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| Presidential debate reaction: Trump condemned over failure to criticise far-right group – live | |
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| Biden and Trump both campaigning in swing states today in aftermath of bitter and chaotic debate | Biden and Trump both campaigning in swing states today in aftermath of bitter and chaotic debate |
| Joe Biden is the first of the two candidates to put out some social media reaction to the debate this morning, and he has gone on the attack over Trump’s comments – or lack of them – about the Proud Boys and white supremacists. | |
| “There’s no other way to put it: the President of the United States refused to disavow white supremacists on the debate stage last night” tweeted the Democratic nominee for president. | |
| The video Biden posted features the audio clip of moderator Chris Wallace challenging the president to “condemn white supremacists and militia groups” over images which feature racist white supremacist rallies. Also pictures during the video are Heather Heyer, who was killed when a white supremacist deliberately drove his car into a crowd of peaceful counter-protesters in Charlottesville, Virginia, and Kyle Rittenhouse, who has been charged with killing two people in Kenosha, Wisconsin. | |
| Here’s a little bit more from me on the background to the Proud Boys. | |
| Frank Bruni is in the New York Times this morning, floating the idea that Joe Biden should not accept the format of the debates, now that he’s seen how Donald Trump applies the rules. Bruni says Biden should refuse to debate the president again, writing: | Frank Bruni is in the New York Times this morning, floating the idea that Joe Biden should not accept the format of the debates, now that he’s seen how Donald Trump applies the rules. Bruni says Biden should refuse to debate the president again, writing: |
| Bruni’s message to Biden is “You showed your willingness. You showed up. But another of these fiascos is beneath you.” | Bruni’s message to Biden is “You showed your willingness. You showed up. But another of these fiascos is beneath you.” |
| Read it here: New York Times – After that fiasco, Biden should refuse to debate Trump again | Read it here: New York Times – After that fiasco, Biden should refuse to debate Trump again |
| “Trump basically said to go fuck them up! This makes me so happy” | “Trump basically said to go fuck them up! This makes me so happy” |
| That was the reaction of one Proud Boys organiser on social media network Parler to the debate exchange last night where Donald Trump was challenged to condemn the far-right white supremacist group the Proud Boys, and did not do so. The ‘them’ in the message being Antifa. | That was the reaction of one Proud Boys organiser on social media network Parler to the debate exchange last night where Donald Trump was challenged to condemn the far-right white supremacist group the Proud Boys, and did not do so. The ‘them’ in the message being Antifa. |
| Rather than condemn them, he told them to “Stand back… stand by”. The group have already been spreading memes online incorporating the president’s phrase into their logo. | |
| Here’s how those comments came out during the event: | Here’s how those comments came out during the event: |
| And here’s our full report: Donald Trump refuses to condemn white supremacists at presidential debate | And here’s our full report: Donald Trump refuses to condemn white supremacists at presidential debate |
| If you fancy something to listen to, Jonathan Freedland and Guardian columnist Richard Wolffe are here discussing the highlights and lowlights of the first presidential election debate of 2020. There’s maybe more lowlights than highlights. | If you fancy something to listen to, Jonathan Freedland and Guardian columnist Richard Wolffe are here discussing the highlights and lowlights of the first presidential election debate of 2020. There’s maybe more lowlights than highlights. |
| Presidential debates can often be characterised as generating more heat than light, and last night was definitely in that zone. Daniel Strauss in Washington has picked out these five key takeaways for us though: | Presidential debates can often be characterised as generating more heat than light, and last night was definitely in that zone. Daniel Strauss in Washington has picked out these five key takeaways for us though: |
| The debate was a mess, largely of Trump’s making – moderator Chris Wallace of Fox News was unable to rein in the candidates and that meant Donald Trump was mostly free to interrupt, make false claims, rant and violate the previously agreed structure and rules of the debate. | The debate was a mess, largely of Trump’s making – moderator Chris Wallace of Fox News was unable to rein in the candidates and that meant Donald Trump was mostly free to interrupt, make false claims, rant and violate the previously agreed structure and rules of the debate. |
| When asked if he would denounce groups like the Proud Boys and other white supremacy organizations, Trump refused to do it. | When asked if he would denounce groups like the Proud Boys and other white supremacy organizations, Trump refused to do it. |
| It got very personal – Biden was clearly exasperated and struggling to keep his cool. “Will you shut up man?” Biden said at one point as Trump repeatedly tried to speak over him. | It got very personal – Biden was clearly exasperated and struggling to keep his cool. “Will you shut up man?” Biden said at one point as Trump repeatedly tried to speak over him. |
| There were non-answers on policy questions – Trump was pressed on what his plan is to replace Obamacare (Affordable Care Act), Biden didn’t give a definitive answer on whether he supported calls to add seats to the supreme court. | There were non-answers on policy questions – Trump was pressed on what his plan is to replace Obamacare (Affordable Care Act), Biden didn’t give a definitive answer on whether he supported calls to add seats to the supreme court. |
| Biden wanted to talk to the American people, Trump wanted to talk to his base. | Biden wanted to talk to the American people, Trump wanted to talk to his base. |
| Read it here: A mess of Trump’s making: key takeaways from the first presidential debate | Read it here: A mess of Trump’s making: key takeaways from the first presidential debate |
| Joe Biden bought a strong social media game ahead of the debate last night, mocking the accusations from the Trump camp that he might be wearing a secret earpiece or be taking performance enhancing drugs. | Joe Biden bought a strong social media game ahead of the debate last night, mocking the accusations from the Trump camp that he might be wearing a secret earpiece or be taking performance enhancing drugs. |
| Given the level of interruptions directed at him by the president, however, he might have actually benefitted from some ear plugs. Our video wrap gives you a flavour of just how contentious last night’s debate got. | Given the level of interruptions directed at him by the president, however, he might have actually benefitted from some ear plugs. Our video wrap gives you a flavour of just how contentious last night’s debate got. |
| It’s the morning after the debate night before. Donald Trump needed to land some blows, Joe Biden needed to project being calm and not fluff his lines. Somewhat predictably, both sides this morning are claiming that their man won the day. | It’s the morning after the debate night before. Donald Trump needed to land some blows, Joe Biden needed to project being calm and not fluff his lines. Somewhat predictably, both sides this morning are claiming that their man won the day. |
| Last night saw a chaotic TV debate during which Donald Trump repeatedly hectored, insulted and interrupted Joe Biden. | Last night saw a chaotic TV debate during which Donald Trump repeatedly hectored, insulted and interrupted Joe Biden. |
| Trump refused to condemn white supremacist group the Proud Boys, telling the far-right group often associated with violent protests to ‘stand back and stand by’, in a performance littered with false and exaggerated claims from the president. | Trump refused to condemn white supremacist group the Proud Boys, telling the far-right group often associated with violent protests to ‘stand back and stand by’, in a performance littered with false and exaggerated claims from the president. |
| Biden at one point lost his patience and snapped: “Will you shut up, man? This is so unpresidential”. He went on to call the president a clown, a liar and a racist. | Biden at one point lost his patience and snapped: “Will you shut up, man? This is so unpresidential”. He went on to call the president a clown, a liar and a racist. |
| Moderator Chris Wallace of Fox News struggled to keep a check on proceedings, widely described as the worst presidential debate of all time – with our David Smith describing the event as a national humiliation. | Moderator Chris Wallace of Fox News struggled to keep a check on proceedings, widely described as the worst presidential debate of all time – with our David Smith describing the event as a national humiliation. |
| Prior to the debate both Joe Biden and Kamala Harris released their most recent tax records. They’d paid more than $750. | Prior to the debate both Joe Biden and Kamala Harris released their most recent tax records. They’d paid more than $750. |
| Away from the debate, we are expecting the release of the recordings of the grand jury proceedings in the Breonna Taylor case today. | Away from the debate, we are expecting the release of the recordings of the grand jury proceedings in the Breonna Taylor case today. |
| Yesterday there were 43,355 new coronavirus cases and 918 new Covid deaths reported in the US. | Yesterday there were 43,355 new coronavirus cases and 918 new Covid deaths reported in the US. |
| What do you do the day after a debate? Joe Biden is on a train tour today, making stops in battleground states Ohio and Pennsylvania. The president will be campaigning with a rally this evening in Duluth, Minnesota. | What do you do the day after a debate? Joe Biden is on a train tour today, making stops in battleground states Ohio and Pennsylvania. The president will be campaigning with a rally this evening in Duluth, Minnesota. |
| I’m Martin Belam, and you can get in touch with me at martin.belam@theguardian.com. | I’m Martin Belam, and you can get in touch with me at martin.belam@theguardian.com. |