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| Net pirates to be 'disconnected' | Net pirates to be 'disconnected' |
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| People who persistently download illegal content will be cut off from the net, Business Secretary Peter Mandelson has announced. | People who persistently download illegal content will be cut off from the net, Business Secretary Peter Mandelson has announced. |
| Speaking at a government-sponsored forum he said the UK would introduce a similar policy to France. | Speaking at a government-sponsored forum he said the UK would introduce a similar policy to France. |
| It means persistent pirates will be sent two warning letters before facing disconnection from the network. | It means persistent pirates will be sent two warning letters before facing disconnection from the network. |
| ISP TalkTalk said the plans were "ill-conceived" and said it was prepared to challenge measures "in the courts". | ISP TalkTalk said the plans were "ill-conceived" and said it was prepared to challenge measures "in the courts". |
| "What is being proposed is wrong in principle and won't work in practice," the firm said. | "What is being proposed is wrong in principle and won't work in practice," the firm said. |
| "In the event we are instructed to impose extra judicial technical measures we will challenge the instruction in the courts." | "In the event we are instructed to impose extra judicial technical measures we will challenge the instruction in the courts." |
| Lord Mandelson said that cutting off internet connections would be a "last resort". | |
| ILLEGAL FILE-SHARING File-sharing is not illegal. It only becomes illegal when users are sharing content, such as music, that is protected by copyrightsThe crackdown will be aimed at people who regularly use technologies, such as BitTorrent, and websites, such as The Pirate Bay, to find and download filesThere are plenty of legitimate services which use file-sharing technology such as some on-demand TV services Q&A: Disconnecting file-sharers | ILLEGAL FILE-SHARING File-sharing is not illegal. It only becomes illegal when users are sharing content, such as music, that is protected by copyrightsThe crackdown will be aimed at people who regularly use technologies, such as BitTorrent, and websites, such as The Pirate Bay, to find and download filesThere are plenty of legitimate services which use file-sharing technology such as some on-demand TV services Q&A: Disconnecting file-sharers |
| "I have no expectation of mass suspensions. People will receive two notifications and if it reaches the point [of cutting them off] they will have the opportunity to appeal," he told the audience at the C&binet Forum, a talking shop set up by government to debate the issues facing the creative industries. | "I have no expectation of mass suspensions. People will receive two notifications and if it reaches the point [of cutting them off] they will have the opportunity to appeal," he told the audience at the C&binet Forum, a talking shop set up by government to debate the issues facing the creative industries. |
| The pay-off for tough penalties against persistent file-sharers would be a more relaxed copyright regime, Lord Mandelson said. | |
| The details of it would need to be hammered out at European level but it would take account of the use of copyright material "at home and between friends", he said. | The details of it would need to be hammered out at European level but it would take account of the use of copyright material "at home and between friends", he said. |
| It would mean that, for example, someone who has bought a CD would be able to copy it to their iPod or share it with family members without acting unlawfully. | It would mean that, for example, someone who has bought a CD would be able to copy it to their iPod or share it with family members without acting unlawfully. |
| Lord Mandelson praised the UK's creative industries, which are worth around £16bn and employs 2 million people. | |
| But it has been eroded in recent years, he said, by new ways of accessing content. | But it has been eroded in recent years, he said, by new ways of accessing content. |
| "I was shocked to learn that only one in 20 music tracks in the UK is downloaded legally. We cannot sit back and do nothing," said Lord Mandelson. | |
| The fact that young people now expect to download content for free was "morally as well as economically unsustainable," he added. | The fact that young people now expect to download content for free was "morally as well as economically unsustainable," he added. |
| Mere conduits | Mere conduits |
| But he emphasised that "legislation and enforcement can only ever be part of the solution". | But he emphasised that "legislation and enforcement can only ever be part of the solution". |
| The long-term answer was for the industry to educate users and to offer new and cheaper ways to download content, he said. In addition, new copyright laws were needed to lift restrictions on how people moved content on to the various different devices that they owned. | The long-term answer was for the industry to educate users and to offer new and cheaper ways to download content, he said. In addition, new copyright laws were needed to lift restrictions on how people moved content on to the various different devices that they owned. |
| Anger at UK file-sharing policy | Anger at UK file-sharing policy |
| In France the government has just approved a so-called three strikes policy. | In France the government has just approved a so-called three strikes policy. |
| Under its system, those identified as illegally downloading content would initially be sent warning letters and, if they failed to comply, could be removed from the network for up to a year. | Under its system, those identified as illegally downloading content would initially be sent warning letters and, if they failed to comply, could be removed from the network for up to a year. |
| UK internet service providers have argued that it is not their job to police the network, claiming that there are "mere conduits" of content. | UK internet service providers have argued that it is not their job to police the network, claiming that there are "mere conduits" of content. |
| They also say that they should not have to bear the brunt of the costs. | They also say that they should not have to bear the brunt of the costs. |
| In his speech, Lord Mandelson said that the costs of enforcing the policy would be "shared between ISPs and content providers". | |
| However, ISP TalkTalk said that it would "continue to resist any attempts to make it impose technical measures on its customers". | However, ISP TalkTalk said that it would "continue to resist any attempts to make it impose technical measures on its customers". |
| It has set up a campaign called Don't Disconnect Us to lobby against the plans. | It has set up a campaign called Don't Disconnect Us to lobby against the plans. |
| it said that it believed the "three-strikes" rule would lead to "wrongful accusations". | it said that it believed the "three-strikes" rule would lead to "wrongful accusations". |
| "The unintended consequence of Lord Mandelson's plan will be to encourage more wi-fi and PC hi-jacking and expose more innocent people to being penalised." | "The unintended consequence of Lord Mandelson's plan will be to encourage more wi-fi and PC hi-jacking and expose more innocent people to being penalised." |
| The firm recently demonstrated how someone could hi-jack unsecured wi-fi connections to download music illegally. | The firm recently demonstrated how someone could hi-jack unsecured wi-fi connections to download music illegally. |
| Dark net | Dark net |
| The Open Rights Group, a digital rights lobby organisation, has long been opposed to a disconnection policy. | The Open Rights Group, a digital rights lobby organisation, has long been opposed to a disconnection policy. |
| Jim Killock, executive director of the Open Rights Group, is disappointed that the UK government is determined to introduce such legislation. | Jim Killock, executive director of the Open Rights Group, is disappointed that the UK government is determined to introduce such legislation. |
| TalkTalk security expert Matt Roxburgh demonstrates the problem to Rory Cellan-Jones | TalkTalk security expert Matt Roxburgh demonstrates the problem to Rory Cellan-Jones |
| "Even MI5 disagree with Mr Mandelson - they are convinced we will see a rise of a 'Dark Net' of infringers. Nobody at C&binet from an online music service, as opposed to an old media company, thought that peer-to-peer [file-sharing] was a threat to their businesses. | "Even MI5 disagree with Mr Mandelson - they are convinced we will see a rise of a 'Dark Net' of infringers. Nobody at C&binet from an online music service, as opposed to an old media company, thought that peer-to-peer [file-sharing] was a threat to their businesses. |
| "Yet Mandelson seems determined to push forward with his plans for 'three strikes' - threatening to punish people extremely harshly, threatening their education, businesses and livelihoods for a relatively minor financial misdemeanour," he said. | "Yet Mandelson seems determined to push forward with his plans for 'three strikes' - threatening to punish people extremely harshly, threatening their education, businesses and livelihoods for a relatively minor financial misdemeanour," he said. |
| At the same forum, Jean-Bernard Levy, chief executive of Vivendi, a French content and internet service provider, said he agreed with a tough stance. | At the same forum, Jean-Bernard Levy, chief executive of Vivendi, a French content and internet service provider, said he agreed with a tough stance. |
| "At Vivendi, we are in the content business, we are in the telecom business and there is no internal debate," he told delegates. | "At Vivendi, we are in the content business, we are in the telecom business and there is no internal debate," he told delegates. |
| "The priority is not to grow traffic on the ISPs. The priority is that creators, people who develop content, should find a way [to be rewarded]." | "The priority is not to grow traffic on the ISPs. The priority is that creators, people who develop content, should find a way [to be rewarded]." |