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Post Office inquiry live: Angela van den Bogerd shown letter blaming PO for postmaster's death - BBC News Post Office inquiry live: Angela van den Bogerd shown letter blaming PO for postmaster's death - BBC News
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Things are getting a bit technical now, so bear with us. Angela van den Bogerd is asked about an internal document created after a meeting by the Post Office Executive Committee, at which she had not been present.
In her witness statement - which you can read here - Angela van den Bogerd says she didn't make a connection between the safety of ARQ and the convictions of sub-postmasters and postmistresses. The inquiry is shown the "context" written in the report, which is consisted of several bullet points. One of them says that the Post Office has no hard power and a minimal influence but was having to pay for the mediation scheme.
ARQ refers to an Audit Record Query - which is what Post Office managers asked Fujitsu for when resolving Horizon problems. Another bullet point says "hostile stakeholders including those directly engaged in the mediation scheme by the Post Office."
Beer says Helen Rose was raising a broader issue that the ARQ data logs used in court by the Post Office to prosecute sub-postmasters didn't show the full or real picture. He goes on to ask if that didn't ring alarm bells, to which van den Bogerd says "not for me at the time". Van den Bogerd says that she didn't put together the report and doesn't recall being approached for her thoughts on its contents.
She goes on, saying she expected Rose to "take this issue through her reporting line because this was outside my area of knowledge ... I wouldn't have had the knowledge to know what to do with it". She says the Post Office "never intended" to have hard power or control over the mediation as an independent process was running, and suggests that it was Second Sight, the independent forensic accountants, that were referred to as "hostile".
"Are you saying that you need greater knowledge scope to realise it's a broader serious issue to present inaccurate information to a court?" Beer asks, to which the former Post Office director says. "Were they hostile?" Beer asks.
It was the first time I was getting involved in this. I didn't have the broader view or knowledge. It was Helen's expertise." "Not to my knowledge, they were challenging. They were independent therefore they were challenging, that's what I expected them to be," she replies.
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