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| ID cards 'good for going to bars' | ID cards 'good for going to bars' |
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| Young people should take up identity cards as a "convenient" way of proving their age in nightclubs and bars, a Home Office minister has said. | Young people should take up identity cards as a "convenient" way of proving their age in nightclubs and bars, a Home Office minister has said. |
| Meg Hillier said the cards would also make it easier to prove identity at the post office when picking up parcels. | |
| But former shadow home secretary David Davis, for the Tories, said: "This is a far from robust defence of one of their most expensive follies." | |
| The first cards will be available in Greater Manchester later this month. | |
| Ministers plan to launch the £30 biometric ID card nationwide in 2011 or 2012, but it will not be compulsory. | Ministers plan to launch the £30 biometric ID card nationwide in 2011 or 2012, but it will not be compulsory. |
| 'Pretty good going' | 'Pretty good going' |
| The government argues it will help combat identity fraud, crime and terrorism. | The government argues it will help combat identity fraud, crime and terrorism. |
| FROM THE TODAY PROGRAMME More from Today programme | FROM THE TODAY PROGRAMME More from Today programme |
| The pilot scheme in Greater Manchester starts on 30 November. | The pilot scheme in Greater Manchester starts on 30 November. |
| Ms Hillier said replacing lost ID cards would be cheaper and quicker than replacing passports, used by many to gain entry to licensed premises. | |
| She told BBC Radio 4's programme: "They are £30, compared with a £77.50 passport, which is pretty good going for something which proves identity and allows travel in Europe." | |
| She added: "Greater Manchester has got among the highest number of young people in a single area across Europe. | She added: "Greater Manchester has got among the highest number of young people in a single area across Europe. |
| "People often take their passports to prove their identity, going to nightclubs and bars and the Passport Service sweeps these up every week. | "People often take their passports to prove their identity, going to nightclubs and bars and the Passport Service sweeps these up every week. |
| "For a lot of young people this will save the cost and the hassle of risking losing it, and instead we have got this very convenient credit-sized card. | "For a lot of young people this will save the cost and the hassle of risking losing it, and instead we have got this very convenient credit-sized card. |
| "I've got one. It's very convenient." | "I've got one. It's very convenient." |
| 'Parcel pick-up' | 'Parcel pick-up' |
| The card is similar in look to a UK driving licence but holds more data, including two fingerprints and a photograph encoded on a chip. | The card is similar in look to a UK driving licence but holds more data, including two fingerprints and a photograph encoded on a chip. |
| This chip and its unique number in turn links the card to a national identity register which, under current legislation, could hold more information about the identity of the individual. | This chip and its unique number in turn links the card to a national identity register which, under current legislation, could hold more information about the identity of the individual. |
| Ms Hillier said the information would be held on several different databases, each containing different aspects of the holder's personal information. | Ms Hillier said the information would be held on several different databases, each containing different aspects of the holder's personal information. |
| PROPOSED TIMETABLE 2008: Foreign National ID card launched2009: UK ID card offered in Greater Manchester2010: Scheme extended across NW EnglandJune 2010: Last possible date for general election2011-12: Nationwide roll-out? | PROPOSED TIMETABLE 2008: Foreign National ID card launched2009: UK ID card offered in Greater Manchester2010: Scheme extended across NW EnglandJune 2010: Last possible date for general election2011-12: Nationwide roll-out? |
| This would make the system more secure, she added. | This would make the system more secure, she added. |
| Ms Hillier said: "On a day-to-day basis, you could use it to do things like prove who you are at the post office when you pick up a parcel." | Ms Hillier said: "On a day-to-day basis, you could use it to do things like prove who you are at the post office when you pick up a parcel." |
| The card can be used as a travel document within Europe, separate to the passport, similar to arrangements between other EU member states. | The card can be used as a travel document within Europe, separate to the passport, similar to arrangements between other EU member states. |
| In June, the Home Office dropped plans to make the ID card compulsory for 200,000 airport workers amid widespread opposition from inside the industry that it would do nothing to improve the security procedures already in place. | In June, the Home Office dropped plans to make the ID card compulsory for 200,000 airport workers amid widespread opposition from inside the industry that it would do nothing to improve the security procedures already in place. |
| This means only some foreign nationals are currently obliged to hold a card. | This means only some foreign nationals are currently obliged to hold a card. |
| The Conservatives, Liberal Democrats and civil rights campaigners say ID cards are a waste of money and will not improve national security. | The Conservatives, Liberal Democrats and civil rights campaigners say ID cards are a waste of money and will not improve national security. |
| They have called for them to be scrapped. | They have called for them to be scrapped. |
| The scheme is said to cost £5bn, although the London School of Economics estimates it will cost between £10bn and £20bn. | The scheme is said to cost £5bn, although the London School of Economics estimates it will cost between £10bn and £20bn. |
| Commenting in the Manchester pilot scheme, former shadow home secretary David Davis said: "The lack of confidence the government has in this scheme is evident by the fact that they have made no estimate of the take-up of this trial. | |
| "This is hardly surprising when the minister believes it is only useful for getting into nightclubs and collecting parcels. This is a far from robust defence of one of their most expensive follies." | |
| Both the Conservatives and the Liberal Democrats have said they would abolish ID cards if they win the next election. | |
| UK NATIONAL ID CARD: KEY FEATURES EXPLAINED 1. Symbol meaning a chip is embedded in the card2. ID card number3. Citizenship. Foreign nationals in the UK are being given different cards.4. Place of birth5. Signature - digitally embedded in the card 6. Date of card issue and date it becomes invalid7. Photo taken to biometric standards 8. Biometric chip holds fingerprint record 9. Swipe zone. Information which can be automatically read by computer | UK NATIONAL ID CARD: KEY FEATURES EXPLAINED 1. Symbol meaning a chip is embedded in the card2. ID card number3. Citizenship. Foreign nationals in the UK are being given different cards.4. Place of birth5. Signature - digitally embedded in the card 6. Date of card issue and date it becomes invalid7. Photo taken to biometric standards 8. Biometric chip holds fingerprint record 9. Swipe zone. Information which can be automatically read by computer |
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