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Basic income: Wales pilot offers £1,600 a month to care leavers Basic income: Wales pilot offers £1,600 a month to care leavers
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About 500 young people could be eligible for the schemeAbout 500 young people could be eligible for the scheme
Every 18-year-old leaving care will be offered £1,600 a month under a basic income pilot by the Welsh government. Every 18-year-old leaving care will be offered £1,600 a month for two years under a Welsh government basic income pilot.
It is expected about 500 people will be eligible to join the scheme, which is being launched this year and could cost up to £20m. It is expected about 500 people will be eligible to join the scheme, which could cost up to £20m.
Officials said it was the highest amount offered on a basic income scheme anywhere in the world.Officials said it was the highest amount offered on a basic income scheme anywhere in the world.
The Welsh Conservatives said it was a waste of money while Plaid Cymru wants the pilot to be expanded.The Welsh Conservatives said it was a waste of money while Plaid Cymru wants the pilot to be expanded.
The Conservatives also said Labour ministers were "not even close to living in reality" with this idea.
The £1,600 a month will be taxed and is expected to be counted as income by the UK government, meaning it would affect someone's eligibility for benefits.The £1,600 a month will be taxed and is expected to be counted as income by the UK government, meaning it would affect someone's eligibility for benefits.
It will be unconditional and will not be withdrawn if participants get a job.It will be unconditional and will not be withdrawn if participants get a job.
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But the Welsh government is no longer calling the plans a pilot of Universal Basic Income (UBI). It recognises that it does not capture the "universal" in the same way as the UBI concept promoted by advocates around the world. But the Welsh government is no longer calling the plans a pilot of Universal Basic Income (UBI), where every individual is given a sum of money.
Ministers want to test out how a basic income could help care leavers be better placed for their transition into independence as adults. Ministers want to test out how the payments could help care leavers be better placed for their transition into independence as adults.
Social Justice Minister Jane Hutt said the plans would "deliver financial stability for a generation of young people that need it most".
How will it work?How will it work?
Over the first 12 months of the three-year pilot every care leaver turning 18 will be offered the opportunity to take part. Over the first 12 months of the pilot every care leaver turning 18 will be offered the opportunity to take part.
They will receive payments for 24 months, amounting to an income worth £19,000 before tax annually, with the first payment a month after their 18th birthday.They will receive payments for 24 months, amounting to an income worth £19,000 before tax annually, with the first payment a month after their 18th birthday.
It is broadly equivalent to the real living wage, according to officials. Officials say it is equivalent to the real living wage and will be taxed at the basic rate.
The Welsh government has budgeted £5m in the first year of the pilot, £10m in the second and £5m in the third, although how much they spend will depend on how many sign up.
Ministers said the scheme would be subject to the basic rate of income tax at source.
The Department for Work and Pensions has confirmed the payment will affect people claiming Universal Credit as it is a "means tested benefit" and this counts as income.
Foster carer Laura Tams said she is worried vulnerable young people will be targeted by gangsFoster carer Laura Tams said she is worried vulnerable young people will be targeted by gangs
Laura Tams, 42, from Pontardawe, who has been fostering for six years, told Radio Wales additional support was also needed for young people leaving care. Laura Tams, 42, from Pontardawe, who has been fostering for six years, told BBC Radio Wales additional support was also needed for young people leaving care.
"We cannot just land £1,600 a month into the bank account of a vulnerable young person," she said. "These children have been through things that to you and I belong in nightmares. We cannot all of a sudden expect them at 18 to be able to run a house and to spend that money wisely."
"These children have been through things that to you and I belong in nightmares. We cannot all of a sudden expect them at 18 to be able to run a house and to spend that money wisely.
"They will be vulnerable… they will also be targeted by gangs."
Welsh officials are also promising extra support for those taking part, such as financial wellbeing training.Welsh officials are also promising extra support for those taking part, such as financial wellbeing training.
There is no date for when the scheme will be launched, although officials said it would probably be in the summer. There is no date for when the scheme will be launched, although officials said it was likely to be in the summer.
Alex Sommerville, who was in care when she was younger, said she was concerned young people would not want to go into education or workAlex Sommerville, who was in care when she was younger, said she was concerned young people would not want to go into education or work
Former youth worker Alex Sommerville, who left care when she was younger, told BBC Radio Wales Breakfast with Claire Summers she did not believe the scheme would encourage care leavers to find work, or study further.Former youth worker Alex Sommerville, who left care when she was younger, told BBC Radio Wales Breakfast with Claire Summers she did not believe the scheme would encourage care leavers to find work, or study further.
Ms Somerville, from Swansea, said: "Some would still want to go for education or work, but there is a part of me thinking, if you're getting that wage every month, why would you?"Ms Somerville, from Swansea, said: "Some would still want to go for education or work, but there is a part of me thinking, if you're getting that wage every month, why would you?"
"I'm very worried about giving young people all of that money and expecting them to know how to spend it in the best way for themselves.""I'm very worried about giving young people all of that money and expecting them to know how to spend it in the best way for themselves."
Social Justice Minister Jane Hutt said: "Our basic income pilot is an exciting project to deliver financial stability for a generation of young people that need it most."
Asked why it was no longer a universal income trial, she told BBC Wales that the government needed "to be realistic about our pilot. We needed to make sure it was meaningful in terms of the funding that we were giving".
The Welsh government is developing how it will evaluate the scheme, although it wants to look at how well those who take part do with jobs and accessing education.
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An experiment in Finland saw 2,000 people paid €560 (£490) a month, instead of their unemployment benefit.An experiment in Finland saw 2,000 people paid €560 (£490) a month, instead of their unemployment benefit.
Welsh Conservative spokesman for social partnership Joel James said trials had shown basic income failed to incentivise work and had proven to be a "waste of public money".Welsh Conservative spokesman for social partnership Joel James said trials had shown basic income failed to incentivise work and had proven to be a "waste of public money".
Plaid Cymru's economy spokesman Luke Fletcher said it was a step in the right direction but needed a "structure around it to enable it to meet the ambition of addressing poverty and unemployment, as well as improving health and financial wellbeing".Plaid Cymru's economy spokesman Luke Fletcher said it was a step in the right direction but needed a "structure around it to enable it to meet the ambition of addressing poverty and unemployment, as well as improving health and financial wellbeing".
People in the trial will not have to fill in a tax return - but their income will be subject to taxPeople in the trial will not have to fill in a tax return - but their income will be subject to tax
What is the difference between Universal Basic Income and Wales' plan?What is the difference between Universal Basic Income and Wales' plan?
UBI is where a government pays all individuals a set amount, regardless of their means.UBI is where a government pays all individuals a set amount, regardless of their means.
Once it was announced that this pilot would focus on care leavers, critics argued it was not universal. Backers say it could help reduce poverty and be easier and less stressful to navigate than more complex means-tested benefits, but opponents say it is extremely costly and not targeted at those who need it.
UBI advocates say it could help reduce poverty and be easier and less stressful to navigate than more complex means-tested benefits, but opponents say it is extremely costly and not targeted at those who need it. Once it was announced that the pilot would focus on care leavers, critics argued it was not actually universal.
The Welsh government had initially described it as a pilot of UBI, but has now stopped doing so.
Asked why it was not a trial of UBI, Social Justice Minister Jane Hutt told BBC Wales that the government needed "to be realistic". and the pilot needed to be "meaningful in terms of the funding".
A basic income for care leavers has been tried in Santa Clara, California, where 72 young adults received $1,000 (£739) initially for 12 months.A basic income for care leavers has been tried in Santa Clara, California, where 72 young adults received $1,000 (£739) initially for 12 months.
In Finland, research on a basic income pilot with jobless people for two years found it did not lead them to find work, although they felt happier.In Finland, research on a basic income pilot with jobless people for two years found it did not lead them to find work, although they felt happier.
The Welsh government plans were welcomed by the Joseph Rowntree Foundation, a charity which researches poverty in the UK.The Welsh government plans were welcomed by the Joseph Rowntree Foundation, a charity which researches poverty in the UK.
To match the level of basic income for care leavers at about the real living wage is bold.To match the level of basic income for care leavers at about the real living wage is bold.
Eighteen-year-olds working in jobs paying the national minimum wage - what it is still called for teenagers - will make £6.83 an hour from April 2022 . With so many people in Wales paid only the national minimum wage there may well be those who think the offer to care leavers is over-generous.
The real living wage for that age group is £9.90 an hour.
With so many people in Wales paid only the national minimum wage there may well be those who think the offer to care leavers is over-generous .
But in economic terms if the project is successful and results in better paid work and healthier lives, the long-term benefits would flow back into the economy.But in economic terms if the project is successful and results in better paid work and healthier lives, the long-term benefits would flow back into the economy.
While this is not is a pilot of UBI, its outcomes will be relevant to the debate around that.While this is not is a pilot of UBI, its outcomes will be relevant to the debate around that.
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