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Doubt over German gunman warning Doubt over German gunman warning
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German police are investigating reports that an internet warning said to be from a youth who later carried out a school gun attack may have been fake. German police say an internet warning which appeared to be from a youth who later carried out a deadly firearms attack on a school may have been fake.
The message was originally believed to have been posted by gunman Tim Kretschmer six hours before he killed 15 people in the town of Winnenden. The message was originally believed to have been posted by Tim Kretschmer six hours before he killed 15 people in the towns of Winnenden and Wendlingen.
But police told the BBC they had been contacted by internet users and officials who doubted its origins. But police later told the BBC they had been contacted by internet users and officials who doubted its origins.
They have filed a request for access to the website's US-based server.They have filed a request for access to the website's US-based server.
Local police spokesman Klaus Hinderer told the BBC they had been alerted to a possible problem with the message by internet users and official sources on Thursday afternoon.Local police spokesman Klaus Hinderer told the BBC they had been alerted to a possible problem with the message by internet users and official sources on Thursday afternoon.
Regional police and Stuttgart prosecutors later released a statement confirming those concerns, saying that "doubts arose about the veracity of the internet chat".
The internet warning is revealedThe internet warning is revealed
He said they could not yet confirm whether or not the message had been a fake, but that they were investigating. Investigators said it appeared that Kretschmer's computer had not been used to send the message in question.
The German internet site on which the message was alleged to have been posted has been temporarily shut down.The German internet site on which the message was alleged to have been posted has been temporarily shut down.
As its servers are based in the US, German police have filed an official request through Interpol to obtain permission to recover information stored on them. It has been replaced by a message apparently from the website hosts saying: "No killing spree was announced here.
"We don't know what exactly the authorities claim to have found on the perpetrator's PC. Maybe he visited the site, but he definitely didn't write the post that went through the news, because that one never existed."
As the website's servers are based in the US, German police have filed an official request through Interpol to obtain permission to recover information stored on them.
Kretschmer killed 12 people in the school and three in the nearby town of Wendlingen before taking his own life.Kretschmer killed 12 people in the school and three in the nearby town of Wendlingen before taking his own life.
He shot himself after a shoot-out with police in a nearby town.He shot himself after a shoot-out with police in a nearby town.
'Had enough''Had enough'
At a news conference earlier on Thursday, Baden-Wurttemberg's Interior Minister Heribert Rech had read out the message purportedly posted by Kretschmer.
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At a news conference earlier on Thursday, Baden-Wurttemberg's Interior Minister Heribert Rech had read out the message.
"I've had enough. I'm fed up with this horrid life... Always the same," it read."I've had enough. I'm fed up with this horrid life... Always the same," it read.
"People are laughing at me... No-one sees my potential... I am scared, I have weapons here, and I will go to my former school tomorrow and then I will really do a grilling.""People are laughing at me... No-one sees my potential... I am scared, I have weapons here, and I will go to my former school tomorrow and then I will really do a grilling."
The message then continued: "Possibly I get away, so keep your ears open, you will hear from me tomorrow. Just remember the name of the place, Winnenden."The message then continued: "Possibly I get away, so keep your ears open, you will hear from me tomorrow. Just remember the name of the place, Winnenden."
Mr Rech said a German man alerted police about the internet warning after the school shooting. Mr Rech said a German man had alerted police about the internet warning after the school shooting.
The man said his teenage son told him about the warning only after seeing the news reports. He had not previously taken the threat seriously, responding to Kretschmer's post with "LOL", the chatroom shorthand for "laugh out loud". The man said his teenage son had told him about the warning only after seeing the news reports. He had not previously taken the threat seriously, responding to Kretschmer's post with "LOL", the chatroom shorthand for "laugh out loud".
TributesTributes
In pictures: German mourningHow school shooting unfolded
Flags were flying at half-mast across Germany on Thursday as a mark of respect for the victims of the shootings.Flags were flying at half-mast across Germany on Thursday as a mark of respect for the victims of the shootings.
In pictures: German mourningHow school shooting unfolded
Students and local people have also been gathering at the Albertville secondary school, where nine students and three teachers were killed.Students and local people have also been gathering at the Albertville secondary school, where nine students and three teachers were killed.
Many laid flowers, candles, CDs or letters as tributes to those who died.Many laid flowers, candles, CDs or letters as tributes to those who died.
One man held a sign saying: "God, where were you?"One man held a sign saying: "God, where were you?"
"I don't know if I can stay at this school," said student Christin Pluengel. "Every time you enter, the memories come back.""I don't know if I can stay at this school," said student Christin Pluengel. "Every time you enter, the memories come back."
A counselling centre has been set up near to school to help people come to terms with the killings.A counselling centre has been set up near to school to help people come to terms with the killings.
TIM KRETSCHMER Left Albertville school last year after passing examsOfficials said he was an ordinary pupil who had received good reports from schoolGerman media reported he had begun an apprenticeshipLived in the village of LeutenbachA keen table-tennis player, who aspired to become professional Attack raises gun-law questionsBoy was 'arrogant, not aggressive'Profile: Tim Kretschmer Officials said Kretschmer fired more than 100 shots during Wednesday's attack on his former school.TIM KRETSCHMER Left Albertville school last year after passing examsOfficials said he was an ordinary pupil who had received good reports from schoolGerman media reported he had begun an apprenticeshipLived in the village of LeutenbachA keen table-tennis player, who aspired to become professional Attack raises gun-law questionsBoy was 'arrogant, not aggressive'Profile: Tim Kretschmer Officials said Kretschmer fired more than 100 shots during Wednesday's attack on his former school.
Germany's Bild newspaper reported students as saying he had gone into one classroom three times, asking: "Aren't you all dead?"Germany's Bild newspaper reported students as saying he had gone into one classroom three times, asking: "Aren't you all dead?"
Hans-Dieter Wagner, police director for the Esslingen area, told the news conference Kretschmer had fled the school on foot.Hans-Dieter Wagner, police director for the Esslingen area, told the news conference Kretschmer had fled the school on foot.
In the three hours after the school shooting, Kretschmer injured a passerby and shot dead an employee at a psychiatric clinic.In the three hours after the school shooting, Kretschmer injured a passerby and shot dead an employee at a psychiatric clinic.
He then shot and killed an employee and a customer at a car showroom in a nearby town.He then shot and killed an employee and a customer at a car showroom in a nearby town.
Officials say he still had more than 130 rounds of ammunition left when he was cornered by police and shot himself.Officials say he still had more than 130 rounds of ammunition left when he was cornered by police and shot himself.