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| McDonnell says he takes full responsibility for Labour's defeat – politics live | McDonnell says he takes full responsibility for Labour's defeat – politics live |
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| Follow all the latest developments in the aftermath of Thursday’s election | Follow all the latest developments in the aftermath of Thursday’s election |
| The treasury minister, Rishi Sunak, was asked by Andrew Marr this morning about reports in the Sunday Times and Sunday Telegraph that the government plans to make sweeping changes to reform the civil service. | |
| He replied: | |
| Pressed on the matter, Sunak did not answer directly. | |
| He was also asked if non-payment of the BBC licence fee should be decriminalised (the Sunday Telegraph reported that Boris Johnson is planning to do just that), Sunak said: | |
| I missed the beginning of the John McDonnell interview on Marr as I was tuned into Sophy Ridge on Sky but he apologised for his role in the election defeat. | I missed the beginning of the John McDonnell interview on Marr as I was tuned into Sophy Ridge on Sky but he apologised for his role in the election defeat. |
| Nicola Sturgeon insisted on the Andrew Marr show that Boris Johnson’s position on continuing to deny the SNP a second independence referendum is wholly undemocratic. | Nicola Sturgeon insisted on the Andrew Marr show that Boris Johnson’s position on continuing to deny the SNP a second independence referendum is wholly undemocratic. |
| Describing it as a “subversion of democracy” that the Tories were “raging against the reality” of the election result in Scotland, which saw the SNP win 48 out of 59 seats while the Scottish Tories’ MPs were reduced by half, she said: | Describing it as a “subversion of democracy” that the Tories were “raging against the reality” of the election result in Scotland, which saw the SNP win 48 out of 59 seats while the Scottish Tories’ MPs were reduced by half, she said: |
| Asked what she intended to do if Johnson continued to refuse to granT the s30 order to hold a legal referendum, she repeated her pledge that she would not want to hold an illegal Catalan-style vote, but added: | Asked what she intended to do if Johnson continued to refuse to granT the s30 order to hold a legal referendum, she repeated her pledge that she would not want to hold an illegal Catalan-style vote, but added: |
| Corbyn was undoubtedly part of the problem but it is too simplistic to say it was all about one man or one issue, says Nandy. | Corbyn was undoubtedly part of the problem but it is too simplistic to say it was all about one man or one issue, says Nandy. |
| She says many people liked what they put forward in the manifesto. | She says many people liked what they put forward in the manifesto. |
| Marr asks Nandy if she will vote for the withdrawal bill. | Marr asks Nandy if she will vote for the withdrawal bill. |
| She says she will vote for it on the basis that Boris Johnson and his team are willing to consider a customs union at the committee stage. But Nandy says she doubts that will be the case and thinks the election campaign suggests the Tories will go for a hard Brexit. If that’s the case, Nandy will not vote for it, she says. | She says she will vote for it on the basis that Boris Johnson and his team are willing to consider a customs union at the committee stage. But Nandy says she doubts that will be the case and thinks the election campaign suggests the Tories will go for a hard Brexit. If that’s the case, Nandy will not vote for it, she says. |
| Here’s Labour MP for Wigan Lisa Nandy talking to Marr now. She is asked straightaway if she will stand as leader. | Here’s Labour MP for Wigan Lisa Nandy talking to Marr now. She is asked straightaway if she will stand as leader. |
| She adds that the party needs to take a look at how to take that long, hard path to power. | She adds that the party needs to take a look at how to take that long, hard path to power. |
| Nandy says regional and constituency offices have very little power with the HQ in London. | Nandy says regional and constituency offices have very little power with the HQ in London. |
| The trouble is unless we tackle structural problems we won’t be able to hear what people are saying outside London and address their concerns. | The trouble is unless we tackle structural problems we won’t be able to hear what people are saying outside London and address their concerns. |
| She says there is no reason for the party HQ being in London. | She says there is no reason for the party HQ being in London. |
| She also says party conferences should be held in towns and not just cities. | She also says party conferences should be held in towns and not just cities. |
| Marr asks McDonnell when Corbyn will be gone by. | Marr asks McDonnell when Corbyn will be gone by. |
| He replies 8-10 weeks, sometime in the New Year. | He replies 8-10 weeks, sometime in the New Year. |
| Are you and Corbyn hanging on to ensure your choice - Rebecca Long-Bailey - gets in, Marr asks? | Are you and Corbyn hanging on to ensure your choice - Rebecca Long-Bailey - gets in, Marr asks? |
| McDonnell insists they’re not able to do that but adds: “Becky is brilliant.” He also name checks Angela Rayner. | McDonnell insists they’re not able to do that but adds: “Becky is brilliant.” He also name checks Angela Rayner. |
| Could he stomach Jess Phillips, an ardent critic of Corbyn, as leader? | Could he stomach Jess Phillips, an ardent critic of Corbyn, as leader? |
| A couple of times, Marr suggests Lisa Nandy, who fits McDonnell’s profile as a non-Metropolitan, northern, woman, but McDonnell does not directly reply. | A couple of times, Marr suggests Lisa Nandy, who fits McDonnell’s profile as a non-Metropolitan, northern, woman, but McDonnell does not directly reply. |
| Over on BBC One, the shadow chancellor, John McDonnell is speaking to Andrew Marr. | Over on BBC One, the shadow chancellor, John McDonnell is speaking to Andrew Marr. |
| Marr says Corbyn went down very, very badly on the doorstep. | Marr says Corbyn went down very, very badly on the doorstep. |
| McDonnell tells Marr: “If anyone is to blame it is me, full stop.” He also says it was Brexit that did it but also that “the media did a job on Jeremy for four years”. | McDonnell tells Marr: “If anyone is to blame it is me, full stop.” He also says it was Brexit that did it but also that “the media did a job on Jeremy for four years”. |
| He says that when Corbyn had the opportunities on broadcast media he was seen as the most trustworthy leader. | He says that when Corbyn had the opportunities on broadcast media he was seen as the most trustworthy leader. |
| Marr says his leadership poll ratings were “catastrophic”. | Marr says his leadership poll ratings were “catastrophic”. |
| McDonnell says Boris Johnson is a “proven liar”, while Corbyn is know for his honesty and principles. | McDonnell says Boris Johnson is a “proven liar”, while Corbyn is know for his honesty and principles. |
| He refers to a study which found that 88% of Tory ads were misleading compared with 0% of Labour’s. | He refers to a study which found that 88% of Tory ads were misleading compared with 0% of Labour’s. |
| McDonnell says Corbyn was targeted as is anyone who challenges the establishment. | McDonnell says Corbyn was targeted as is anyone who challenges the establishment. |
| He says he does take responsibility for the defeat and one of the things he takes responsibility for is underestimating the extent of the media attack. | He says he does take responsibility for the defeat and one of the things he takes responsibility for is underestimating the extent of the media attack. |
| Iain McNicol, former Labour general secretary, tells Sophy Ridge, that not enough resources were put into holding onto Labour seats. | Iain McNicol, former Labour general secretary, tells Sophy Ridge, that not enough resources were put into holding onto Labour seats. |
| He also says Jeremy Corbyn was a negative factor on the doorstep. | He also says Jeremy Corbyn was a negative factor on the doorstep. |
| McNicol says Corbyn should stand down now and there should be a caretaker leader such as Harriet Harman, Hilary Benn or Yvette Cooper. | McNicol says Corbyn should stand down now and there should be a caretaker leader such as Harriet Harman, Hilary Benn or Yvette Cooper. |
| McNicol is asked if he takes any responsibility for the failure to tackle antisemitism as John McDonnell said it dated back to his stewardship. | McNicol is asked if he takes any responsibility for the failure to tackle antisemitism as John McDonnell said it dated back to his stewardship. |
| McNicol says he does but ultimately Corbyn was leader and it “started and rose under Jeremy Corbyn”. | McNicol says he does but ultimately Corbyn was leader and it “started and rose under Jeremy Corbyn”. |
| If you refresh this page, you will see that I have added some video clips from some of this morning’s interviews. Please also note that comments are now open. | If you refresh this page, you will see that I have added some video clips from some of this morning’s interviews. Please also note that comments are now open. |
| Ridge asks Burgon what the biggest mistake was? | Ridge asks Burgon what the biggest mistake was? |
| He says time is need to analyse that but it was perhaps underestimating the desire of people who vote to leave to exit the EU. | He says time is need to analyse that but it was perhaps underestimating the desire of people who vote to leave to exit the EU. |
| Ridge says Jeremy Corbyn came up over and over on the doorstep (in a negative way). | Ridge says Jeremy Corbyn came up over and over on the doorstep (in a negative way). |
| Burgon says people repeated headlines the Sun and the Daily Mail published. He says that when he campaigned on the doorstep for Tony Blair, Gordon Brown and Ed Miliband, concerns were also raised on the doorstep. | Burgon says people repeated headlines the Sun and the Daily Mail published. He says that when he campaigned on the doorstep for Tony Blair, Gordon Brown and Ed Miliband, concerns were also raised on the doorstep. |
| Burgon says on the doorstep people said Corbyn was racist and a terrorist sympathiser but says these were lies that were the product of right wing newspapers. | Burgon says on the doorstep people said Corbyn was racist and a terrorist sympathiser but says these were lies that were the product of right wing newspapers. |
| Ridge suggests he is treating voters as stupid, implying they are unable to think for themselves. | Ridge suggests he is treating voters as stupid, implying they are unable to think for themselves. |
| Will Burgon run for the leadership? | Will Burgon run for the leadership? |
| He says he would like to see Rebecca Long-Bailey as leader because she understands Northern seats and could help win back seats Labour has lost. | He says he would like to see Rebecca Long-Bailey as leader because she understands Northern seats and could help win back seats Labour has lost. |
| Burgon says he is considering running as deputy leader. But he says the focus for now should be the people “missing out” because we haven’t got a Labour government. | Burgon says he is considering running as deputy leader. But he says the focus for now should be the people “missing out” because we haven’t got a Labour government. |