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Exclusion for knives 'too simple', says Estyn chief | Exclusion for knives 'too simple', says Estyn chief |
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Pupils at Ysgol Dyffryn Aman went into lockdown following three stabbings | Pupils at Ysgol Dyffryn Aman went into lockdown following three stabbings |
Understanding why children bring knives into school is better than a blanket exclusion policy, the chief inspector of Welsh education inspectorate Estyn has said. | Understanding why children bring knives into school is better than a blanket exclusion policy, the chief inspector of Welsh education inspectorate Estyn has said. |
Owen Evans said the "easy answer" was to ban or exclude but he believed there needed to be more nuance. | Owen Evans said the "easy answer" was to ban or exclude but he believed there needed to be more nuance. |
He said there were multiple reasons why a child might bring a knife into school and a one-size-fits-all policy would not work. | He said there were multiple reasons why a child might bring a knife into school and a one-size-fits-all policy would not work. |
He was talking after a 14-year-old girl was convicted of the attempted murder of three people during a school stabbing in Ammanford, Carmarthenshire. | He was talking after a 14-year-old girl was convicted of the attempted murder of three people during a school stabbing in Ammanford, Carmarthenshire. |
"You may have a child that has every potential for redemption but they have fallen into bad practice and we cannot exclude those people from society," Mr Evans told Walescast. | "You may have a child that has every potential for redemption but they have fallen into bad practice and we cannot exclude those people from society," Mr Evans told Walescast. |
"I think you need to look at why. A lot of children who bring knives to school feel threatened themselves or they feel that other people are bringing knives to school. | "I think you need to look at why. A lot of children who bring knives to school feel threatened themselves or they feel that other people are bringing knives to school. |
"We need to tackle the root issues that sit behind that decision," he added. | "We need to tackle the root issues that sit behind that decision," he added. |
Although knife attacks in Welsh schools are rare, Mr Evans said "we need to learn from it". | Although knife attacks in Welsh schools are rare, Mr Evans said "we need to learn from it". |
Bridgend council said it would launch a group to find out "what is going on" after police were called to Bryntirion Comprehensive last week after reports a knife had been found in a boy's bag, according to the Local Democracy Reporting Service. | |
Estyn chief inspector Owen Evans says the approach needs to be more "nuanced" | Estyn chief inspector Owen Evans says the approach needs to be more "nuanced" |
Estyn is currently preparing for the release of its annual report on the state of education and training across Wales. | Estyn is currently preparing for the release of its annual report on the state of education and training across Wales. |
Mr Evans said it could see behavioural issues were increasing in schools. | Mr Evans said it could see behavioural issues were increasing in schools. |
"It isn't across absolutely everything, but low-level disruption and also these more complex needs we are seeing more of. | "It isn't across absolutely everything, but low-level disruption and also these more complex needs we are seeing more of. |
"In primary schools we are seeing children who are not potty trained. Since the pandemic, we are seeing young people coming into schools who can't speak, who can't communicate. | "In primary schools we are seeing children who are not potty trained. Since the pandemic, we are seeing young people coming into schools who can't speak, who can't communicate. |
"That is an issue," he added. | "That is an issue," he added. |
He said there needed to be more support for pupils, teachers and schools but accepted there were issues with capacity. | He said there needed to be more support for pupils, teachers and schools but accepted there were issues with capacity. |
"Where you have strong leadership, clear and consistently applied policies to behaviour and when you have good support measures wrapped around child and the family you can make a real difference to behaviours in that setting. | "Where you have strong leadership, clear and consistently applied policies to behaviour and when you have good support measures wrapped around child and the family you can make a real difference to behaviours in that setting. |
"The support services around that school need to be in a position to pick that up and that at the moment is difficult. | "The support services around that school need to be in a position to pick that up and that at the moment is difficult. |
"Demand after the pandemic has almost doubled," he said. | "Demand after the pandemic has almost doubled," he said. |
Wales' Education Secretary Lynne Neagle said a behavioural summit would be held next year to tackle the "complex" problems facing schools. | Wales' Education Secretary Lynne Neagle said a behavioural summit would be held next year to tackle the "complex" problems facing schools. |