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US envoy 'in angry Karzai talks' US envoy 'in angry Karzai talks'
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By Ian Pannell BBC News, Kabul Mr Karzai was elected president of Afghanistan in 2004 The US special envoy to Afghanistan has held an "explosive" meeting with Afghan President Hamid Karzai over the country's election, the BBC has learnt.
The BBC has learned that the US special envoy to Afghanistan has had what has been described as "an explosive meeting" with President Hamid Karzai over the country's election. Richard Holbrooke raised concerns about ballot-stuffing and fraud, by a number of candidates' teams, sources say.
Sources have revealed that Richard Holbrooke raised concerns about ballot-stuffing and fraud and said that a second-round run off could make the process more credible. The US envoy also said a second-round run-off could make the election process more credible, the sources said.
The final results in the election won't be known until next month. Concerns have already been raised about Afghanistan's election, although final results are not due until September.
A number of senior sources have confirmed the details of a meeting between Richard Holbrooke and President Karzai the day after the election. A number of senior sources have confirmed the details of a meeting between Mr Holbrooke and Mr Karzai held on 21 August, one day after the election.
It was described as "explosive" and "a dramatic bust-up". The meeting was described as "explosive" and "a dramatic bust-up".
Richard Holbrooke is said to have twice raised the idea of a second round run-off because of concerns about the voting process. Mr Holbrooke is said to have twice raised the idea of holding a second round run-off because of concerns about the voting process.
He is believed to have complained about the use of fraud and ballot-stuffing by some members of the president's campaign team as well as other candidates. Other leading candidates: Ramazan Bashardost 108,000 (10.8%)Ashraf Ghani Ahmadzai 28,000 (2.8%) Winning candidate needs more than 50% of votes to avoid a run-off class="" href="/2/hi/south_asia/8222671.stm">The trials of election monitoring
There have been complaints of ballot-stuffing and fraud He is believed to have complained about the use of fraud and ballot stuffing by some members of the president's campaign team, as well as other candidates.
The sources say that President Karzai reacted very angrily and that the meeting ended shortly afterwards. Mr Karzai reacted very angrily and that the meeting ended shortly afterwards, the sources said.
A spokeswoman for the US embassy in Kabul denied there had been any shouting or that Richard Holbrooke had stormed out. However, a spokeswoman for the US embassy in Kabul denied there had been any shouting or that Mr Holbrooke had stormed out.
She refused to discuss the details of the meeting. A spokesman for the presidential palace denied the account of the conversation. She refused to discuss the details of the meeting.
There have been many doubts raised about the Afghan presidential election; about the turnout and irregularities. A spokesman for the presidential palace denied the account of the conversation.
There have been many doubts raised about the Afghan presidential election, about the turnout and irregularities.
But this is the first time that a leading Western official has apparently expressed it quite so openly.But this is the first time that a leading Western official has apparently expressed it quite so openly.
It will raise more questions about the credibility of the whole process and could well make the plan to establish a meaningful government in a stable country all the harder to achieve.It will raise more questions about the credibility of the whole process and could well make the plan to establish a meaningful government in a stable country all the harder to achieve.