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Why are we 'milking' crabs for a coronavirus vaccine? | Why are we 'milking' crabs for a coronavirus vaccine? |
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They've got 10 eyes, have existed for more than 300 million years - and we use their pale blue blood to keep us all safe. | |
No, it's not science fiction, just plain old science. We're talking about the horseshoe crab. | No, it's not science fiction, just plain old science. We're talking about the horseshoe crab. |
For decades we've needed them, and their blood, to help us discover human medicines. | For decades we've needed them, and their blood, to help us discover human medicines. |
They're being used today to help scientists research a potential coronavirus vaccine. | They're being used today to help scientists research a potential coronavirus vaccine. |
But there are questions about how many are still around, how the process affects the animals and some campaigners want this "milking" of horseshoe crabs stopped. | But there are questions about how many are still around, how the process affects the animals and some campaigners want this "milking" of horseshoe crabs stopped. |
How do they help? | How do they help? |
These "living fossils" matter because their blood helps make sure there are no dangerous bacteria in newly created drugs - the sort of bacteria that can kill people even in tiny amounts. | These "living fossils" matter because their blood helps make sure there are no dangerous bacteria in newly created drugs - the sort of bacteria that can kill people even in tiny amounts. |
An extract in the crab's blood cells chemically reacts to harmful stuff and scientists use it to test if new medicines are safe. | An extract in the crab's blood cells chemically reacts to harmful stuff and scientists use it to test if new medicines are safe. |
And horseshoe crab blood is the only thing humans can find, anywhere on earth, that does this. | And horseshoe crab blood is the only thing humans can find, anywhere on earth, that does this. |
Each year hundreds of thousands are caught and taken to labs in America, where some of their blood's removed from a vein near their heart. | Each year hundreds of thousands are caught and taken to labs in America, where some of their blood's removed from a vein near their heart. |
Then they're released back into the wild. | Then they're released back into the wild. |
'No one really knows the impact it has' | 'No one really knows the impact it has' |
Initially, experts reckoned nearly all crabs survived the unlikely donation. | Initially, experts reckoned nearly all crabs survived the unlikely donation. |
But in recent years, it's been estimated that anything up to 30% die from it. | |
Oher studies suggest female crabs that go through it are less likely to mate afterwards. | |
All of that, say wildlife campaigners, causes problems. | All of that, say wildlife campaigners, causes problems. |
"Right now, they bleed about half a million crabs," says Dr Barbara Brummer, who's in charge of a team working on conserving nature for the state of New Jersey - where a lot in America are caught. | "Right now, they bleed about half a million crabs," says Dr Barbara Brummer, who's in charge of a team working on conserving nature for the state of New Jersey - where a lot in America are caught. |
She told BBC Radio 4's Today programme that "no-one really knows the impact the withdrawal of blood has on the life of that crab" when they're put back alive. | She told BBC Radio 4's Today programme that "no-one really knows the impact the withdrawal of blood has on the life of that crab" when they're put back alive. |
American horseshoe crabs are now close to officially being seen as an endangered species. | American horseshoe crabs are now close to officially being seen as an endangered species. |
But some of the big companies who make drugs point to stats that suggest numbers have stayed roughly the same for a few years now. | But some of the big companies who make drugs point to stats that suggest numbers have stayed roughly the same for a few years now. |
'We can move away from this natural source' | 'We can move away from this natural source' |
A lot of research has been done into creating a man-made substance that could replace the blood. | A lot of research has been done into creating a man-made substance that could replace the blood. |
And in 2016 - bingo. | And in 2016 - bingo. |
Scientists came up with an alternative which was given the okay to be used in Europe. Some drug companies in the US joined in as well. | Scientists came up with an alternative which was given the okay to be used in Europe. Some drug companies in the US joined in as well. |
So why are we talking about this now? | So why are we talking about this now? |
Because last month, the organisation that decides on what makes drugs safe in America said it can't prove the alternative works well enough. | Because last month, the organisation that decides on what makes drugs safe in America said it can't prove the alternative works well enough. |
Any companies wanting to sell medicines in the States have been told they need to keep using crab blood for testing. | Any companies wanting to sell medicines in the States have been told they need to keep using crab blood for testing. |
That means anyone who might come up with a coronavirus vaccine will need to check it out it the old way - if they want to be able to get it to millions of Americans. | That means anyone who might come up with a coronavirus vaccine will need to check it out it the old way - if they want to be able to get it to millions of Americans. |
Dr Barbara says she's pushing for them to take another look - since the other option's being used elsewhere. | Dr Barbara says she's pushing for them to take another look - since the other option's being used elsewhere. |
"It's so we can move away from relying on this natural source," she says. | "It's so we can move away from relying on this natural source," she says. |
Some drugs companies say they can meet the demand for a Covid-19 vaccine without having to take blood from many more crabs than normal. | Some drugs companies say they can meet the demand for a Covid-19 vaccine without having to take blood from many more crabs than normal. |
But Dr Brummer says there are "at least 30 companies working on a vaccine" and "every one of them has to go through this testing. | But Dr Brummer says there are "at least 30 companies working on a vaccine" and "every one of them has to go through this testing. |
"So my concern is about the population of the horseshoe crabs - because they're such a key part of the eco system." | "So my concern is about the population of the horseshoe crabs - because they're such a key part of the eco system." |
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