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Gordon Brown will seek to devolve power away from central government if he becomes prime minister, he has told the BBC in an interview.Gordon Brown will seek to devolve power away from central government if he becomes prime minister, he has told the BBC in an interview.
The "Bank of England independence" model, devolving policy from ministers, would let those "better able to manage, just get on with it", he said.The "Bank of England independence" model, devolving policy from ministers, would let those "better able to manage, just get on with it", he said.
Earlier, it was revealed Mr Brown would consider giving day-to-day control of the NHS to an independent board.Earlier, it was revealed Mr Brown would consider giving day-to-day control of the NHS to an independent board.
On Tony Blair, he said he must "make his own decisions" while still PM.On Tony Blair, he said he must "make his own decisions" while still PM.
You show that you are not anxious to hold on to powers that should be better administered or better dealt with by other people Gordon Brown You show that you are not anxious to hold on to powers that should be better administered or better dealt with by other people Gordon Brown href="/1/hi/uk_politics/5374994.stm" class="">Blunkett warning to Labour
Mr Brown was interviewed by Jon Sopel for BBC One's Politics Show, which will be screened on Sunday.Mr Brown was interviewed by Jon Sopel for BBC One's Politics Show, which will be screened on Sunday.
In the case of the Bank of England, Mr Brown, as chancellor, made the institution responsible for interest rates.In the case of the Bank of England, Mr Brown, as chancellor, made the institution responsible for interest rates.
"The model of Bank of England independence offers us a way forward, because you give up power and you show that you are not anxious to hold on to powers that should be better administered or better dealt with by other people," he said."The model of Bank of England independence offers us a way forward, because you give up power and you show that you are not anxious to hold on to powers that should be better administered or better dealt with by other people," he said.
"At the same time, you make this distinction which governments, perhaps politicians, have been reluctant to do, between setting a general policy guideline and letting people who are better able to manage just get on with it.""At the same time, you make this distinction which governments, perhaps politicians, have been reluctant to do, between setting a general policy guideline and letting people who are better able to manage just get on with it."
'Great leader''Great leader'
Speaking about Mr Blair, Mr Brown said there was "undoubtedly uncertainty" about his position.Speaking about Mr Blair, Mr Brown said there was "undoubtedly uncertainty" about his position.
My position has always been that Tony Blair should be free to make his own decisions and I think that's where the position is at the moment Gordon BrownMy position has always been that Tony Blair should be free to make his own decisions and I think that's where the position is at the moment Gordon Brown
"Look, you've been dealing with a unique situation - a prime minister that says that he's not going to stand at the next general election as a leader of his party."Look, you've been dealing with a unique situation - a prime minister that says that he's not going to stand at the next general election as a leader of his party.
"But my position has always been that Tony Blair should be free to make his own decisions and I think that's where the position is at the moment.""But my position has always been that Tony Blair should be free to make his own decisions and I think that's where the position is at the moment."
He paid tribute to Mr Blair as "a great prime minister" and "a great leader of the Labour Party".He paid tribute to Mr Blair as "a great prime minister" and "a great leader of the Labour Party".
The chancellor once again confirmed that then-junior defence minister Tom Watson - a staunch Brownite - had been to deliver a present for Mr Brown's baby a day before he had signed a letter calling for Mr Blair to resign.The chancellor once again confirmed that then-junior defence minister Tom Watson - a staunch Brownite - had been to deliver a present for Mr Brown's baby a day before he had signed a letter calling for Mr Blair to resign.
Mr Brown told the BBC he "knew nothing of that letter" and criticised Mr Watson for signing it.Mr Brown told the BBC he "knew nothing of that letter" and criticised Mr Watson for signing it.
"I think it was a mistake," Mr Brown said."I think it was a mistake," Mr Brown said.
"He probably, reflecting on it, may wish to change his mind but the important thing... is that Tony Blair should be free to make his own decisions.""He probably, reflecting on it, may wish to change his mind but the important thing... is that Tony Blair should be free to make his own decisions."
Asked about the balance in relations with the US, Mr Brown denied the UK was "scared to say boo".Asked about the balance in relations with the US, Mr Brown denied the UK was "scared to say boo".
"I don't think that is true, of course, because I've just mentioned Guantanamo Bay where we've been pretty outspoken and of course now President Bush has agreed that Guantanamo Bay should over time be closed," Mr Brown said."I don't think that is true, of course, because I've just mentioned Guantanamo Bay where we've been pretty outspoken and of course now President Bush has agreed that Guantanamo Bay should over time be closed," Mr Brown said.
"We've also been pretty clear about what happened in the initial stages of the reconstruction of Iraq.""We've also been pretty clear about what happened in the initial stages of the reconstruction of Iraq."
  • The Politics Show will be shown on BBC One on Sunday at 1200 BST.
  • The Politics Show will be shown on BBC One on Sunday at 1200 BST.