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Obvious Labour leadership wants me out, Diane Abbott tells BBC | Obvious Labour leadership wants me out, Diane Abbott tells BBC |
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MP Diane Abbott has said it is "is obvious this Labour leadership wants me out" after the party suspended her for a second time over comments she made about racism. | |
Labour has launched an investigation into Abbott's defence of a 2023 letter in which she said people of colour experienced racism "all their lives", which was different from the "prejudice" experienced by Jewish people, Irish people and Travellers. | |
She apologised for those remarks at the time following criticism from Jewish and Traveller groups and was readmitted to the party after a lengthy suspension. | |
Asked by the BBC's James Naughtie if she looked back on the whole incident with regret, she said: "No, not at all." | Asked by the BBC's James Naughtie if she looked back on the whole incident with regret, she said: "No, not at all." |
In a brief statement issued to BBC Newsnight, Abott said: "My comments in the interview with James Naughtie were factually correct, as any fair-minded person would accept." | |
In her interview with Naughtie, she said: "Clearly, there must be a difference between racism which is about colour and other types of racism, because you can see a Traveller or a Jewish person walking down the street, you don't know. | |
"You don't know unless you stop to speak to them or you're in a meeting with them. | "You don't know unless you stop to speak to them or you're in a meeting with them. |
"But if you see a black person walking down the street, you see straight away that they're black. They are different types of racism." | "But if you see a black person walking down the street, you see straight away that they're black. They are different types of racism." |
She added: "I just think that it's silly to try and claim that racism which is about skin colour is the same as other types of racism." | She added: "I just think that it's silly to try and claim that racism which is about skin colour is the same as other types of racism." |
Abbott posted a clip online of her BBC interview after news of her suspension emerged, writing only: "This is the clip of my interview." | |
She did not respond to requests for comment at that time. | |
The latest suspension means the Hackney North and Stoke Newington MP will sit as an independent MP, known as losing the whip, pending an investigation into her remarks. | |
Labour said it would not be commenting "while this investigation is ongoing". | |
Deputy Prime Minister Angela Rayner told the Guardian newspaper: "There's no place for antisemitism in the Labour Party, and obviously the Labour Party has processes for that. | Deputy Prime Minister Angela Rayner told the Guardian newspaper: "There's no place for antisemitism in the Labour Party, and obviously the Labour Party has processes for that. |
"Diane had reflected on how she'd put that article together, and said that 'was not supposed to be the version', and now to double down and say 'Well, actually I didn't mean that. I actually meant what I originally said', I think is a real challenge." | "Diane had reflected on how she'd put that article together, and said that 'was not supposed to be the version', and now to double down and say 'Well, actually I didn't mean that. I actually meant what I originally said', I think is a real challenge." |
Former Labour shadow chancellor John McDonnell posted on X to defend his colleague. | Former Labour shadow chancellor John McDonnell posted on X to defend his colleague. |
He said: "Before people, including Labour Party spokespersons, comment or decide upon Diane Abbott's fate, could I suggest that they actually listen to Diane's interview on BBC Reflections in which she forthrightly condemns antisemitism & discusses the different forms of racism." | He said: "Before people, including Labour Party spokespersons, comment or decide upon Diane Abbott's fate, could I suggest that they actually listen to Diane's interview on BBC Reflections in which she forthrightly condemns antisemitism & discusses the different forms of racism." |
In her BBC interview, Abbott was asked if she would condemn antisemitic behaviour in the same way she would racist behaviour against someone because of the colour of their skin. | In her BBC interview, Abbott was asked if she would condemn antisemitic behaviour in the same way she would racist behaviour against someone because of the colour of their skin. |
She replied: "Well of course, and I do get a bit weary of people trying to pin the antisemitic label on me because I've spent a lifetime fighting racism of all kinds and in particular fighting antisemitism, partly because of the nature of my constituency." | She replied: "Well of course, and I do get a bit weary of people trying to pin the antisemitic label on me because I've spent a lifetime fighting racism of all kinds and in particular fighting antisemitism, partly because of the nature of my constituency." |
The Hackney North and Stoke Newington MP is the longest-serving female MP in the Commons, having entered Parliament in 1987. | The Hackney North and Stoke Newington MP is the longest-serving female MP in the Commons, having entered Parliament in 1987. |
She said she was "grateful" to be a Labour MP in the BBC interview, but that she was sure the party leadership had been "trying to get me out". | She said she was "grateful" to be a Labour MP in the BBC interview, but that she was sure the party leadership had been "trying to get me out". |
Listen to James Naughtie's interview with Diane Abbott on BBC Sounds. | Listen to James Naughtie's interview with Diane Abbott on BBC Sounds. |