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Joe Biden plays down chances of UK-US trade deal Joe Biden plays down chances of UK-US trade deal
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"This is a very important trip for us": Boris Johnson and Joe Biden hold face-to-face talks"This is a very important trip for us": Boris Johnson and Joe Biden hold face-to-face talks
Joe Biden has played down the chances of brokering a post-Brexit free trade deal with the UK, as he held talks with Boris Johnson at the White House. Joe Biden has played down the chances of a post-Brexit free trade deal between the US and UK, as he held talks with Boris Johnson at the White House.
Downing Street said its priority was still getting a deal with the US alone. The US president said he would discuss the issue "a little bit" with the UK prime minister, adding: "We're going to have to work that through."
But the BBC understands that UK ministers are now considering joining an existing North American trade pact instead of pursuing a separate deal. Downing Street said a direct deal with the US remained the "priority".
The two leaders also discussed Northern Ireland, climate change and Afghanistan during the 90-minute meeting. But UK ministers are pondering joining an existing North American trade pact instead, the BBC understands.
Downing Street said they "had agreed to continue working towards a future full free trade agreement". Mr Biden and Mr Johnson also discussed Northern Ireland, climate change and Afghanistan during the 90-minute meeting.
However, Mr Johnson had earlier also downplayed chances of securing a deal with the US before the next general election, saying: "The Americans do negotiate very hard." The UK is keen to strike free trade deals around the world in the wake of leaving the European Union's single market - including with the US, with which annual trade was worth an estimated $273bn (£200bn) in 2019.
Speaking to reporters in the Oval Office before the talks, Mr Biden said the pair would discuss trade "a little bit", adding: "We're going to have to work that through." A deal would encourage more business between the two countries by making it cheaper, usually by reducing or eliminating taxes called tariffs.
A deal would encourage trade by making it cheaper - usually by reducing or eliminating taxes called tariffs.
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A source familiar with the government's thinking suggested to the BBC that the UK could negotiate entry into an existing trade arrangement between the US, Canada and Mexico - known as the USMCA - set up after former US President Donald Trump tore up its predecessor, NAFTA. But Mr Johnson, echoing Mr Biden, downplayed chances of securing agreement with the US before the next general election, saying: "The Americans do negotiate very hard."
"There are a variety of different ways to do this," the source said. "The question is whether the US administration is ready. The ball is in the US's court. It takes two to tango." Environment Secretary George Eustice told Sky News: "We still very much hope to be able to put together an agreement with the United States. We are not putting timescales on it."
"It's just not a priority for the US administration," he added.
Mr Johnson highlighted the decision to lift the ban on British beef, and Downing Street is increasingly confident that there could soon be a favourable decision lifting the export ban on lamb.
Speaking to reporters in the Oval Office before the talks, Mr Biden said: "We're going to talk a little bit about trade today and we're going to have to work that through."
He did not counter the assertion from his predecessor Barack Obama that the UK would have to join "the back of the queue" in seeking a trade deal after Brexit.
It's really clear from both sides that there is no rapid path to a trade deal - the opportunity that used to be lauded by Brexiteers and by President Trump.It's really clear from both sides that there is no rapid path to a trade deal - the opportunity that used to be lauded by Brexiteers and by President Trump.
Mr Johnson hinted at that realism in his curtain raiser conversations on his way over here. Mr Johnson hinted at that realism in his curtain-raiser conversations on his way over here.
And the president pretty much confirmed that here in their meeting in the Oval Office. And the president pretty much confirmed that in the meeting in the Oval Office.
The UK seems no longer to want to believe, or pretend, that doing business in a major deal is top of their list.The UK seems no longer to want to believe, or pretend, that doing business in a major deal is top of their list.
Instead, while the government is still officially pursuing a stand-alone deal with the US there's a twin track with a more incremental approach - there have already been changes to whisky tariffs and British beef. But Number 10 is now hopeful that the Americans are seriously considering changing tack on British lamb. Instead, while the government is still officially pursuing a stand-alone deal with the US there's a twin track with a more incremental approach - there have already been changes to whisky tariffs and British beef. But No 10 is now hopeful that the Americans are seriously considering changing tack on British lamb.
Read more from Laura here.Read more from Laura here.
A source familiar with the government's thinking told the BBC the UK could negotiate entry into an existing trade arrangement between the US, Canada and Mexico - the USMCA - set up after former US President Donald Trump tore up its predecessor, NAFTA.
"There are a variety of different ways to do this," the source said. "The question is whether the US administration is ready. The ball is in the US's court. It takes two to tango."
Elsewhere, Downing Street said Mr Johnson and Mr Biden agreed all diplomatic and humanitarian methods must be used to stop conditions getting worse in Afghanistan.Elsewhere, Downing Street said Mr Johnson and Mr Biden agreed all diplomatic and humanitarian methods must be used to stop conditions getting worse in Afghanistan.
The leaders said any international recognition of the Taliban must be contingent on the group respecting human rights.The leaders said any international recognition of the Taliban must be contingent on the group respecting human rights.
It comes amid a request by the Taliban to address world leaders at the United Nations summit in New York this week. This followed a request by the Taliban to address world leaders at the United Nations summit in New York this week.
Brexit gave the UK the freedom to strike its own trade deals - and accounting for £1 in every £6 of British trade, a pact with the US was the ultimate prize.
But Whitehall officials have for months been scrabbling for an alternative after the Biden administration indicated it was in no hurry to resume talks.
Joining the USMCA arrangement already agreed by the US, Canada and Mexico could give the UK deeper benefits on some goods and digital trade with North American economies.
But it has limited coverage of the UK's biggest strength when it comes to selling to America, namely services. Economists say the overall gains from joining USMCA may be very limited, perhaps less than 0.1% of GDP
America's price of admission may include a hurdle already encountered: standards surrounding food and agricultural goods. For President Biden is explicit that his priority is US workers, not least its farmers.
He is also clear that domestic issues take precedence. Even if the UK does want to sign up to USMCA, it may still be at the back of a queue - simply to get its application considered.
Before the meeting, Mr Biden also issued a fresh warning to the UK that peace in Northern Ireland must not be jeopardised as a result of complications caused by Brexit.Before the meeting, Mr Biden also issued a fresh warning to the UK that peace in Northern Ireland must not be jeopardised as a result of complications caused by Brexit.
Mr Biden made it clear he has concerns about the Irish border, amid continuing issues with Northern Ireland Protocol - the arrangement which helps prevent checks along the border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland. He made it clear he had concerns about the Irish border, amid continuing issues with Northern Ireland Protocol - the arrangement which helps prevent checks along the border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland.
The pair also discussed the new UK, US and Australia security pact in the Asia-Pacific, with No 10 describing it as an example of "shared values and approach to the world". The pair also discussed the new UK, US and Australia security pact in the Asia-Pacific region, with No 10 describing it as an example of "shared values and approach to the world".
The meeting - taking place on the sidelines of the UN summit - also involved the traditional exchange of gifts. The meeting, taking place on the sidelines of the UN summit, involved the traditional exchange of gifts.
Mr Biden gave the prime minister a framed photo of their first meeting in Cornwall at the G7 summit in June, and a White House branded watch, according to officials. Mr Biden gave the prime minister a framed photo of their first meeting in Cornwall at the G7 summit in June, and a White House-branded watch.
Mr Johnson gave the president a signed copy of a book written by British astronaut Tim Peake with an inscription expressing hopes that it "provides a reminder of what we're fighting to save as our countries tackle climate change together". Mr Johnson presented the president with a signed copy of a book written by British astronaut Tim Peake, with an inscription expressing hopes that it "provides a reminder of what we're fighting to save as our countries tackle climate change together".
The prime minister's gift comes weeks ahead of the COP26 climate summit, which is seen as a crucial moment to bring climate change under control. The prime minister's gift comes weeks ahead of the COP26 summit in Glasgow, which is seen as a crucial moment to bring climate change under control.
Earlier, Mr Biden announced the US would double its climate finance pledge and increase funding for developing countries to $11.4bn (£8.3bn) by 2024.Earlier, Mr Biden announced the US would double its climate finance pledge and increase funding for developing countries to $11.4bn (£8.3bn) by 2024.
Mr Johnson said the US had "stepped up to the plate" with what he called a "massive contribution" towards the $100bn goal for countries to raise. Mr Johnson said the US had "stepped up to the plate" with what he called a "massive contribution" towards the $100bn (£73bn) goal for countries to raise.
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