s national security council, had approached to offer him the job of defense minister in Kyiv. | Republicans also questioned the loyalty of Colonel Vindman, an American citizen and decorated Army combat veteran who was born in Ukraine, by asking him about three instances when Oleksandr Danylyuk, the director of Ukraine’s national security council, had approached to offer him the job of defense minister in Kyiv. |
| Under questioning by the committee’s Republican counsel, Colonel Vindman confirmed the offers and testified that he repeatedly declined, dismissing the idea out of hand and reporting the approaches to his superiors and to counterintelligence officials. | Under questioning by the committee’s Republican counsel, Colonel Vindman confirmed the offers and testified that he repeatedly declined, dismissing the idea out of hand and reporting the approaches to his superiors and to counterintelligence officials. |
| The line of questioning seemed to be designed, at least in part, to feed doubts about Colonel Vindman’s commitment to the United States, the subject of a wave of character attacks on him by Mr. Trump’s allies. Fox News quickly picked up on the tactic, sending out a news alert moments after Stephen Castor, the Republican lawyer, finished: “Vindman says Ukrainian official offered him the job of Ukrainian defense minister.” | |
| Mr. Maloney said he was particularly outraged by questions from a Republican lawmaker questioning why Colonel Vindman wore his Army dress uniform to the hearing. | Mr. Maloney said he was particularly outraged by questions from a Republican lawmaker questioning why Colonel Vindman wore his Army dress uniform to the hearing. |
| “That dress uniform includes a breast plate that has a combat infantryman badge on it and a purple ribbon,” Mr. Maloney said. “It seems if there is someone who should wear that uniform, it’s someone who has a breast plate on it.” | “That dress uniform includes a breast plate that has a combat infantryman badge on it and a purple ribbon,” Mr. Maloney said. “It seems if there is someone who should wear that uniform, it’s someone who has a breast plate on it.” |
| Two senior national security officials at the White House challenged Mr. Trump’s description of his call with the Ukraine president as “perfect,” testifying on Tuesday about how concerned they were as they listened in real time to Mr. Trump appealing for an investigation of Mr. Biden. | |
| Colonel Vindman testified that he was so disturbed by the call that he reported it to the council’s top lawyer. | Colonel Vindman testified that he was so disturbed by the call that he reported it to the council’s top lawyer. |
| “I couldn’t believe what I was hearing,” he said under questioning about his first thoughts when he heard Mr. Trump’s mention of investigations into Mr. Biden and an unproven theory that it was Ukraine, not Russia, that interfered in the 2016 election. “It was probably an element of shock, that maybe in certain regards, my worst fear of how our Ukraine policy could play out was playing out, and how this was likely to have significant implications for U.S. national security.” | “I couldn’t believe what I was hearing,” he said under questioning about his first thoughts when he heard Mr. Trump’s mention of investigations into Mr. Biden and an unproven theory that it was Ukraine, not Russia, that interfered in the 2016 election. “It was probably an element of shock, that maybe in certain regards, my worst fear of how our Ukraine policy could play out was playing out, and how this was likely to have significant implications for U.S. national security.” |
| Earlier, Colonel Vindman explained why he felt it was his “duty” to report his concerns to John Eisenberg, the top lawyer at the National Security Council. “It is improper for the president of the United States to demand a foreign government investigate a U.S. citizen and political opponent.” | Earlier, Colonel Vindman explained why he felt it was his “duty” to report his concerns to John Eisenberg, the top lawyer at the National Security Council. “It is improper for the president of the United States to demand a foreign government investigate a U.S. citizen and political opponent.” |
| Jennifer Williams, a national security aide to Vice President Mike Pence, said she found the president’s call unusual because it included discussion of a “domestic political matter.” | Jennifer Williams, a national security aide to Vice President Mike Pence, said she found the president’s call unusual because it included discussion of a “domestic political matter.” |
| Their testimony kicked off three days of hearings featuring nine diplomats and national security officials as Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee continue to build their case that Mr. Trump abused his power by trying to enlist Ukraine to publicly commit to investigations that would discredit Mr. Biden, a leading political rival, and other Democrats. | |
| Colonel Vindman and Ms. Williams both testified that they were never aware of any other national security officials in the United States government who supported the decision to withhold nearly $400 million in security aid for Ukraine, which both said was directed by the White House chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney. | Colonel Vindman and Ms. Williams both testified that they were never aware of any other national security officials in the United States government who supported the decision to withhold nearly $400 million in security aid for Ukraine, which both said was directed by the White House chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney. |
| Both witnesses said withholding the military assistance from Ukraine was damaging to relations between the two countries and to Ukraine’s ability to confront Russian aggression. Representative Mike Quigley of Illinois asked Colonel Vindman whether anyone else supported the decision to freeze the aid. | Both witnesses said withholding the military assistance from Ukraine was damaging to relations between the two countries and to Ukraine’s ability to confront Russian aggression. Representative Mike Quigley of Illinois asked Colonel Vindman whether anyone else supported the decision to freeze the aid. |
| “No one from the national security?” Mr. Quigley asked. | “No one from the national security?” Mr. Quigley asked. |
| “None,” Colonel Vindman said. | “None,” Colonel Vindman said. |
| “No one from the State Department?” | |
| “Correct.” | “Correct.” |
| “No one from the Department of Defense? | |
| “Correct.” | “Correct.” |
| Ms. Williams testified that Mr. Zelensky told Vice President Mike Pence during a Sept. 1 meeting that continuing to withhold the aid would indicate that United States support for Ukraine was wavering, giving Russia a boost in the ongoing conflict between the two countries. | |
| “Any signal or sign that U.S. support was wavering would be construed by Russia as potentially an opportunity for them to strengthen their own hand in Ukraine,” Ms. Williams said, relating what Mr. Zelensky told Mr. Pence. | “Any signal or sign that U.S. support was wavering would be construed by Russia as potentially an opportunity for them to strengthen their own hand in Ukraine,” Ms. Williams said, relating what Mr. Zelensky told Mr. Pence. |
| Mr. Trump offered his first response of the day to the testimony against him during a cabinet meeting at the White House. | Mr. Trump offered his first response of the day to the testimony against him during a cabinet meeting at the White House. |
| “Republicans are absolutely killing it, because it’s a big scam,” the president said. | “Republicans are absolutely killing it, because it’s a big scam,” the president said. |
| Mr. Perry, the outgoing energy secretary who has been scrutinized for his role in the Ukraine matter, opened the meeting with a prayer in which he said everyone in the room was there because they have been “ordained” to be there. | |
| The president railed anew against impeachment during the cabinet meeting, which is ostensibly about border policy and the proposed United States trade agreement with Mexico and Canada. Mr. Trump called the proceedings “a kangaroo court” headed by “little shifty Schiff,” referring to Representative Adam B. Schiff, Democrat of California and the chairman of the Intelligence Committee. He also suggested that the impeachment attempt would backfire politically on Democrats. | The president railed anew against impeachment during the cabinet meeting, which is ostensibly about border policy and the proposed United States trade agreement with Mexico and Canada. Mr. Trump called the proceedings “a kangaroo court” headed by “little shifty Schiff,” referring to Representative Adam B. Schiff, Democrat of California and the chairman of the Intelligence Committee. He also suggested that the impeachment attempt would backfire politically on Democrats. |
| This is the first time the president had been in front of the pool since leaving the White House for an unplanned visit to Walter Reed hospital on Saturday. In the Cabinet Room, he also addressed speculation that he may have visited the hospital abruptly because of heart problems, calling the media “sick.” He said he just had a routine physical. | This is the first time the president had been in front of the pool since leaving the White House for an unplanned visit to Walter Reed hospital on Saturday. In the Cabinet Room, he also addressed speculation that he may have visited the hospital abruptly because of heart problems, calling the media “sick.” He said he just had a routine physical. |
| The president also accused Speaker Nancy Pelosi of stonewalling the trade pact because of her focus on impeachment, calling her “that woman” and saying she was “incompetent.” | The president also accused Speaker Nancy Pelosi of stonewalling the trade pact because of her focus on impeachment, calling her “that woman” and saying she was “incompetent.” |
| Representative Devin Nunes of California, the top Republican on the committee, sought to turn the focus away from Mr. Trump to Mr. Biden, leading the witnesses through a series of questions intended to suggest that the former vice president had intervened in Ukraine’s domestic affairs to benefit his son, Hunter Biden, despite the lack of evidence. | Representative Devin Nunes of California, the top Republican on the committee, sought to turn the focus away from Mr. Trump to Mr. Biden, leading the witnesses through a series of questions intended to suggest that the former vice president had intervened in Ukraine’s domestic affairs to benefit his son, Hunter Biden, despite the lack of evidence. |
| Mr. Biden, as vice president, pressured Ukrainian officials to fire a prosecutor who was seen as tolerating corruption in keeping with the policy of the United States, European allies and international financial organizations at the time. But Mr. Nunes suggested that Mr. Biden was acting to benefit his son, who was on the board of Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company that had been investigated for corruption. | Mr. Biden, as vice president, pressured Ukrainian officials to fire a prosecutor who was seen as tolerating corruption in keeping with the policy of the United States, European allies and international financial organizations at the time. But Mr. Nunes suggested that Mr. Biden was acting to benefit his son, who was on the board of Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company that had been investigated for corruption. |
| “Did you know that Joe Biden called Ukrainian President Poroshenko at least three times in February 2016 after the president and owner of Burisma’s home was raided on February 2 by the state prosecutor’s office?” Mr. Nunes asked, referring to Petro O. Poroshenko, then the president. | “Did you know that Joe Biden called Ukrainian President Poroshenko at least three times in February 2016 after the president and owner of Burisma’s home was raided on February 2 by the state prosecutor’s office?” Mr. Nunes asked, referring to Petro O. Poroshenko, then the president. |
| “Not at the time,” Ms. Williams answered. She added: “I’ve become aware of that through this proceeding.” | “Not at the time,” Ms. Williams answered. She added: “I’ve become aware of that through this proceeding.” |
| Mr. Nunes asked a series of similar questions and then repeated them for Mr. Vindman. Neither witness was working on the issue at the time, so neither could offer information to about it. But Mr. Nunes used the opportunity to introduce his allegations, anyway. He also tried repeatedly to extract information from Colonel Vindman about the identity of the whistle-blower who filed a complaint about Mr. Trump’s dealings with Ukraine, drawing objections from the colonel’s lawyer. | Mr. Nunes asked a series of similar questions and then repeated them for Mr. Vindman. Neither witness was working on the issue at the time, so neither could offer information to about it. But Mr. Nunes used the opportunity to introduce his allegations, anyway. He also tried repeatedly to extract information from Colonel Vindman about the identity of the whistle-blower who filed a complaint about Mr. Trump’s dealings with Ukraine, drawing objections from the colonel’s lawyer. |
| At one point, things turned testy when Mr. Nunes addressed Colonel Vindman as “Mr. Vindman.” | At one point, things turned testy when Mr. Nunes addressed Colonel Vindman as “Mr. Vindman.” |
| “Ranking member, it’s Lieutenant Colonel Vindman, please,” he shot back. | “Ranking member, it’s Lieutenant Colonel Vindman, please,” he shot back. |
| Colonel Vindman used his opening statement before impeachment investigators to denounce the attacks leveled by Mr. Trump and his allies against those who have appeared, or are scheduled to testify, in the impeachment inquiry. | |
| “The vile character attacks on these distinguished and honorable public servants is reprehensible,” Colonel Vindman said. | “The vile character attacks on these distinguished and honorable public servants is reprehensible,” Colonel Vindman said. |
| His remarks came after Mr. Trump has lashed out repeatedly against witnesses in the impeachment inquiry, disparaging their records and calling them “Never Trumpers” who are trying to take him down. Amid the threats, the Army has been assessing potential security threats to Colonel Vindman and his brother Yevgeny, who also works at the National Security Council. There have also been discussions about moving the Vindmans and their families on to a military base for their protection, according to a person with knowledge of the discussions. | His remarks came after Mr. Trump has lashed out repeatedly against witnesses in the impeachment inquiry, disparaging their records and calling them “Never Trumpers” who are trying to take him down. Amid the threats, the Army has been assessing potential security threats to Colonel Vindman and his brother Yevgeny, who also works at the National Security Council. There have also been discussions about moving the Vindmans and their families on to a military base for their protection, according to a person with knowledge of the discussions. |
| The colonel, who came to the United States as a refugee at the age of 3, referred to his family’s history in Ukraine, a former Soviet republic, noting that in Russia, “offering public testimony involving the president would surely cost me my life.” | The colonel, who came to the United States as a refugee at the age of 3, referred to his family’s history in Ukraine, a former Soviet republic, noting that in Russia, “offering public testimony involving the president would surely cost me my life.” |
| “Dad, my sitting here today, in the U.S. Capitol talking to our elected officials, is proof that you made the right decision 40 years ago to leave the Soviet Union and come here to the United States of America in search of a better life for our family,” Colonel Vindman said. “Do not worry, I will be fine for telling the truth.” | “Dad, my sitting here today, in the U.S. Capitol talking to our elected officials, is proof that you made the right decision 40 years ago to leave the Soviet Union and come here to the United States of America in search of a better life for our family,” Colonel Vindman said. “Do not worry, I will be fine for telling the truth.” |