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Monarchy debate: Valuable tradition or unfair wealth? | Monarchy debate: Valuable tradition or unfair wealth? |
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The monarchy has kept the support of the majority of people, according to the most recent polls | The monarchy has kept the support of the majority of people, according to the most recent polls |
A venerated tradition or a pointless expense? A symbol of continuity or a symbol of inherited privilege? | A venerated tradition or a pointless expense? A symbol of continuity or a symbol of inherited privilege? |
Debates about keeping or scrapping the monarchy can become like arguments over religion. | Debates about keeping or scrapping the monarchy can become like arguments over religion. |
People's views are often more about their instincts and identity, family and feelings, rather than anything that could be called evidence and put into a spreadsheet. | People's views are often more about their instincts and identity, family and feelings, rather than anything that could be called evidence and put into a spreadsheet. |
So the BBC Radio 4's Today programme debate on "Do We Need a Monarchy?" offered snapshots into these competing world views, serving up a pundits' version of roundheads versus cavaliers. | So the BBC Radio 4's Today programme debate on "Do We Need a Monarchy?" offered snapshots into these competing world views, serving up a pundits' version of roundheads versus cavaliers. |
Lord Charles Moore, former Daily Telegraph editor, spoke of the monarchy as an essential "guarantee of legitimacy" that underpinned the democratic system in a way that was politically neutral. | Lord Charles Moore, former Daily Telegraph editor, spoke of the monarchy as an essential "guarantee of legitimacy" that underpinned the democratic system in a way that was politically neutral. |
Whereas Polly Toynbee, Guardian journalist, said it was a symbol that sent all the wrong messages at a time when "social mobility is going backwards". | Whereas Polly Toynbee, Guardian journalist, said it was a symbol that sent all the wrong messages at a time when "social mobility is going backwards". |
What do we know about the coronation so far? | What do we know about the coronation so far? |
How popular is the monarchy under King Charles? | How popular is the monarchy under King Charles? |
Billy Bragg, left-wing singer-songwriter, put forward Gary Lineker as a potential alternative monarch. | Billy Bragg, left-wing singer-songwriter, put forward Gary Lineker as a potential alternative monarch. |
The musician's criticism of the current arrangement was the way the monarchy was still intertwined with the law-making process. Instead he wanted a monarchy restricted to a ceremonial function, but was "completely out of the constitution". | The musician's criticism of the current arrangement was the way the monarchy was still intertwined with the law-making process. Instead he wanted a monarchy restricted to a ceremonial function, but was "completely out of the constitution". |
Cambridge University sociologist Prof Jason Arday said the "elephant in the room" was that so many people were struggling financially and that the royal wealth could be redistributed. | Cambridge University sociologist Prof Jason Arday said the "elephant in the room" was that so many people were struggling financially and that the royal wealth could be redistributed. |
Anti-monarchy posters on a wall in London | Anti-monarchy posters on a wall in London |
Lord Moore said the practical impact of such a handout would be "tiny" and presidential systems such as France still had heads of state living in grandeur. | Lord Moore said the practical impact of such a handout would be "tiny" and presidential systems such as France still had heads of state living in grandeur. |
Times columnist Juliet Samuel said any reclaimed royal money would disappear into state coffers and an object of "huge affection" would have been lost, without much to show for it. | Times columnist Juliet Samuel said any reclaimed royal money would disappear into state coffers and an object of "huge affection" would have been lost, without much to show for it. |
"The monarchy and its rituals and its dramas and events, and the way it marks time, provide us with a collective experience," she said. | "The monarchy and its rituals and its dramas and events, and the way it marks time, provide us with a collective experience," she said. |
The debate comes as the Coronation approaches, but also at a time when there are increasingly visible anti-monarchy protests. | The debate comes as the Coronation approaches, but also at a time when there are increasingly visible anti-monarchy protests. |
A survey for BBC One's Panorama programme this week showed broad support for the monarchy, backed by 58%, but with a sizeable minority, 26%, preferring an elected head of state. | A survey for BBC One's Panorama programme this week showed broad support for the monarchy, backed by 58%, but with a sizeable minority, 26%, preferring an elected head of state. |
There was particular scepticism about royalty among the young, with only 32% supporting the monarchy. Perhaps more corrosive was the level of indifference, with 78% of young people "not interested" in the Royal Family. | There was particular scepticism about royalty among the young, with only 32% supporting the monarchy. Perhaps more corrosive was the level of indifference, with 78% of young people "not interested" in the Royal Family. |
But it's worth putting such figures into a longer-term context. Polls for the past 30 years have consistently shown about a fifth of adults preferring a republic. It's not a dramatic change now, but perhaps a mixture of the new reign and the wider reach of social media have increased the impact of those against the monarchy. | But it's worth putting such figures into a longer-term context. Polls for the past 30 years have consistently shown about a fifth of adults preferring a republic. It's not a dramatic change now, but perhaps a mixture of the new reign and the wider reach of social media have increased the impact of those against the monarchy. |
Prof Arday said there was "less sense of deference" to the monarchy among the young, but he had seen a "collective sense of grief" in response to the Queen Elizabeth II's death, which suggested the monarchy's capacity to unite people if it could modernise enough to connect with them. | Prof Arday said there was "less sense of deference" to the monarchy among the young, but he had seen a "collective sense of grief" in response to the Queen Elizabeth II's death, which suggested the monarchy's capacity to unite people if it could modernise enough to connect with them. |
Lord Moore argued that the monarchy brought a greater stability to the democratic system, but Toynbee said it was the opposite and that it was profoundly anti-democratic to "bring up children to worship the idea of a sovereign". | Lord Moore argued that the monarchy brought a greater stability to the democratic system, but Toynbee said it was the opposite and that it was profoundly anti-democratic to "bring up children to worship the idea of a sovereign". |
Bragg warned that the biggest threat to the monarchy was if it was dragged into the culture wars, full of polarising anger, which could destroy its popularity. | Bragg warned that the biggest threat to the monarchy was if it was dragged into the culture wars, full of polarising anger, which could destroy its popularity. |
It could end up, said the Bard of Barking, with King Charles being accused of being "too woke for his own good". | It could end up, said the Bard of Barking, with King Charles being accused of being "too woke for his own good". |
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Coronation of King Charles III | Coronation of King Charles III |
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