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| Is the new EU President a good choice? | Is the new EU President a good choice? |
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| Belgium's Herman van Rompuy is widely tipped for the presidency | Belgium's Herman van Rompuy is widely tipped for the presidency |
| EU leaders have chosen the Belgian Prime Minister, Herman van Rompuy, as their new President. Is he the best person for the job? | EU leaders have chosen the Belgian Prime Minister, Herman van Rompuy, as their new President. Is he the best person for the job? |
| Mr Van Rompuy, 62, backed by France and Germany, has a reputation as a coalition builder, having steered the divided Belgian government out of a crisis. | Mr Van Rompuy, 62, backed by France and Germany, has a reputation as a coalition builder, having steered the divided Belgian government out of a crisis. |
| He was the unanimous choice after the UK dropped its support for Tony Blair. | He was the unanimous choice after the UK dropped its support for Tony Blair. |
| The job of foreign affairs supremo has gone to the EU Trade Commissioner, Baroness Catherine Ashton from the UK. Prime Minister Gordon Brown said her appointment "gives Britain a powerful voice within the Council". | The job of foreign affairs supremo has gone to the EU Trade Commissioner, Baroness Catherine Ashton from the UK. Prime Minister Gordon Brown said her appointment "gives Britain a powerful voice within the Council". |
| What do you think of the appointments? Have the best people been chosen? Will Mr van Rompuy bring cohesion to the EU? Will he be a good representative on the world stage? Send us your comments using the form at the bottom of this page. Click here to send your comments. | What do you think of the appointments? Have the best people been chosen? Will Mr van Rompuy bring cohesion to the EU? Will he be a good representative on the world stage? Send us your comments using the form at the bottom of this page. Click here to send your comments. |
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| The leaders of France and Germany, in spite of pretending to push forward a federalist agenda, are terrified of losing influence to a more organised EU. These two unprincipled and weak people hae ensured that the President of the EU is an utter nonentity, totally incapable of dealing with the USA, China, or Russia. After all, if the EU doesn't take his position seriously, why should they?Tom, Exeter, UK | The leaders of France and Germany, in spite of pretending to push forward a federalist agenda, are terrified of losing influence to a more organised EU. These two unprincipled and weak people hae ensured that the President of the EU is an utter nonentity, totally incapable of dealing with the USA, China, or Russia. After all, if the EU doesn't take his position seriously, why should they?Tom, Exeter, UK |
| Britain is losing its 'Great'ness by being part of Europe. We pump billions of taxpayers money, into the European Union, adding more layers of sleazy politicians, and getting stupid restrictive laws in return. It is the political equivalent of Eurovision. We now have a puppet president who's strings will be pulled by Germany and France, and we haven't had a say in any of it! Where's the democracy in that?Michael Donnelly, Preston | Britain is losing its 'Great'ness by being part of Europe. We pump billions of taxpayers money, into the European Union, adding more layers of sleazy politicians, and getting stupid restrictive laws in return. It is the political equivalent of Eurovision. We now have a puppet president who's strings will be pulled by Germany and France, and we haven't had a say in any of it! Where's the democracy in that?Michael Donnelly, Preston |
| Until the voters have a chance to vote more regularly for MP's in the UK and appointments in the EU there will not be real democracy. That is why voters are so disenchanted with the politicians in the UK and in the EU. There are simply too many posts filled by appointment making not by the approval of the voting public.Allan Davies, Kings Cliffe UK | Until the voters have a chance to vote more regularly for MP's in the UK and appointments in the EU there will not be real democracy. That is why voters are so disenchanted with the politicians in the UK and in the EU. There are simply too many posts filled by appointment making not by the approval of the voting public.Allan Davies, Kings Cliffe UK |
| The choice of two unknowm, lacklustre, low profile, compromise, candidates for the top EU posts sums up the EU's lack of cohesion and dynamism. The only thing we can expect from the EU is mediocrity and that's what these choices symbolise. Archer, Dorchester | The choice of two unknowm, lacklustre, low profile, compromise, candidates for the top EU posts sums up the EU's lack of cohesion and dynamism. The only thing we can expect from the EU is mediocrity and that's what these choices symbolise. Archer, Dorchester |
| I think Baroness Ashton will make an excellent High representative for the EU. She is a woman of great ability and experience and will be breath of fresh air into the dusty world of Brussels.Stephen Deaves, Faversham | I think Baroness Ashton will make an excellent High representative for the EU. She is a woman of great ability and experience and will be breath of fresh air into the dusty world of Brussels.Stephen Deaves, Faversham |
| RIP Democracy! It does make me wonder why anyone is bothering to ask at this stage what the great unwashed think as no one asked us to vote on it. It is obvious we no longer have any say in how we are to be ruled.Anne, Gt Yarmouth, Norfolk, England (or whatever EU District it is now) | RIP Democracy! It does make me wonder why anyone is bothering to ask at this stage what the great unwashed think as no one asked us to vote on it. It is obvious we no longer have any say in how we are to be ruled.Anne, Gt Yarmouth, Norfolk, England (or whatever EU District it is now) |
| We need a new word in the English dictionary - "Eurocracy" - a tendency to appointment your mates to top positions without consulting the people who pay their salaries because in reality they have no grassroots support and many were denied the right to vote on the very existence of the institutions they are leading"Nick Britton, Cardiff | We need a new word in the English dictionary - "Eurocracy" - a tendency to appointment your mates to top positions without consulting the people who pay their salaries because in reality they have no grassroots support and many were denied the right to vote on the very existence of the institutions they are leading"Nick Britton, Cardiff |
| Anyone sponsored by France and Germany has to be treated with suspicion. These two countries still dominate Europe a Latvian President would have been better and more balanced to express objective views. Until the EU support democracy it will always be viewed negatively in the UKStephen Reimer, UK | Anyone sponsored by France and Germany has to be treated with suspicion. These two countries still dominate Europe a Latvian President would have been better and more balanced to express objective views. Until the EU support democracy it will always be viewed negatively in the UKStephen Reimer, UK |
| Seeing how I didn't even get an opportunity to vote for either of these political "representatives" I don't think they are good choices. No democracy means no mandate and means they represent no-one but the faceless bureaucrats ruling the EU. | Seeing how I didn't even get an opportunity to vote for either of these political "representatives" I don't think they are good choices. No democracy means no mandate and means they represent no-one but the faceless bureaucrats ruling the EU. |
| Considering how I didn't even get an opportunity to vote on this issue I completely reject them. I don't recognise them as a President or "Foreign Secretary". The non-democratic EU needs to be stood up to.Steve, Rochester | Considering how I didn't even get an opportunity to vote on this issue I completely reject them. I don't recognise them as a President or "Foreign Secretary". The non-democratic EU needs to be stood up to.Steve, Rochester |
| A man that few people have heard of and an unelected peer. This decision follows the bullying of Ireland into changing their 'no' vote and the rejection of what was rebranded as the Lisbon Treaty by the people of France and the Netherlands. Still, any choice is better than BlairDerek, Maidstone, England | A man that few people have heard of and an unelected peer. This decision follows the bullying of Ireland into changing their 'no' vote and the rejection of what was rebranded as the Lisbon Treaty by the people of France and the Netherlands. Still, any choice is better than BlairDerek, Maidstone, England |
| Baroness Catherine Ashton was probably the best person for the role. After all, she was unelected to anything in the UK so it makes perfect sense for her to be in another unelected role in Brussels.Simon, Stockport, England | Baroness Catherine Ashton was probably the best person for the role. After all, she was unelected to anything in the UK so it makes perfect sense for her to be in another unelected role in Brussels.Simon, Stockport, England |
| So we've got a foreign secretary with no experience of this kind of work before, only just over one year's experience in any kind of similar work, who happens to be of the Jewish faith, where the role requires interaction with the Muslim countries of the East. The Middle East may not want to deal with her because of religion. With these credentials she's not exactly a suitable candidate.Harry, Ascot | So we've got a foreign secretary with no experience of this kind of work before, only just over one year's experience in any kind of similar work, who happens to be of the Jewish faith, where the role requires interaction with the Muslim countries of the East. The Middle East may not want to deal with her because of religion. With these credentials she's not exactly a suitable candidate.Harry, Ascot |
| Firstly what a relief that Blair's private attempt to resurrect himself as God of Europe has failed and unlikely to ever happen if David Cameron wins the next election. On that I and the country can sleep easy. Can the Tories replace Ashton should the Conservatives win the General Election? Yet again like our most of our own present Government she is unelected and unwanted.Tufty, Inverurie | Firstly what a relief that Blair's private attempt to resurrect himself as God of Europe has failed and unlikely to ever happen if David Cameron wins the next election. On that I and the country can sleep easy. Can the Tories replace Ashton should the Conservatives win the General Election? Yet again like our most of our own present Government she is unelected and unwanted.Tufty, Inverurie |
| So one centre right and one centre left, and never the two will meet on equal terms. As we did not have a referendum on the Lisbon treaty (as promised), we do not actually have a say in who when and what happens in the EU. I understand Lady Ashton is another unelected person.Rays a Larf, Portsmouth | So one centre right and one centre left, and never the two will meet on equal terms. As we did not have a referendum on the Lisbon treaty (as promised), we do not actually have a say in who when and what happens in the EU. I understand Lady Ashton is another unelected person.Rays a Larf, Portsmouth |
| Typical of the EU, no reference to the European electorate. In the case of Baroness Ashton, she was not even elected in the UK. The EU is a democratic black hole. Ian Baildon, Bradford UK | Typical of the EU, no reference to the European electorate. In the case of Baroness Ashton, she was not even elected in the UK. The EU is a democratic black hole. Ian Baildon, Bradford UK |
| Who are these people? We did not vote to join the EU and we did not vote for these people. How can they just elect complete unknowns and expect us to accept them?Nick, Redhill UK | Who are these people? We did not vote to join the EU and we did not vote for these people. How can they just elect complete unknowns and expect us to accept them?Nick, Redhill UK |
| Seems to be the most suited for the job, and the fact that so few people in this country know about the new President speaks volumes about our "little England" mentality. When will we start behaving like a major European power and shape the Union, rather than sitting on the back seat moaning?Sean Robertson, London | Seems to be the most suited for the job, and the fact that so few people in this country know about the new President speaks volumes about our "little England" mentality. When will we start behaving like a major European power and shape the Union, rather than sitting on the back seat moaning?Sean Robertson, London |
| It does seem a little undemocratic to me - if it really is an important post, why aren't the public trusted with making the appointment? I do feel for Belgium, though - on the one hand you've got the pride that comes with having one of your nationals in "the top job". On the other hand, Belgium's best option for internal consensus has just gone - Flanders and Wallonia will be at each other's throats again!Mark Harrison, Canterbury, UK | It does seem a little undemocratic to me - if it really is an important post, why aren't the public trusted with making the appointment? I do feel for Belgium, though - on the one hand you've got the pride that comes with having one of your nationals in "the top job". On the other hand, Belgium's best option for internal consensus has just gone - Flanders and Wallonia will be at each other's throats again!Mark Harrison, Canterbury, UK |
| Wait and see. I see a lot of unconvinced people, but Mr van Rompuy's qualities will show very soon that things will move much better in Europe with someone who can bring consensus. Could Tony Blair have managed a government of five parties? Mr van Rompuy is more of a leader that you can imagine.Genevieve, London | Wait and see. I see a lot of unconvinced people, but Mr van Rompuy's qualities will show very soon that things will move much better in Europe with someone who can bring consensus. Could Tony Blair have managed a government of five parties? Mr van Rompuy is more of a leader that you can imagine.Genevieve, London |
| Funny use of the word 'choice' .There are over 400 million people in Europe and only a few dozen of us got any choice! We seek our democracy but alas the political elites deny us all the right of choosing whom should be 'Head of the European State! Did these fake saints and saviours make their choice after they ate their lavish pudding or did they quaff expensive brandy first? Spence, London | Funny use of the word 'choice' .There are over 400 million people in Europe and only a few dozen of us got any choice! We seek our democracy but alas the political elites deny us all the right of choosing whom should be 'Head of the European State! Did these fake saints and saviours make their choice after they ate their lavish pudding or did they quaff expensive brandy first? Spence, London |
| Mickey Mouse would have been a better choice than Blair. Thank goodness Europe gave him the finger. That the choice underlines my views on why we should keep this European superstate at arms length. | Mickey Mouse would have been a better choice than Blair. Thank goodness Europe gave him the finger. That the choice underlines my views on why we should keep this European superstate at arms length. |
| The man "in charge" is a virtual unknown - didn't hear his name in the "G" meetings - is PM in a country with very little clout, and was voted in by a small clique rather than the general populous of Europe. He was put in place as a figurehead and scapegoat for wrong decisions. Someone who can be controlled and steered by the more powerful leaders. Yes, this European quango is nothing but an elite little club and even with the British unknown next to the top man, Britain will have little influence and will just get swallowed up into this farce. Please, please, please - when the people of the UK get their chance to vote next year, look at the parties stance on Europe and think.Mark, Stevenage, UK | The man "in charge" is a virtual unknown - didn't hear his name in the "G" meetings - is PM in a country with very little clout, and was voted in by a small clique rather than the general populous of Europe. He was put in place as a figurehead and scapegoat for wrong decisions. Someone who can be controlled and steered by the more powerful leaders. Yes, this European quango is nothing but an elite little club and even with the British unknown next to the top man, Britain will have little influence and will just get swallowed up into this farce. Please, please, please - when the people of the UK get their chance to vote next year, look at the parties stance on Europe and think.Mark, Stevenage, UK |
| When will candidates to these positions be elected by Europe's public? When will Europe's public be able to replace them, if they wish, at a following election? Until this happens the EU is an undemocratic sham. I had no say in the matter, so these people are certainly not my President or Foreign Minister. How dare anyone claim that they are!Peter, Cambridge, UK | When will candidates to these positions be elected by Europe's public? When will Europe's public be able to replace them, if they wish, at a following election? Until this happens the EU is an undemocratic sham. I had no say in the matter, so these people are certainly not my President or Foreign Minister. How dare anyone claim that they are!Peter, Cambridge, UK |
| I must be in a minority but I feel you need a strong personality when dealing with the rest of the world therefore Mr Blair would have been the best choice. Can you really see Mr Van Rompuy getting an invite from the US or China? The Foreign Minster Catherine Ashton is yet another inexperienced person who will be in the slow lane with the rest of the world. So no change in the EU and France and Germany (the real EU) get their way again!Steve Grant, Ipswich | I must be in a minority but I feel you need a strong personality when dealing with the rest of the world therefore Mr Blair would have been the best choice. Can you really see Mr Van Rompuy getting an invite from the US or China? The Foreign Minster Catherine Ashton is yet another inexperienced person who will be in the slow lane with the rest of the world. So no change in the EU and France and Germany (the real EU) get their way again!Steve Grant, Ipswich |
| How can the election of anyone in Europe be satisfactory when it is made by anyone other than the people? We have completely abandoned the principles of democracy that we wage wars around the world to impose. I recognise no office or individual that I was not aloud to vote for and I never will.Tober Reilly, U.K. | How can the election of anyone in Europe be satisfactory when it is made by anyone other than the people? We have completely abandoned the principles of democracy that we wage wars around the world to impose. I recognise no office or individual that I was not aloud to vote for and I never will.Tober Reilly, U.K. |
| What a mockery the EU is. The Germans and French decide on who the candidates are before the others are allowed to choose the new president. Hardly surprising that the new president is relatively unknown. He will be easier for the Germans and French to control.Robert, Edinburgh | What a mockery the EU is. The Germans and French decide on who the candidates are before the others are allowed to choose the new president. Hardly surprising that the new president is relatively unknown. He will be easier for the Germans and French to control.Robert, Edinburgh |
| The two appointments clearly demonstrate that the real power in the EU remains elsewhere. These appointees, doubtless nice, honest persons of integrity, will simply become mouthpieces for policy generated by the behind the scenes, unaccountable brokers. Further, what I find utterly distasteful are the parroted eulogies from our political leaders present and past, Brown, Kinnock etc., for these two who received no mention prior to their appointments. Once again talking to us, the electorate, as though we are morons without minds of our own!Michael Hey, Aberdeen, Scotland | The two appointments clearly demonstrate that the real power in the EU remains elsewhere. These appointees, doubtless nice, honest persons of integrity, will simply become mouthpieces for policy generated by the behind the scenes, unaccountable brokers. Further, what I find utterly distasteful are the parroted eulogies from our political leaders present and past, Brown, Kinnock etc., for these two who received no mention prior to their appointments. Once again talking to us, the electorate, as though we are morons without minds of our own!Michael Hey, Aberdeen, Scotland |
| Good to see a British person in one of the top jobs.Laurence, Hemel Hempstead, UK | Good to see a British person in one of the top jobs.Laurence, Hemel Hempstead, UK |
| I think it is a wise choice in both appointments. Firstly, a charismatic appointment always proved to generate division and concerns so at least Mr Rompuy and Baroness Ashton will not have this burden upon them. Also, it is of dubious nature the extent of their powers and influence. In circumstances like this, given that it is a two and a half year appointment, it is always wise to appoint a low profile person in the beginning. After two and a half years, everyone will certainly know the extent of their powers and what they really can achieve and can choose either to re-elect them or to appoint someone with qualities (and more acumen) that will tie up with the job. At the moment, we can say that two relative unknown people have been appointed to two relative unknown EU Positions. It is the most adequate way to start.Jomar Pires, Walton-on-Thames | I think it is a wise choice in both appointments. Firstly, a charismatic appointment always proved to generate division and concerns so at least Mr Rompuy and Baroness Ashton will not have this burden upon them. Also, it is of dubious nature the extent of their powers and influence. In circumstances like this, given that it is a two and a half year appointment, it is always wise to appoint a low profile person in the beginning. After two and a half years, everyone will certainly know the extent of their powers and what they really can achieve and can choose either to re-elect them or to appoint someone with qualities (and more acumen) that will tie up with the job. At the moment, we can say that two relative unknown people have been appointed to two relative unknown EU Positions. It is the most adequate way to start.Jomar Pires, Walton-on-Thames |
| What a great day for democracy! Mr van Rompuy will do whatever M. Sarkozy and Frau Merkel tells him to do, which once again begs the question: why on earth do we continue to bankroll this corrupt super-state? As for "Baroness" Ashton, the only reason I did not have to Google her to find out who she was is that I had to do that when she was appointed to replace Mandelson. The best thing you can say about either of these unelected non-entities is that they will play no meaningful role in representing the people of Europe. For that we should, I suppose, be grateful. I'd be even more grateful if someone could tell us, the people, how we remove these representatives if we don't like what they're doing in our name?John S, London, England | What a great day for democracy! Mr van Rompuy will do whatever M. Sarkozy and Frau Merkel tells him to do, which once again begs the question: why on earth do we continue to bankroll this corrupt super-state? As for "Baroness" Ashton, the only reason I did not have to Google her to find out who she was is that I had to do that when she was appointed to replace Mandelson. The best thing you can say about either of these unelected non-entities is that they will play no meaningful role in representing the people of Europe. For that we should, I suppose, be grateful. I'd be even more grateful if someone could tell us, the people, how we remove these representatives if we don't like what they're doing in our name?John S, London, England |
| I am very disappointed. Europe needs strong figures at the helm in order to turn around public opinion and make us count as a united world power instead of a bunch of frankly small players (Britain very much included). This is a small-minded and selfish move by EU "leaders" not wishing to be overshadowed and still believing that their small parts can be greater than the whole. Just wait until Merkel and Sarko are out of power and see if they still think there couldn't be a French or German EU president.Mark Smith, Plymouth | I am very disappointed. Europe needs strong figures at the helm in order to turn around public opinion and make us count as a united world power instead of a bunch of frankly small players (Britain very much included). This is a small-minded and selfish move by EU "leaders" not wishing to be overshadowed and still believing that their small parts can be greater than the whole. Just wait until Merkel and Sarko are out of power and see if they still think there couldn't be a French or German EU president.Mark Smith, Plymouth |
| Not only is this an affront to us in Britain who have been denied a referendum over Lisbon and thus this nonsense. It is also an affront to democracy itself. Who elected this woman? She is a labour placeman, appointed. Voted for by nobody. What an insult to those of us who actually believe in elective democracy. And on that basis - Van Rompuy can be called anything you like. He is no President of mine.Elizabeth, St Albans England. | Not only is this an affront to us in Britain who have been denied a referendum over Lisbon and thus this nonsense. It is also an affront to democracy itself. Who elected this woman? She is a labour placeman, appointed. Voted for by nobody. What an insult to those of us who actually believe in elective democracy. And on that basis - Van Rompuy can be called anything you like. He is no President of mine.Elizabeth, St Albans England. |
| I'm just delighted that Teflon Tony was rejected. I'm not from either the Rabid Right or the Loony Left just prefer honesty to spin and the "celebrity" cult,Tom Veitch, Melrose UK | I'm just delighted that Teflon Tony was rejected. I'm not from either the Rabid Right or the Loony Left just prefer honesty to spin and the "celebrity" cult,Tom Veitch, Melrose UK |
| It is difficult to see how two virtually unknown people can help the EU to gain more political clout on the world stage. Charming as Baroness Asthton may be she has not made any significant contribution so far in the UK so it is unlikely that this will alter on the wider political stage. These appointments have all the making of a co-ordinated political fudge and very little to do with advancing the European Community.Norman Shaw, United Kingdom | It is difficult to see how two virtually unknown people can help the EU to gain more political clout on the world stage. Charming as Baroness Asthton may be she has not made any significant contribution so far in the UK so it is unlikely that this will alter on the wider political stage. These appointments have all the making of a co-ordinated political fudge and very little to do with advancing the European Community.Norman Shaw, United Kingdom |
| Its nice to see democracy in action in the EU. Baroness Ashton has never been elected to any of her governmental roles, and sits at the top of the tree. People power indeed!Chris, Milton Keynes | Its nice to see democracy in action in the EU. Baroness Ashton has never been elected to any of her governmental roles, and sits at the top of the tree. People power indeed!Chris, Milton Keynes |
| Baroness Who?S Lazenby, St Athan, Barry Wales | Baroness Who?S Lazenby, St Athan, Barry Wales |
| Having never heard of either of them tho' their profiles suggest both appear studiously uninteresting and mediocre characters I have a strong feeling that in the long term they'll emerge as puppets.J.Cowell, Braintree England | Having never heard of either of them tho' their profiles suggest both appear studiously uninteresting and mediocre characters I have a strong feeling that in the long term they'll emerge as puppets.J.Cowell, Braintree England |
| Weak names for a weak Europe... No wonder the US government is pleased. When will our politicians be ready to give up national power and pursue European interests?Max,UK | Weak names for a weak Europe... No wonder the US government is pleased. When will our politicians be ready to give up national power and pursue European interests?Max,UK |
| They seem to want bureaucrats for bureaucratic jobs. These two hardly appear to be inspirational movers and shakers which might have enthused us all. The European wheels will no doubt keep grinding along at a snails pace.Terry Hillier, Kingston-upon-Thames | They seem to want bureaucrats for bureaucratic jobs. These two hardly appear to be inspirational movers and shakers which might have enthused us all. The European wheels will no doubt keep grinding along at a snails pace.Terry Hillier, Kingston-upon-Thames |
| Any stable political union must be both legitimate and effective. Its hard to see either of these qualities manifest in these two appointments. Its ironic that in an attempt to try and buy time for consolidation Europe by failing to attend to its political foundation may well precipitate something of a crises. Michael Wood, London UK | Any stable political union must be both legitimate and effective. Its hard to see either of these qualities manifest in these two appointments. Its ironic that in an attempt to try and buy time for consolidation Europe by failing to attend to its political foundation may well precipitate something of a crises. Michael Wood, London UK |
| They're the right people because they were elected from a consesus of our leaders. It reflects EU's commitment as a bloc. Kevin Jason, Manchester,UK | They're the right people because they were elected from a consesus of our leaders. It reflects EU's commitment as a bloc. Kevin Jason, Manchester,UK |
| For some reason I did not receive my ballot paper to vote for the new EU president. I am pretty sure that in the rest of the world including the USA, Russia and even Afghanistan presidents are voted for. Therefore in my eyes the president of Europe does not represent me as he was just elected by a bunch of cronies in Europe who I am not sure that I elected either. And come to think of it is Baroness Ashton elected either?Dave James, Southam, England | For some reason I did not receive my ballot paper to vote for the new EU president. I am pretty sure that in the rest of the world including the USA, Russia and even Afghanistan presidents are voted for. Therefore in my eyes the president of Europe does not represent me as he was just elected by a bunch of cronies in Europe who I am not sure that I elected either. And come to think of it is Baroness Ashton elected either?Dave James, Southam, England |
| I believe that both appointments are good for the EU. Mr Van Rompuy is no stranger to consensus politics and we can look forward to a positive, non-controversial front-man for the EU, who can follow through on the direction/s set by the member states. Baroness Ashton is a sound appointment in the Foreign Affairs arena where quiet diplomacy is far more important than grand-standing for the masses.Dave Aspeling, The Hague, The Netherlands | |
| Thank you, Owen, Malvern, Worcestershire, for your wise, rational, objective and, in my opinion, correct analysis of the current EU situation. At last someone from the UK who is able to see the benefits of Herman Van Rompuy as a low-profile president of the EU. Look at what the man has already achieved before you call his appointment a travesty.Caroline, Waterloo, Belgium | |
| I can't speak about Baroness Ashton because I don't know enough about her. I have no idea, for example, why or how she became a baroness. I have no idea what her roles in the labour party have been, nor whether or not she was implicated in the expenses scandal. My opinion of the current labour government, however, does not make me want to voice enthusiasm.Jess Foreman, Paris, France | |
| This is all rubish and for the benefit of the EU political class who has no relation to the ordinary citizens of the EU member states. Ashton, without any foreign policy experience becoming the head of EU foreign affairs department. What a bad joke. My cat is better qualified. John Delaware, Warsaw | |
| So they've nominated a couple of time servers to keep the seats warm until Sarkozy and Merkel are ready to take over? In any case, the appointment of two unknowns will do nothing for Europe - even though a lot of people despise him, Tony Blair would at least have brought international stature to the job.Neville Collins, Paris, France | So they've nominated a couple of time servers to keep the seats warm until Sarkozy and Merkel are ready to take over? In any case, the appointment of two unknowns will do nothing for Europe - even though a lot of people despise him, Tony Blair would at least have brought international stature to the job.Neville Collins, Paris, France |
| As a British citizen, living in Belgium, I can say, from my own experience, that Van Rompuy shall make a very good EU president. I have often watched him in the media and in the Belgium federal parliament. He 'is' a statesman and a gentleman, with a sharp brain. His recent role as the first minister in Belgium speaks for itself. Europe is in a safe pair of hands. I wish him every success, and wish that we British would be a little less narrow minded towards our European partners. We should remember that the bodies of many of our fellow countrymen still lie 'in Flander's fields', and of the historical connections between Britain and the Low Countries.Dr. J.Gribbin, Westerlo, Belgium | As a British citizen, living in Belgium, I can say, from my own experience, that Van Rompuy shall make a very good EU president. I have often watched him in the media and in the Belgium federal parliament. He 'is' a statesman and a gentleman, with a sharp brain. His recent role as the first minister in Belgium speaks for itself. Europe is in a safe pair of hands. I wish him every success, and wish that we British would be a little less narrow minded towards our European partners. We should remember that the bodies of many of our fellow countrymen still lie 'in Flander's fields', and of the historical connections between Britain and the Low Countries.Dr. J.Gribbin, Westerlo, Belgium |
| So Trade Commissioner Cathy Ashton becomes EU Foreign Representative. Remember who was Trade Commissioner until a year ago? But for another of Gordon Brown's incomprehensible moves, we could now have had Lord Mandelson as the EU's Foreign Minister...Rob, Hilversum, The Netherlands | So Trade Commissioner Cathy Ashton becomes EU Foreign Representative. Remember who was Trade Commissioner until a year ago? But for another of Gordon Brown's incomprehensible moves, we could now have had Lord Mandelson as the EU's Foreign Minister...Rob, Hilversum, The Netherlands |
| If you're able to keep Belgium together for a few months, you're pretty much capable of anything. That shows strength and coherence, no matter what you think of the guy. And so what if he is "unknown"? All the better. Had it been Blair or Sarkozy or whoever like that, I would have moved to Mexico. I'm just sad that we've lost the best PM we've had in a while.Isabelle Bischop, Brussels, Belgium | If you're able to keep Belgium together for a few months, you're pretty much capable of anything. That shows strength and coherence, no matter what you think of the guy. And so what if he is "unknown"? All the better. Had it been Blair or Sarkozy or whoever like that, I would have moved to Mexico. I'm just sad that we've lost the best PM we've had in a while.Isabelle Bischop, Brussels, Belgium |
| "Baroness Ashton, currently EU Trade Commissioner, said she was "slightly surprised but... deeply privileged". How could it be? These words mean that she has been suggested at the last moment. Here I agree with Vaira-Vike Freiberga saying that the procedure of the selection of the top EU officials reminds the Soviet-style clandestine procedure. That means that the EU Council, that is, heads of our countries, did not even try to consult with the wider public. What about the official nomination procedure? Only Latvia said it openly that we nominate Vaira-Vike Freiberga. I am deeply frustrated with the procedure. If this continues, the anti-EU feeling will grow!Irina Ivaskina, Riga, Latvia | "Baroness Ashton, currently EU Trade Commissioner, said she was "slightly surprised but... deeply privileged". How could it be? These words mean that she has been suggested at the last moment. Here I agree with Vaira-Vike Freiberga saying that the procedure of the selection of the top EU officials reminds the Soviet-style clandestine procedure. That means that the EU Council, that is, heads of our countries, did not even try to consult with the wider public. What about the official nomination procedure? Only Latvia said it openly that we nominate Vaira-Vike Freiberga. I am deeply frustrated with the procedure. If this continues, the anti-EU feeling will grow!Irina Ivaskina, Riga, Latvia |
| Given that the EU is not a federal State, unlike the USA or Russia, but a fairly loose union of sovereign countries, the role of the President and the "Foreign Minister" can only be that of a coordinator and consensual manager, 2.5 years in post instead of the current 6 months, thereby providing better continuity. That should allay fears of a "United States of Europe" Mike, Warsaw, Poland | Given that the EU is not a federal State, unlike the USA or Russia, but a fairly loose union of sovereign countries, the role of the President and the "Foreign Minister" can only be that of a coordinator and consensual manager, 2.5 years in post instead of the current 6 months, thereby providing better continuity. That should allay fears of a "United States of Europe" Mike, Warsaw, Poland |
| As a Belgian, I think the appointment of PM Herman Van Rompuy as the first President of Europe is, of course, an honour. But at the same time I think it's not a good thing for our country. Who's going to be the new PM? Will there be new elections again? Lots of questions. Once again "political chaos" in Belgium. Stijn Vlaeminck, Ghent, Belgium | As a Belgian, I think the appointment of PM Herman Van Rompuy as the first President of Europe is, of course, an honour. But at the same time I think it's not a good thing for our country. Who's going to be the new PM? Will there be new elections again? Lots of questions. Once again "political chaos" in Belgium. Stijn Vlaeminck, Ghent, Belgium |
| It seems to me that Brussels is busy 'keeping it in the family' so that the Commission can quietly continue it's economic agenda under the guidance of its bedfellows, the corporate lobbyists. The one hope that I have is that Baroness Ashton won't be a 'puppy' and that she will be true to her roots and will stick up for the rights and the needs of disadvantaged (both inside Europe and in Europe's trading partners) in the face of an ever-more 'Corporate Europe'. But the Machiavellian mechanisms behind the doors of the Commission do not leave me with much hope.Alan Searle, Cologne, Germany | It seems to me that Brussels is busy 'keeping it in the family' so that the Commission can quietly continue it's economic agenda under the guidance of its bedfellows, the corporate lobbyists. The one hope that I have is that Baroness Ashton won't be a 'puppy' and that she will be true to her roots and will stick up for the rights and the needs of disadvantaged (both inside Europe and in Europe's trading partners) in the face of an ever-more 'Corporate Europe'. But the Machiavellian mechanisms behind the doors of the Commission do not leave me with much hope.Alan Searle, Cologne, Germany |
| It is not just a wasted opportunity, but a deliberately avoided opportunity. The EU needs heavy hitters who can work with - and if necessary square up to - Obama, Putin et al. It is bad enough that the role of the President of the Council was watered down, but to appoint a nice, bland, international nonentity signals that Europe does not want to be a world power.Glossa, Glossa Greece | It is not just a wasted opportunity, but a deliberately avoided opportunity. The EU needs heavy hitters who can work with - and if necessary square up to - Obama, Putin et al. It is bad enough that the role of the President of the Council was watered down, but to appoint a nice, bland, international nonentity signals that Europe does not want to be a world power.Glossa, Glossa Greece |
| This is a major beat of old Europe against the New Europe. Tony Blair was best fitted for the strong and new Europe president. The vote was for weak European Union.Danail Kossev, Sofia, Bulgaria | This is a major beat of old Europe against the New Europe. Tony Blair was best fitted for the strong and new Europe president. The vote was for weak European Union.Danail Kossev, Sofia, Bulgaria |
| I was surprised with the appointment of Baroness Ashton to the position of EU foreign affairs supremo. Britain has not fully adopted EU and refuses to use Euro as the common currency, is more friendly with US than EU, feels superior and thinks has superior legal and other policies than EU, does not fully support the Lisbon treaty. How could then a British representative support such a post in the EU? I wonder if she will put British interest over EU interest in fulfilling her role.Sonia Abrahamian, Limassol, Cyprus | I was surprised with the appointment of Baroness Ashton to the position of EU foreign affairs supremo. Britain has not fully adopted EU and refuses to use Euro as the common currency, is more friendly with US than EU, feels superior and thinks has superior legal and other policies than EU, does not fully support the Lisbon treaty. How could then a British representative support such a post in the EU? I wonder if she will put British interest over EU interest in fulfilling her role.Sonia Abrahamian, Limassol, Cyprus |
| Who are these people? They have only been chosen because they will not overshadow Mr. Sarkozy or Mrs Merkel!Patricia, St Genis Laval, France | Who are these people? They have only been chosen because they will not overshadow Mr. Sarkozy or Mrs Merkel!Patricia, St Genis Laval, France |
| The appointed persons are relatvely unknown in Europe and seem to lack even moderate carisma, therby suiting the Frensh, German and Italian leaders well, who now will run no risk of being put in the shadow by a strong, competent and carismatic EU leader team.Bjorn Gustbee, Jomala, Finland | The appointed persons are relatvely unknown in Europe and seem to lack even moderate carisma, therby suiting the Frensh, German and Italian leaders well, who now will run no risk of being put in the shadow by a strong, competent and carismatic EU leader team.Bjorn Gustbee, Jomala, Finland |
| Von Rumpoy will use Belgium as his model for turning Europe into an efficient, modern federal state.Richard Russell, Eynatten, Belgium | Von Rumpoy will use Belgium as his model for turning Europe into an efficient, modern federal state.Richard Russell, Eynatten, Belgium |
| Yes, the best people have been chosen. Herman Van Rompuy isn't just a politician, he's a wise man too. He governs to united and doesn't put his own wishes first. Tony Blair didn't stand a chance. Imagine a President for Europe who doesn't back up the Euro. No one I spoke here could accept this. The United Kingdom can't rule Europe, using the British currency: the pound sterling. It may rule the waves, but in order to rule Europe, it needs to back up the European currency: the Euro.Sandy Vanderzee, Koksijde Belgium | Yes, the best people have been chosen. Herman Van Rompuy isn't just a politician, he's a wise man too. He governs to united and doesn't put his own wishes first. Tony Blair didn't stand a chance. Imagine a President for Europe who doesn't back up the Euro. No one I spoke here could accept this. The United Kingdom can't rule Europe, using the British currency: the pound sterling. It may rule the waves, but in order to rule Europe, it needs to back up the European currency: the Euro.Sandy Vanderzee, Koksijde Belgium |
| As a Turkish Citizen of Europe, it is very dissapointing to hear that Mr. Van Rompuy is chosen as the Leader of EU. It is a compromise not meant to fill in a leadership role. He is a known conservative with religious prejiduces. What the world needs is a strong liberal, inclusive EU. Not one with a figure head. | As a Turkish Citizen of Europe, it is very dissapointing to hear that Mr. Van Rompuy is chosen as the Leader of EU. It is a compromise not meant to fill in a leadership role. He is a known conservative with religious prejiduces. What the world needs is a strong liberal, inclusive EU. Not one with a figure head. |
| Bertan Atalay, The Hauge | Bertan Atalay, The Hauge |
| With the eventual accession of Turkey in EU notwithstanding existing difficulties, EU is expected to have a strong voice and influence in islamic world and Asia. Being known to be adamantly opposed to the membership of Turkey in EU, Mr.Van Rompuy's election to EU Presidency may have a setback to EU's evolving into a real world power. Ayhan Atay Kamel, Istanbul-TURKEY | With the eventual accession of Turkey in EU notwithstanding existing difficulties, EU is expected to have a strong voice and influence in islamic world and Asia. Being known to be adamantly opposed to the membership of Turkey in EU, Mr.Van Rompuy's election to EU Presidency may have a setback to EU's evolving into a real world power. Ayhan Atay Kamel, Istanbul-TURKEY |
| We, who turned our faces towards west and working hard to meet with EU pre requisitions in order to access to Union and be a part of the civilised world since years are very much disappointed with this decision. Let's hope van Rompuy will stay distant to his previously declared conservative mindset. We will carry on working on our duty, but I suspect this step from EU will have a negative influence on the Turkish citizen's perception of Union's sincerity on seeing us a full member.Altan Bekat, Izmir - Turkey | We, who turned our faces towards west and working hard to meet with EU pre requisitions in order to access to Union and be a part of the civilised world since years are very much disappointed with this decision. Let's hope van Rompuy will stay distant to his previously declared conservative mindset. We will carry on working on our duty, but I suspect this step from EU will have a negative influence on the Turkish citizen's perception of Union's sincerity on seeing us a full member.Altan Bekat, Izmir - Turkey |
| Van Rompuy is an excellent choice, for he is capable if thinking inclusively, rather than exclusively. Apart from many other qualities, this one is essential for the EU president.brede kristensen, Bucharest, Rumania | Van Rompuy is an excellent choice, for he is capable if thinking inclusively, rather than exclusively. Apart from many other qualities, this one is essential for the EU president.brede kristensen, Bucharest, Rumania |
| Great deal! I think the EU leaders have achieved a good balance amid a lot of sophisticated problem that so long had barred way of European Union to the 'world economic and political superpower' that in future would be able to compete with the US, China and Japan.Sincerely. LeonidLeoid Reshodko, Kyiv, Ukraine | Great deal! I think the EU leaders have achieved a good balance amid a lot of sophisticated problem that so long had barred way of European Union to the 'world economic and political superpower' that in future would be able to compete with the US, China and Japan.Sincerely. LeonidLeoid Reshodko, Kyiv, Ukraine |
| The choice of Mr Herman Van Rompuy as president of European Council is an excellent one!!! The choice of Mrs Catherine Ashton seems a good one as well. A good compromise, the Belgian way.Giovanni Temporin, Fleurus(Charleroi) Belgium | The choice of Mr Herman Van Rompuy as president of European Council is an excellent one!!! The choice of Mrs Catherine Ashton seems a good one as well. A good compromise, the Belgian way.Giovanni Temporin, Fleurus(Charleroi) Belgium |
| I think Van Rompuy was a good choice for the presidency. The EU president can only speak about a topic when the member states have reached a consensus on the common position. A charismatic president is useless when he isn't allowed to speak. I believe the chance of reaching such a common position is the highest with Van Rompuy in charge.Cedric, Kortrijk, Belgium | I think Van Rompuy was a good choice for the presidency. The EU president can only speak about a topic when the member states have reached a consensus on the common position. A charismatic president is useless when he isn't allowed to speak. I believe the chance of reaching such a common position is the highest with Van Rompuy in charge.Cedric, Kortrijk, Belgium |
| It is a travesty, both President and Foreign Secretary, and makes a mockery of the Lisbon Treaty. However it does show that Cameron is right about Europe and vindicates his parties move to the right and away from the centre of EU politics. Quite what message it sends to America and China about Europe's role in International Affairs I shudder to think.Ken, Kilrush, Ireland | It is a travesty, both President and Foreign Secretary, and makes a mockery of the Lisbon Treaty. However it does show that Cameron is right about Europe and vindicates his parties move to the right and away from the centre of EU politics. Quite what message it sends to America and China about Europe's role in International Affairs I shudder to think.Ken, Kilrush, Ireland |
| Yes Mr Van Rompuy is good choice.Nicu, Iasi, Romania | Yes Mr Van Rompuy is good choice.Nicu, Iasi, Romania |
| Tony Blair wanted the job but the Europeans did not want him. Mr Van Rompuy may not be the best person for the job, but he is a full member of the European Union. Unlike the UK, the Euro and open borders are two common areas that are better served by a member country. Next time around, if the UK wants the job, they should embrace those policies. Anonymous | Tony Blair wanted the job but the Europeans did not want him. Mr Van Rompuy may not be the best person for the job, but he is a full member of the European Union. Unlike the UK, the Euro and open borders are two common areas that are better served by a member country. Next time around, if the UK wants the job, they should embrace those policies. Anonymous |
| Yes, I think it is a good choice- Herman van Rompuy is PM of a country which is at the very heart of Europe, where the EU Parliament is located. He will be very well informed and up-to-date on everything to do with how the European Union works, and is in a good position to make intelligent and educated decisions about how Europe's laws and systems work. He'll also be an excellent position to represent Europe at the very top levels of international affairs- FAR better than the war criminal Tony Blair, who's reputation and credibility is in tatters in most nations of the world.Owen, Malvern, Worcestershire | Yes, I think it is a good choice- Herman van Rompuy is PM of a country which is at the very heart of Europe, where the EU Parliament is located. He will be very well informed and up-to-date on everything to do with how the European Union works, and is in a good position to make intelligent and educated decisions about how Europe's laws and systems work. He'll also be an excellent position to represent Europe at the very top levels of international affairs- FAR better than the war criminal Tony Blair, who's reputation and credibility is in tatters in most nations of the world.Owen, Malvern, Worcestershire |
| Firstly, I thank all the gods that the odious Blair isn't back. Having said that, this is typical of the EU elite. Decisions about the most important offices made secretly behind closed doors by the "In crowd". One of the new incumbents has never been elected to anything. This travesty is completely undemocratic and shameful. Many years ago I thought I was voting in favour of a European free trade area. They lied to us then and they are still lying to us now. Chris, Ceredigion | Firstly, I thank all the gods that the odious Blair isn't back. Having said that, this is typical of the EU elite. Decisions about the most important offices made secretly behind closed doors by the "In crowd". One of the new incumbents has never been elected to anything. This travesty is completely undemocratic and shameful. Many years ago I thought I was voting in favour of a European free trade area. They lied to us then and they are still lying to us now. Chris, Ceredigion |
| Anybody but Tony Blair and Sarkozy.Mary, Iowa City, Iowa | Anybody but Tony Blair and Sarkozy.Mary, Iowa City, Iowa |
| I personally would much have preferred to see Vaira Vike-Freiberga, former President of Latvia, as the President of the European Council. First of all, she speaks four languages, in addition to her native one, fluently, five in total, and since one aspect of the presidency is a sort of "Chairman"-like role, that would be a good asset, secondly she's a woman, there's way too few women in top EU posts. And thirdly she's from one of the newer member states.Troels, Silkeborg, Denmark | I personally would much have preferred to see Vaira Vike-Freiberga, former President of Latvia, as the President of the European Council. First of all, she speaks four languages, in addition to her native one, fluently, five in total, and since one aspect of the presidency is a sort of "Chairman"-like role, that would be a good asset, secondly she's a woman, there's way too few women in top EU posts. And thirdly she's from one of the newer member states.Troels, Silkeborg, Denmark |
| This just proves what a waste of time the EU is. Choosing a weak man, who is unknown and has no clout in the world. This position demanded a strong person who could stand up and challenge the Chinese and the Americans. It justifies my reasons for Not being interested in the EU! Rubbish!John, Derby, UK | This just proves what a waste of time the EU is. Choosing a weak man, who is unknown and has no clout in the world. This position demanded a strong person who could stand up and challenge the Chinese and the Americans. It justifies my reasons for Not being interested in the EU! Rubbish!John, Derby, UK |
| A disaster for Europe - as could be expected. Small-minded, internal focus has won the day after all. If anything positive is to come from this, is could be that is leaves the field open for Euro-sceptics to wonder what the EU member states are really after: a role on the international stage or merely someone to chair endless meetings on how taxpayers money is being wasted.Adrie, London, UK | A disaster for Europe - as could be expected. Small-minded, internal focus has won the day after all. If anything positive is to come from this, is could be that is leaves the field open for Euro-sceptics to wonder what the EU member states are really after: a role on the international stage or merely someone to chair endless meetings on how taxpayers money is being wasted.Adrie, London, UK |
| I feel the right choices have been made, since neither bring a lot confrontational baggage with them, they will I think draw the Union closer together, & provide, a steady calm approach, they will bring differing skills,& balance, to a difficult arena of politic's for anyone to operate in, their appointment's brought about a rare event, that of unity, amongst the council, an event in itself.Michael, Yorkshire, UK | I feel the right choices have been made, since neither bring a lot confrontational baggage with them, they will I think draw the Union closer together, & provide, a steady calm approach, they will bring differing skills,& balance, to a difficult arena of politic's for anyone to operate in, their appointment's brought about a rare event, that of unity, amongst the council, an event in itself.Michael, Yorkshire, UK |
| Just as long as it wasn't Blair. When I heard he hadn't got the job, I cheered.Margaret Nelson, Ipswich, UK | Just as long as it wasn't Blair. When I heard he hadn't got the job, I cheered.Margaret Nelson, Ipswich, UK |
| Another closed door appointment bureaucratic appointment. British troops fighting for democracy in Afghanistan and we cannot even have a vote here!Travs Valar, London | Another closed door appointment bureaucratic appointment. British troops fighting for democracy in Afghanistan and we cannot even have a vote here!Travs Valar, London |
| Seems to me a good balance, centre right and centre left cannot fault it, all with a good background and None -Seeking Glory Good solid Choice, Steady movements are required to consolidate the expanded EU With care on overseas policy. No snap decisions on these matters. Too much of that from the UK.WA Froud , Letchworth, Herts | Seems to me a good balance, centre right and centre left cannot fault it, all with a good background and None -Seeking Glory Good solid Choice, Steady movements are required to consolidate the expanded EU With care on overseas policy. No snap decisions on these matters. Too much of that from the UK.WA Froud , Letchworth, Herts |
| Is the new EU President a good choice? What choice? I did not have a say in choosing him. I did not have a say in whether there should be a president at all, I did not have a say in whether there should be a European Union, I do recall my parents having a say in choosing to join something called a Common Market, So I ask again, What choice?Sarah, London, UK | Is the new EU President a good choice? What choice? I did not have a say in choosing him. I did not have a say in whether there should be a president at all, I did not have a say in whether there should be a European Union, I do recall my parents having a say in choosing to join something called a Common Market, So I ask again, What choice?Sarah, London, UK |
| A complete and utter farce - a total EU stitch up. How are we meant to take these people seriously. Come on - anyone actually heard of them until now? About as much democracy as my cat can wield... i.e. zilch. Time to head for the door marked EXIT.N Henry, Weybridge, Surrey | A complete and utter farce - a total EU stitch up. How are we meant to take these people seriously. Come on - anyone actually heard of them until now? About as much democracy as my cat can wield... i.e. zilch. Time to head for the door marked EXIT.N Henry, Weybridge, Surrey |
| The best top level appointments are necessarily based on the proven, and potential, ability to make and maintain relationships that will serve the best interests of the organization and all of its members. What support the chosen individuals have, and the quality of their staff and advisors, is a factor in any such decision. It appears that the EU Council had those factors in mind when the selections were made. Certainly a better system than popular public election where charismatic dictators and demagogues, partly platforms, and the inept and unproven can sell themselves to a naive public, gaining power that they should not ever have. The roles in question are not starter jobs, with long learning curves, as is the case in some similar situations in some countries, but instead senior leadership roles that require experience.Bob, Hamilton, Canada | The best top level appointments are necessarily based on the proven, and potential, ability to make and maintain relationships that will serve the best interests of the organization and all of its members. What support the chosen individuals have, and the quality of their staff and advisors, is a factor in any such decision. It appears that the EU Council had those factors in mind when the selections were made. Certainly a better system than popular public election where charismatic dictators and demagogues, partly platforms, and the inept and unproven can sell themselves to a naive public, gaining power that they should not ever have. The roles in question are not starter jobs, with long learning curves, as is the case in some similar situations in some countries, but instead senior leadership roles that require experience.Bob, Hamilton, Canada |
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