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Age law 'threat to minimum wage' Age law 'threat to minimum wage'
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Laws being introduced on Sunday, which ban age discrimination at work, could endanger the minimum wage system, a business group has warned.Laws being introduced on Sunday, which ban age discrimination at work, could endanger the minimum wage system, a business group has warned.
Workers aged under 21 can currently be paid less than their older colleagues.Workers aged under 21 can currently be paid less than their older colleagues.
But the British Chamber of Commerce (BCC) said this may be considered discriminatory and be open to legal challenge under the new legislation.But the British Chamber of Commerce (BCC) said this may be considered discriminatory and be open to legal challenge under the new legislation.
Meanwhile, a survey claimed firms are confused by the laws, with two out of five saying they fear breaching them. If wages for under-21s were upped as a result, firms may be less likely to hire younger people, the BCC said.
Meanwhile, a survey claimed that firms are confused by the laws, with two out of five saying they fear breaching them.
The study of 150 organisations, employing about half a million workers, found that many were keeping practices which could foul of the regulations.The study of 150 organisations, employing about half a million workers, found that many were keeping practices which could foul of the regulations.
It would be bad for the country if we didn't try and change the culture Alastair DarlingTrade and Industry Secretary Quick guide: Age DiscriminationIt would be bad for the country if we didn't try and change the culture Alastair DarlingTrade and Industry Secretary Quick guide: Age Discrimination
While not illegal, firms asking for a candidates' date of birth on application forms was not "in line with the spirit of the legislation and opens employers up to be challenged," said Audrey Williams, spokeswoman for law firm Eversheds, which carried out the survey.While not illegal, firms asking for a candidates' date of birth on application forms was not "in line with the spirit of the legislation and opens employers up to be challenged," said Audrey Williams, spokeswoman for law firm Eversheds, which carried out the survey.
The situation was "worrying", she added.The situation was "worrying", she added.
'Wrong to discriminate''Wrong to discriminate'
Trade and Industry Secretary, Alastair Darling said it would take time before employers and workers became fully aware of the new legislation, Trade and Industry Secretary Alastair Darling said it would take time before employers and workers became fully aware of the new legislation.
"It's similar to when legislation against race or sex discrimination was introduced - people gradually become aware of it," he told BBC One's Breakfast."It's similar to when legislation against race or sex discrimination was introduced - people gradually become aware of it," he told BBC One's Breakfast.
The government's own minimum wage law discriminates against people on the grounds of age. They are in a pickle Olly Scott, BCC spokesmanThe government's own minimum wage law discriminates against people on the grounds of age. They are in a pickle Olly Scott, BCC spokesman
"In just fifteen years time, nearly one in three of every worker will be over the age of fifty."In just fifteen years time, nearly one in three of every worker will be over the age of fifty.
"It's quite wrong to discriminate against an individual as a matter of principle on the grounds of age, but it'd also be bad for the country if we didn't try and change the culture.""It's quite wrong to discriminate against an individual as a matter of principle on the grounds of age, but it'd also be bad for the country if we didn't try and change the culture."
On the same day as the age legislation comes in, the minimum wage for people over 21 will rise by 35p to £5.35 an hour.On the same day as the age legislation comes in, the minimum wage for people over 21 will rise by 35p to £5.35 an hour.
The rate for workers aged 18-21 will rise by 20p to £4.45 an hour, while workers aged 16 to 17 will get a 30p rise to £3.30 an hour.The rate for workers aged 18-21 will rise by 20p to £4.45 an hour, while workers aged 16 to 17 will get a 30p rise to £3.30 an hour.
But if firms had to pay under-21s more, job losses would follow, the BCC argued.But if firms had to pay under-21s more, job losses would follow, the BCC argued.
"The government's own minimum wage law discriminates against people on the grounds of age," Olly Scott, BCC spokesman told BBC News."The government's own minimum wage law discriminates against people on the grounds of age," Olly Scott, BCC spokesman told BBC News.
"They are in a pickle. If this were the subject of a legal challenge, based on the new age law, the government may put the minimum wage rates of the under-21s up to the same level as the over-21s.""They are in a pickle. If this were the subject of a legal challenge, based on the new age law, the government may put the minimum wage rates of the under-21s up to the same level as the over-21s."
Legal challengeLegal challenge
The UK is having to address when people should retireThe UK is having to address when people should retire
The BCC also warned that if this were to happen, firms would be less likely to hire young people.The BCC also warned that if this were to happen, firms would be less likely to hire young people.
According to The Age Employment Network (TAEN), a charity dedicated to improving the employment prospects of older workers, a legal challenge to minimum wage rules could be on the cards.According to The Age Employment Network (TAEN), a charity dedicated to improving the employment prospects of older workers, a legal challenge to minimum wage rules could be on the cards.
"I am sure it (minimum wage law) could be challenged," Patrick Grattan, TAEN chief executive, told BBC News."I am sure it (minimum wage law) could be challenged," Patrick Grattan, TAEN chief executive, told BBC News.
"It could be considered unfair to pay someone a different wage based on their age rather than someone being more competent it is the assumption that they are open to pay more.""It could be considered unfair to pay someone a different wage based on their age rather than someone being more competent it is the assumption that they are open to pay more."
But Mr Grattan added that the government may have a viable defence against any legal challenge.But Mr Grattan added that the government may have a viable defence against any legal challenge.
"The government may be able to defend the law on the grounds that the different rates of minimum wage for under-21s are in place to encourage more younger people to stay on in education rather than find a job," he said."The government may be able to defend the law on the grounds that the different rates of minimum wage for under-21s are in place to encourage more younger people to stay on in education rather than find a job," he said.
New lawNew law
The banning of age discrimination from 1 October has been described as the biggest shake-up of workplace laws for 30 years.The banning of age discrimination from 1 October has been described as the biggest shake-up of workplace laws for 30 years.
It will be unlawful to discriminate against workers under the age of 65 on the grounds of age.It will be unlawful to discriminate against workers under the age of 65 on the grounds of age.
Making someone redundant or barring workers from promotion because they are too old - or too young - will be against the law.Making someone redundant or barring workers from promotion because they are too old - or too young - will be against the law.
As they approach 65, workers will have to be given six months' notice that their employer wants them to give up their job and retire.As they approach 65, workers will have to be given six months' notice that their employer wants them to give up their job and retire.