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Lib Dems reject debate on blocking trans women from diversity quotas Lib Dems reject debate on blocking trans women from diversity quotas
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Zoe Hollowood wanted a debate and vote on the issueZoe Hollowood wanted a debate and vote on the issue
A bid to remove trans women from Liberal Democrat diversity quotas has been blocked by party members at their annual conference.A bid to remove trans women from Liberal Democrat diversity quotas has been blocked by party members at their annual conference.
Dr Zoe Hollowood, a member of campaign group Liberal Democrat Voice for Women, wanted a debate - and then a binding vote - on updating party policy in light of the Supreme Court ruling that a woman should be defined by biological sex.Dr Zoe Hollowood, a member of campaign group Liberal Democrat Voice for Women, wanted a debate - and then a binding vote - on updating party policy in light of the Supreme Court ruling that a woman should be defined by biological sex.
But Lucas North, treasurer of LGBT+ Liberal Democrats, argued that the debate was a "sham" and urged conference-goers to "reject the idea that trans identities are up for debate".But Lucas North, treasurer of LGBT+ Liberal Democrats, argued that the debate was a "sham" and urged conference-goers to "reject the idea that trans identities are up for debate".
His call was supported by two-to-one in a vote in the Bournemouth conference centre hall. The call was supported by two-to-one in a vote in the Bournemouth conference centre hall.
The Liberal Democrat MPs in the hall all left as the issue was raised, so did not vote in the ballot, which a party spokeswoman said was because they had to attend their daily morning meeting.The Liberal Democrat MPs in the hall all left as the issue was raised, so did not vote in the ballot, which a party spokeswoman said was because they had to attend their daily morning meeting.
Dr Hollowood's motion set out how women are underrepresented in positions across the Liberal Democrats as an organisation and positive action through diversity quotas remained necessary.Dr Hollowood's motion set out how women are underrepresented in positions across the Liberal Democrats as an organisation and positive action through diversity quotas remained necessary.
She argued trans women should not be included in diversity quotas for women as they are biological men and self-identification is not recognised by the law.She argued trans women should not be included in diversity quotas for women as they are biological men and self-identification is not recognised by the law.
The motion stated: "Returning males into vacancies expressly reserved for females would be unlawful."The motion stated: "Returning males into vacancies expressly reserved for females would be unlawful."
However, Mr North successfully saw the motion ditched after a plea for the membership "not to platform transphobic views". However, North successfully saw the motion ditched after a plea for the membership "not to platform transphobic views".
"The motion in front of us is a sham," they said."The motion in front of us is a sham," they said.
"It misrepresents the legal position, it runs contrary to our values, it seeks to put us at odds with our longstanding support for LGBT+ people.""It misrepresents the legal position, it runs contrary to our values, it seeks to put us at odds with our longstanding support for LGBT+ people."
Although Mr North said members "could simply vote this down", they suggested ditching the motion entirely was more appropriate so conference was not "used to legitimise bigotry in the name of a small and extremist faction". Although North said members "could simply vote this down", they suggested ditching the motion entirely was more appropriate so conference was not "used to legitimise bigotry in the name of a small and extremist faction".
Opposing Mr North's move to ditch her debate, Dr Hollowood urged members to "please vote against this suppression" and called on those who disagreed to argue their case. Opposing North's move to ditch her debate, Dr Hollowood urged members to "please vote against this suppression" and called on those who disagreed to argue their case.
"We must stop telling people it's unsafe to hear views they disagree with - that excuse opens the door to censorship, violence and tyranny"."We must stop telling people it's unsafe to hear views they disagree with - that excuse opens the door to censorship, violence and tyranny".
Claiming that free speech was "under pressure" in the UK, Dr Hollowood suggested that was linked to the recent arrest of comedy writer and outspoken critic of the trans rights movement, Graham Linehan.Claiming that free speech was "under pressure" in the UK, Dr Hollowood suggested that was linked to the recent arrest of comedy writer and outspoken critic of the trans rights movement, Graham Linehan.
There were shouts and groans from the conference audience as Dr Hollowood said Mr Linehan had been arrested "over Tweets", rather than for inciting violence, and had to be told to "settle down" by the conference chair.There were shouts and groans from the conference audience as Dr Hollowood said Mr Linehan had been arrested "over Tweets", rather than for inciting violence, and had to be told to "settle down" by the conference chair.
There was already a separate quota for trans identities, Dr Hollowood pointed out, as she urged members to "show we care about the law, we care about equalities, we care about women's rights, and we care about free speech".There was already a separate quota for trans identities, Dr Hollowood pointed out, as she urged members to "show we care about the law, we care about equalities, we care about women's rights, and we care about free speech".
Asked later about why the motion had been removed from the agenda, the party's home affairs spokeswoman Lisa Smart told reporters: "Party members will do what party members will do."Asked later about why the motion had been removed from the agenda, the party's home affairs spokeswoman Lisa Smart told reporters: "Party members will do what party members will do."
Pushed further, she added: "You will have to ask the people who put down the procedural motion."Pushed further, she added: "You will have to ask the people who put down the procedural motion."
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