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Tributes have been paid to the 14 UK military personnel who died when their plane crashed in southern Afghanistan.Tributes have been paid to the 14 UK military personnel who died when their plane crashed in southern Afghanistan.
The RAF Nimrod MR2 crashed on Saturday, killing 12 air personnel from 120 Squadron based at RAF Kinloss in Scotland, a Royal Marine and a soldier. The RAF Nimrod MR2 crashed on Saturday, killing 12 air personnel from 120 Squadron based at RAF Kinloss in Moray, Scotland, a Royal Marine and a soldier.
Wing Commander Martin Cannard, of 120 Squadron, said the victims were "great guys" and it was a "profound loss".Wing Commander Martin Cannard, of 120 Squadron, said the victims were "great guys" and it was a "profound loss".
An inquiry has begun to find out why the reconnaissance aircraft came down. A technical fault has been blamed.An inquiry has begun to find out why the reconnaissance aircraft came down. A technical fault has been blamed.
Defence Secretary Des Browne told BBC One's Sunday AM programme there was no correlation between the incident and claims there is a lack of resources for British troops. Foreign Office Minister Kim Howells, who is visiting the Afghan capital Kabul, dismissed claims the crash showed the UK's aircraft were old and more funds were needed to be committed to the operation.
"I've not heard that at all from our commanders, our generals out here, they seem very satisfied with the equipment they've got," he said.
He pointed out there are 36 other countries helping in the operation.
We recognised that the job would bring certain dangers and risks and we supported our troops Des BrowneDefence secretary Quick guide: Afghanistan Factfile: Nimrod MR2 Send us your reaction
Wing Cdr Cannard, the commanding officer of 120 Squadron, said of the men who died: "They were hard-working, professional guys doing important jobs which they were committed to, which they enjoyed.
"They were good friends, their families were good friends to many of us."
As the flag at RAF Kinloss flew at half-mast, he added that the deaths at affected families ""all over the country".
The plane which crashed had been supporting a major offensive, in which Nato said more than 200 Taleban have been killed.
Four soldiers with the Nato-led forces were killed and seven hurt in Operation Medusa, near the city of Kandahar.
'Significant force''Significant force'
"Those who have been following developments in Afghanistan will know that we deployed a significant force in the first place to do a very specific job there. Defence Secretary Des Browne told BBC One's Sunday AM programme: said a "significant force" had been deployed to Afghanistan to "do a very specific job".
"We recognised that the job would bring certain dangers and risks and we supported our troops with, for example, a deployment of attack helicopters.""We recognised that the job would bring certain dangers and risks and we supported our troops with, for example, a deployment of attack helicopters."
He said the Nimrod aircraft had a good safety record and was maintained to very high standards.He said the Nimrod aircraft had a good safety record and was maintained to very high standards.
Wing Cdr Cannard, the commanding officer of 120 Squadron, said of the victims: "They were hard-working, professional guys doing important jobs which they were committed to, which they enjoyed.
"They were good friends, their families were good friends to many of us."
As the flag at RAF Kinloss in Moray flew at half-mast, he added that the deaths at affected families ""all over the country".
The tributes came as four soldiers with the Nato-led forces were killed and seven hurt in Operation Medusa, near the city of Kandahar.
Nato said more than 200 Taleban were killed in the major offensive.
Dangers 'understood'
PREVIOUS NIMROD LOSSES 17 November 1980: Bird strike at Roseisle Forest, near Kinloss, Scotland3 June 1984: Fire on board at St Mawgan, Cornwall16 May 1995: Engine fire at Lossiemouth, Scotland2 September 1995: Crash at Toronto Air Show, Canada
Meanwhile Foreign Office Minister Kim Howells has arrived in Kabul on his fourth visit to the country.
He will be seeing Afghanistan's president Hamid Karzai, government ministers, Nato commanders and UN officials.
Patrick Mercer, the Conservative spokesman on homeland security, said British forces in Afghanistan needed to be better equipped.Patrick Mercer, the Conservative spokesman on homeland security, said British forces in Afghanistan needed to be better equipped.
"You've got to be prepared for a bloody engagement with doughty fighters like the Taleban."You've got to be prepared for a bloody engagement with doughty fighters like the Taleban.
"Now if we're going to do that we've got to have the kit, the equipment, the troops, the firepower that we need to do this as effectively as we can.""Now if we're going to do that we've got to have the kit, the equipment, the troops, the firepower that we need to do this as effectively as we can."
PREVIOUS NIMROD LOSSES 17 November 1980: Bird strike at Roseisle Forest, near Kinloss, Scotland3 June 1984: Fire on board at St Mawgan, Cornwall16 May 1995: Engine fire at Lossiemouth, Scotland2 September 1995: Crash at Toronto Air Show, Canada
Group Captain Chris Birks, station commander at RAF Kinloss, insisted all safety procedures had been followed and the aircraft which crashed had not been overworked.Group Captain Chris Birks, station commander at RAF Kinloss, insisted all safety procedures had been followed and the aircraft which crashed had not been overworked.
"We will always fly as required for operations."We will always fly as required for operations.
"We have limits set that we do not exceed, and that certainly has been the case in the operations that we are flying in the Middle East and at home.""We have limits set that we do not exceed, and that certainly has been the case in the operations that we are flying in the Middle East and at home."
Tributes 'First class'
He paid tribute to the dead men, describing them as "first class personnel".He paid tribute to the dead men, describing them as "first class personnel".
Mr Browne also paid his respects to those who had died, and dismissed claims by the Taleban that militia had shot down the plane.Mr Browne also paid his respects to those who had died, and dismissed claims by the Taleban that militia had shot down the plane.
He said: "The Taleban regularly make claims which we know to be untrue and I think in this case, this is instructive of the nature of their dishonesty.
It was not enemy fire that brought the plane down, it was equipment malfunction Dr Alexandra Ashbourne Quick guide: Afghanistan Factfile: Nimrod MR2 Send us your reaction
"In Afghanistan, we have secured the site and the investigation has begun.""In Afghanistan, we have secured the site and the investigation has begun."
Roland Buerk, the BBC's correspondent in Afghanistan, said Nato reported the Nimrod was flying too high to be hit by the Taleban's stinger missiles in the minutes before the crash.
The next of kin are currently being informed of the tragedy.
Major Luke Knittig, a spokesman for the International Security Assistance Force (Isaf), said the aircraft, which had been acting in a support role to the Nato-led force battling the Taleban, had made an emergency call shortly before it disappeared.
Coalition helicopters were reportedly seen flying to the scene of the crash, about 20 km (12 miles) west of the city of Kandahar.
Crash implications probed MPs and experts respondCrash implications probed MPs and experts respond
Roland Buerk, the BBC's correspondent in Afghanistan, said Nato reported the Nimrod was flying too high to be hit by the Taleban's stinger missiles in the minutes before the crash.
Major Luke Knittig, a spokesman for the International Security Assistance Force (Isaf), said the aircraft had made an emergency call shortly before it disappeared.
The crash brings the death toll of UK forces personnel in Afghanistan to 36 since the start of operations in November 2001.The crash brings the death toll of UK forces personnel in Afghanistan to 36 since the start of operations in November 2001.
There are 5,500 British troops in the country, helping to train Afghan security forces, facilitate reconstruction and provide security.There are 5,500 British troops in the country, helping to train Afghan security forces, facilitate reconstruction and provide security.
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