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John Swinney apologises to travellers for 'Tinker Experiment' | John Swinney apologises to travellers for 'Tinker Experiment' |
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John Swinney said sorry in a statement to the Scottish Parliament | John Swinney said sorry in a statement to the Scottish Parliament |
First Minister John Swinney has apologised for a state-sanctioned social experiment on Scotland's Gypsy Travellers. | First Minister John Swinney has apologised for a state-sanctioned social experiment on Scotland's Gypsy Travellers. |
In what is known as the "Tinker Experiments", which ran from the 1940s to 1980s, authorities aimed to "settle" travellers by forcing them to leave their lives on the road for permanent settlements. | In what is known as the "Tinker Experiments", which ran from the 1940s to 1980s, authorities aimed to "settle" travellers by forcing them to leave their lives on the road for permanent settlements. |
It involved parents being threatened with having their children taken from them and put into care if they refused to leave their settlements on roadsides. | It involved parents being threatened with having their children taken from them and put into care if they refused to leave their settlements on roadsides. |
Swinney said sorry for the "injustice and prejudice" of the historic policies, the impact of which he said was still felt today. | Swinney said sorry for the "injustice and prejudice" of the historic policies, the impact of which he said was still felt today. |
'Unfair and unjust' | 'Unfair and unjust' |
In a statement to parliament, the first minister said: "It falls to this government to state without ambiguity that what happened to Gypsy Traveller communities was unacceptable. | In a statement to parliament, the first minister said: "It falls to this government to state without ambiguity that what happened to Gypsy Traveller communities was unacceptable. |
"It is clear to the government that stark prejudice and lack of cultural awareness led to a series of unfair and unjust policies. | "It is clear to the government that stark prejudice and lack of cultural awareness led to a series of unfair and unjust policies. |
"These policies resulted in children being removed from their families and families were forced to live in sub-standard accommodation and degrading conditions." | "These policies resulted in children being removed from their families and families were forced to live in sub-standard accommodation and degrading conditions." |
Swinney told MSPs: "The Tinker Experiments should not have happened. Those policies were wrong and we recognise it is still hurting so many today." | Swinney told MSPs: "The Tinker Experiments should not have happened. Those policies were wrong and we recognise it is still hurting so many today." |
He added: "On behalf of Scotland, we are sorry." | He added: "On behalf of Scotland, we are sorry." |
Swinney's statement coincided with the publication of an independent report by academics at the University of St Andrews into the experiments. | |
One of the report's authors, Prof Ali Watson, told BBC Scotland News a range of policies had led to discrimination and dehumanisation, amounting to "cultural genocide" against Gypsy Travellers. | |
The report, commissioned by Holyrood ministers, found that the UK government's Scottish Office, as well as churches, charities, local authorities and police, were complicit in facilitating forced assimilation, resettlement and the removal of children. | |
The academics said this involved traveller children being placed into care, forced to attend industrial schools or adopted by non-traveller families in Scotland and overseas. | The academics said this involved traveller children being placed into care, forced to attend industrial schools or adopted by non-traveller families in Scotland and overseas. |
The report recommend that the Scottish government, as the body now responsible for the issue, gives an apology and considers paying compensation to those affected. | The report recommend that the Scottish government, as the body now responsible for the issue, gives an apology and considers paying compensation to those affected. |
Davie Donaldson has explored the report findings in a new BBC podcast | Davie Donaldson has explored the report findings in a new BBC podcast |
The university report's findings have been explored in a BBC podcast called The Cruelty - Stolen Generations, presented by Davie Donaldson, who comes from the traveller community. | |
He told BBC Scotland News: "The belief was that if older travellers were forcibly settled, they would forget about their culture. | He told BBC Scotland News: "The belief was that if older travellers were forcibly settled, they would forget about their culture. |
"And as the generations went on the younger travellers could be boarded out or placed in institutions and be brought up as non-travellers, and by doing that they would eradicate the culture. | "And as the generations went on the younger travellers could be boarded out or placed in institutions and be brought up as non-travellers, and by doing that they would eradicate the culture. |
"It really is a really dark period in Scottish history and one that sadly few people have heard of until today." | "It really is a really dark period in Scottish history and one that sadly few people have heard of until today." |
Members of Scotland's traveller community have been campaigning for an apology for their treatment for years. | Members of Scotland's traveller community have been campaigning for an apology for their treatment for years. |
Efforts to "assimilate" travellers into Scottish society were first documented in the late 1800s, with the authorities aiming to force them into "normal" housing. | Efforts to "assimilate" travellers into Scottish society were first documented in the late 1800s, with the authorities aiming to force them into "normal" housing. |
Gypsy Travellers were settled on sites across Scotland, including in Aberdeenshire, Argyll, Highlands, Perthshire, Fife and the Borders. | Gypsy Travellers were settled on sites across Scotland, including in Aberdeenshire, Argyll, Highlands, Perthshire, Fife and the Borders. |
It is not know precisely how many were forced from this life, or how many children were forcibly removed. | It is not know precisely how many were forced from this life, or how many children were forcibly removed. |
Martha Stewart was taken from her family's traveller camp when she was a baby | |
Martha Stewart, 67, was forcibly removed from a Scottish traveller camp when she was six months old and eventually adopted by a non-traveller family. | |
Speaking ahead of the statement, Ms Stewart said she would be "very happy" with a formal apology "because it would mean to me that they actually acknowledge that it happened". | |
She told BBC Scotland News: "You are talking about families being ripped apart." | |
Ms Stewart added: "It's part of your identity and it was taken away from you. | |
"And if you don't find it, or can't find it ever, part of you is missing." | |
Scottish Conservative MSP Alexander Stewart welcomed the "long overdue" apology. | |
He questioned why it had taken so long and asked if the government was considering compensation for those affected by the experiments. | |
Labour's Paul O'Kane also welcomed the statement, apologised on behalf of his party and called for clarity on financial redress. | |
Swinney said the government did not have immediate plans for a redress scheme but added ministers would engage further with the traveller community. |