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Row over Labour's 'NHS for sale' claim | Row over Labour's 'NHS for sale' claim |
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A row has broken out after Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn claimed he had "proof" the NHS was at risk under a post-Brexit trade deal with the US. | A row has broken out after Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn claimed he had "proof" the NHS was at risk under a post-Brexit trade deal with the US. |
Mr Corbyn said he had a 451-page dossier showing initial talks had taken place, proving the NHS was "for sale". | Mr Corbyn said he had a 451-page dossier showing initial talks had taken place, proving the NHS was "for sale". |
But Prime Minister Boris Johnson said the claims were "nonsense" and the NHS would not be part of formal talks. | But Prime Minister Boris Johnson said the claims were "nonsense" and the NHS would not be part of formal talks. |
The Tory manifesto explicitly states neither the price paid for drugs nor NHS services will be "on the table". | The Tory manifesto explicitly states neither the price paid for drugs nor NHS services will be "on the table". |
Meanwhile the SNP has published its manifesto which includes a pledge to "stop the NHS becoming a lever in any international trade deal" through its NHS Protection Act. | Meanwhile the SNP has published its manifesto which includes a pledge to "stop the NHS becoming a lever in any international trade deal" through its NHS Protection Act. |
What evidence has Labour obtained? | What evidence has Labour obtained? |
Labour obtained uncensored government documents covering six rounds of talks between US and UK officials in Washington and London between July 2017 and July 2019. | Labour obtained uncensored government documents covering six rounds of talks between US and UK officials in Washington and London between July 2017 and July 2019. |
They are all preparatory meetings ahead of formal trade talks. | They are all preparatory meetings ahead of formal trade talks. |
These documents provide more detail on the meetings Channel 4's Dispatches programme reported on last month. | These documents provide more detail on the meetings Channel 4's Dispatches programme reported on last month. |
They show the US is interested in discussing drug pricing - mainly, extending patents that stop cheaper generic medicines being used. | They show the US is interested in discussing drug pricing - mainly, extending patents that stop cheaper generic medicines being used. |
One document quotes a UK official saying the talks are helpful in determining the areas the US may want to discuss, while acknowledging the UK would have objections. | One document quotes a UK official saying the talks are helpful in determining the areas the US may want to discuss, while acknowledging the UK would have objections. |
As well as the pharmaceutical industry, the talks also covered other areas including agriculture and climate change. | As well as the pharmaceutical industry, the talks also covered other areas including agriculture and climate change. |
The documents make reference to the US wanting "total market access" as a starting point for trade talks generally - only excluding areas that are specifically placed on a so-called negative list. | The documents make reference to the US wanting "total market access" as a starting point for trade talks generally - only excluding areas that are specifically placed on a so-called negative list. |
There is no evidence in the documents that the UK has agreed to this. | There is no evidence in the documents that the UK has agreed to this. |
Is this proof the NHS is up for sale? | Is this proof the NHS is up for sale? |
Jeremy Corbyn doesn't provide evidence ministers have agreed the health service should be part of a trade deal with US. | Jeremy Corbyn doesn't provide evidence ministers have agreed the health service should be part of a trade deal with US. |
But details of discussions about the demands of US pharmaceutical companies will still be motivating for Labour voters worried about the NHS. | But details of discussions about the demands of US pharmaceutical companies will still be motivating for Labour voters worried about the NHS. |
"Not for sale," has been the biggest mantra at Labour events, even though the Tories have always furiously denied the NHS is in any way "up for sale". | "Not for sale," has been the biggest mantra at Labour events, even though the Tories have always furiously denied the NHS is in any way "up for sale". |
It's clear US drug companies want access to UK markets - Labour suggests the UK has agreed they could extend the patents on some medicines, which could cost the NHS more, for example. | It's clear US drug companies want access to UK markets - Labour suggests the UK has agreed they could extend the patents on some medicines, which could cost the NHS more, for example. |
But whether any UK government would ever do a deal that made medicines much more expensive for the NHS, and therefore the taxpayer, which would be massively costly for the government and probably prove deeply unpopular, is a big political question. | But whether any UK government would ever do a deal that made medicines much more expensive for the NHS, and therefore the taxpayer, which would be massively costly for the government and probably prove deeply unpopular, is a big political question. |
The Conservative manifesto says the NHS will not be on the table in post-Brexit trade talks. | |
The NHS for sale - explained | |
The claim the NHS would form part of a free-trade deal with the US under the Tories has been one of the Labour's key attack lines in the general election campaign. | The claim the NHS would form part of a free-trade deal with the US under the Tories has been one of the Labour's key attack lines in the general election campaign. |
Labour has warned it could mean rising drug prices and NHS services being contracted out to US health companies. | |
Currently, the NHS is able to use its bargaining power as a centralised health system to negotiate low prices for drugs. | |
It also has a strong track record in resisting attempts to lengthen patents on drugs, to allow cheaper generics to be used more quickly than they are in the US. | |
The US currently pays two and a half times more for drugs than the NHS does. | |
Meanwhile, about 7% of the NHS budget in England goes on private companies that provide NHS services, mainly non-emergency treatments such as knee and hip replacements and some community services. | |
And Labour has warned this market could be extended further under the Tories. | |
The war of words | |
Mr Corbyn said the documents showed talks were at a "very advanced stage" and gave the lie to Boris Johnson's claims the NHS would not be part of any trade talks. | Mr Corbyn said the documents showed talks were at a "very advanced stage" and gave the lie to Boris Johnson's claims the NHS would not be part of any trade talks. |
"The uncensored documents leave Boris Johnson's denials in absolute tatters," he told a news conference in London. | "The uncensored documents leave Boris Johnson's denials in absolute tatters," he told a news conference in London. |
"We have now got evidence that under Boris Johnson the NHS is on the table and will be up for sale. | "We have now got evidence that under Boris Johnson the NHS is on the table and will be up for sale. |
"He tried to cover it up in a secret agenda and today it has been exposed." | "He tried to cover it up in a secret agenda and today it has been exposed." |
Reacting to Mr Corbyn's latest claims, International Trade Secretary Liz Truss said it was simply a stunt. | Reacting to Mr Corbyn's latest claims, International Trade Secretary Liz Truss said it was simply a stunt. |
"Jeremy Corbyn is getting desperate and is out and out lying about what the documents contain. | "Jeremy Corbyn is getting desperate and is out and out lying about what the documents contain. |
"People should not believe what he says." | "People should not believe what he says." |
Mr Johnson, meanwhile, said the claims were "total nonsense". | Mr Johnson, meanwhile, said the claims were "total nonsense". |
"This is continually brought up by the Labour Party as a diversionary tactic from the difficulties they are encountering," he said. | "This is continually brought up by the Labour Party as a diversionary tactic from the difficulties they are encountering," he said. |
And he could give an "absolute cast iron guarantee" the NHS would not be on the table. | And he could give an "absolute cast iron guarantee" the NHS would not be on the table. |
He also pointed out the documents had been available online for two months. | He also pointed out the documents had been available online for two months. |